Found Deceased TX - Michael Chambers, 70, Hunt County, 10 March 2017 *found deceased 2023* #8

I see that another season of "Unsolved Mysteries" is coming out next week. If the show had an episode on Michael Chambers, it would be the #1 show on Netflix for a year. :(

We need "Unsolved Mysteries" or some high profile true crime show to shed some light onto this case. It's getting ridiculous.
 
i always thought that perhaps he was taken by boat downstream to the crematorium and cremated. However when his remains were found that nixed that theory. But perhaps his remains were moved to the new location where they were found?
 
After his remains were found I felt like the remains and the bike could have been taken by boat close to where they were found and left there. Someone else took the phone toward the bridge at a snails pace...
I think I agree with this but what was the "snails pace"? How did it get there? This is the most confusing part of the case, in my opinion, although there are many confusing parts to choose from.
 
I am not sure why LE and others haven’t mentioned this about the cell phone, but just because his phone was traveling/pinging at 4.2 mph the 17 miles from his home to the 2 mile bridge, doesn’t mean that he and his phone were together. Let me repeat this, it does’t mean that Michael Chambers and his phone were together. ONLY HIS PHONE WAS TRAVELING AT 4.2 MPH TO THE 2 MILE BRIDGE. In addition, it was only pings of the phone, so that doesn’t mean his phone was on a bike, walking or jogging.

There is no way a 70 year old man with bad knees could ride a bike 17 miles on hilly, twisty, and winding roads without a shoulder, and riding at only 4.2 mph (which isn’t really possible) (4.2 mph is a brisk walking pace for someone in decent shape), and not a single person saw him for that whole 17 miles. Plus the bridge is busy and there were construction workers there.

I think 2 people were involved. I think he was killed in the workshop that afternoon and he was put in a vehicle, and the killer rode a bike, jogged or walked with Michael’s cell phone to the 2 mile bridge (based on the pings, and to make it look like a suicide) where they disposed of the bike and cell phone. The other person who drove to the 2 mile bridge was waiting there in a vehicle which had Michael’s body in it and picked up the other person and they disposed of his body in the swampy area a couple miles away.

His last phone ping was at 2:30 on the 2 mile bridge, but that only means that his cell phone was either powered off or thrown off the bridge at that time, but it doesn’t mean that he was with the phone. His body was put in the back of a vehicle and taken to the place where he was later found in the swampy area a few miles north of the 2 mile bridge.
 
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I agree with everything you have here. I think you hit the nail on the head. All we know is what the phone data show. The previous sheriff assumed that the phone was on Mike Chambers's body. That was a major flaw in the investigation because he didn't know that but he made statements to the public that made it seem like Chambers had his phone on his person.

I'm still perplexed by how the phone made it into the water but I've always wondered if it was possible that someone walked to the bridge from the house. That seems like way too long and people can see you! I guess it's possible that someone walked across the bridge to throw in the phone but I don't know where they started the walk. I see two possibilities: First, this crime was so well planned out that the perpetrators fooled law enforcement. Second, the crime was not well planned out but law enforcement bungled the investigation at every turn. I guess the third option is that both are true; I just don't know. Most days, I tend to side with the first possibility because of the placement of the bike. That shows premeditation (make it look like he rode his bike!). All I know is that this had to have been committed by at least two people and people talk. There is a 0.0% chance that the people who did this never said anything to any other person. There has to be a soft spot or weakness that law enforcement can exploit to their advantage (solving the case).

I keep coming back to the logical principle called Occam's Razor. It says that when you are looking for an explanation for something, most often it is the simplest explanation. The simplest explanation in this case -- also backed up by the evidence -- was that this man was murdered. For some reason, the previous sheriff made every effort to make this case more complicated and crazy than it needed to be. Why, I have no idea (I will leave that to the locals).
 
If Hunt County is looking for a day to make an arrest in the Mike Chambers case but are afraid to because of all the media attention and possible embarrassment because of what it might mean for the county, this Tuesday would make an excellent day since everyone will be focused on something else. Just saying . . .
 
It's been 2 years since Michael Chambers's body was found. I understand that its forensic value was probably small but how has there never been an arrest? We are on the 8th volume of comments on this website regarding this case. Interest is still super high. Is this case going to go cold? The only comment we ever get from law enforcement is that they are "still investigating." Were the perpetrators that smart? I doubt it. Are the facts so embarrassing to Hunt County that they don't want to proceed? I am generally not a conspiracy theorist but this is insane how little we know about this case and why there has never been an arrest. Is this case still talked about in Hunt County?
 
I am amending the famous quote ("the wheels of justice grind slowly") to "the wheels of justice grind slowly except if you commit murder in Quinlan, TX, where the wheels of justice will come to a complete stop if solving the murder makes the county look bad." How's that for a change?
 
Man, it's been some time since I've visited this case. Just watched the whole episode of this case on Investigation Discovery's show, "Disappeared." (S9:E12 - 2018)


Considering that the show aired in 2018, and we have had new developments since then, here are some of my key takeaways :

- Michael was very much a doting husband. Opened the garage door for his wife (BC) when she would return home, would frequently meet her outside to carry her purse for her, frequently cooked for her, was at her beck & call, etc.

- LE learned through the course of the investigation that BC had an affair. BC said that the affair ended approximately 5 months before Michael's disappearance. She also said that she believed Michael knew about the affair but never confronted her about it. (the affair participant has a strong alibi and was fully cleared by LE)

- One of Michael's adopted sons (JC) had a strained relationship with the rest of the family before and after MC's disappearance. Family finger-pointing and infighting reach a fever pitch, accusing each other of being involved in MC's disappearance. JC had an especially strained relationship with MC, with MC essentially cutting JC off from the family money spigots approximately 6 months before MC's disappearance.

- MC's Son-in-Law came forward to LE a couple of months after MC's disappearance, reciting what MC had allegedly told him when they were both watching an investigative
TV show: "A person could easily disappear and make it look like an accident - and nobody would ever find them! It'd be very easy to do."

- Day of MC's disappearance, MC visited a local Walmart (around 11 am) to purchase personal items that his wife had requested. This was confirmed with Walmart cameras, and MC did not appear to be in distress whatsoever. (the items were found at their home, in a spot that he would normally put them for her)

- After MC left Walmart, LE tried to track MC's vehicle back to his residence along his usual route, but could not locate his vehicle in any of the business cameras along the way.

- LE brings in a Cell Phone Expert to better analyze MC's phone pings. They discovered that MC's phone had visited the area of the bridge "in the morning" (LE did not give a concrete time for this), and data from the ping purported to show that MC's phone loitered in an area just past the bridge for 10-15 mins, then he returned home.

- LE says that the pings from where MC loitered were near a residence that he shared previously with his wife, BC.

- LE says the phone returned near the area and permanently ceased sending/receiving signals around 2:30 pm. LE says that - with the expert's data - it took over three hours to reach the bridge from his residence and that it averaged out to a pace of 4.2 MPH.
(The show seems to have given somewhat contradictory info: Early in the episode, the sheriff pings MC's phone the same night MC went missing while they were canvassing MC's property. That ping showed the most recent activity to be at 5:50 pm in the area/vicinity of the bridge.)

- LE concludes that 4.2 MPH is too fast to walk, and far too slow to drive, so they immediately honed in on the idea of a bicycle being used. (I find this somewhat erroneous; generally even beginner cyclists, at a leisurely pace, average about 10 MPH). This is when LE came to find that MC's bicycle was missing from his usual spot in the garage.

- LE brings in an expert to review the blood splatter in the garage. The expert finds that the blood belongs to MC. The professional opinion of the expert was that the blood was staged and was likely splattered with the help of a container such as a vial. The expert also noted that the particular color of the blood indicated a possible presence of an anticoagulant.


The single most important thing that I took away from the episode was this quote from LE :
"[...] some things had happened that we believe had caused MC to commit suicide. However, at this time, we are not at liberty to discuss, pending an ongoing investigation.”

Obviously here, LE is privy to information we simply do not have access to. Perhaps MC recently had a terminal prognosis that he kept from his family. Unfortunately, LE has decidedly kept this info close to the chest. Either way, Michael Chambers' life had appeared to be especially tumultuous in the months leading up to his disappearance.

We need to find out how geographically accurate the expert was able to triangulate the phone pings. Michael's loitering visit to the area just past the bridge lines up with where we know his body was ultimately found.


Personally, I was a fervent supporter of the idea that this was foul play, but after watching the episode, I can begin to understand why LE has stuck with the suicide story. Just seems like Michael had been dealt a sh*tty hand, and I could see him wanting a way out.

There are still plenty of variables at play, but I'm still holding on for hope that the autopsy yielded useful information and that, hopefully, the phone will be recovered someday.


 
I appreciate the great post, outlining your thoughts and making some good points. I still strongly feel this was foul play, my opinion. I HOPE this case can be solved this year. Many of us have been faithful to Mr. Chambers and the family that does love him.
 
Man, it's been some time since I've visited this case. Just watched the whole episode of this case on Investigation Discovery's show, "Disappeared." (S9:E12 - 2018)


Considering that the show aired in 2018, and we have had new developments since then, here are some of my key takeaways :

- Michael was very much a doting husband. Opened the garage door for his wife (BC) when she would return home, would frequently meet her outside to carry her purse for her, frequently cooked for her, was at her beck & call, etc.

- LE learned through the course of the investigation that BC had an affair. BC said that the affair ended approximately 5 months before Michael's disappearance. She also said that she believed Michael knew about the affair but never confronted her about it. (the affair participant has a strong alibi and was fully cleared by LE)

- One of Michael's adopted sons (JC) had a strained relationship with the rest of the family before and after MC's disappearance. Family finger-pointing and infighting reach a fever pitch, accusing each other of being involved in MC's disappearance. JC had an especially strained relationship with MC, with MC essentially cutting JC off from the family money spigots approximately 6 months before MC's disappearance.

- MC's Son-in-Law came forward to LE a couple of months after MC's disappearance, reciting what MC had allegedly told him when they were both watching an investigative
TV show: "A person could easily disappear and make it look like an accident - and nobody would ever find them! It'd be very easy to do."

- Day of MC's disappearance, MC visited a local Walmart (around 11 am) to purchase personal items that his wife had requested. This was confirmed with Walmart cameras, and MC did not appear to be in distress whatsoever. (the items were found at their home, in a spot that he would normally put them for her)

- After MC left Walmart, LE tried to track MC's vehicle back to his residence along his usual route, but could not locate his vehicle in any of the business cameras along the way.

- LE brings in a Cell Phone Expert to better analyze MC's phone pings. They discovered that MC's phone had visited the area of the bridge "in the morning" (LE did not give a concrete time for this), and data from the ping purported to show that MC's phone loitered in an area just past the bridge for 10-15 mins, then he returned home.

- LE says that the pings from where MC loitered were near a residence that he shared previously with his wife, BC.

- LE says the phone returned near the area and permanently ceased sending/receiving signals around 2:30 pm. LE says that - with the expert's data - it took over three hours to reach the bridge from his residence and that it averaged out to a pace of 4.2 MPH.
(The show seems to have given somewhat contradictory info: Early in the episode, the sheriff pings MC's phone the same night MC went missing while they were canvassing MC's property. That ping showed the most recent activity to be at 5:50 pm in the area/vicinity of the bridge.)

- LE concludes that 4.2 MPH is too fast to walk, and far too slow to drive, so they immediately honed in on the idea of a bicycle being used. (I find this somewhat erroneous; generally even beginner cyclists, at a leisurely pace, average about 10 MPH). This is when LE came to find that MC's bicycle was missing from his usual spot in the garage.

- LE brings in an expert to review the blood splatter in the garage. The expert finds that the blood belongs to MC. The professional opinion of the expert was that the blood was staged and was likely splattered with the help of a container such as a vial. The expert also noted that the particular color of the blood indicated a possible presence of an anticoagulant.


The single most important thing that I took away from the episode was this quote from LE :


Obviously here, LE is privy to information we simply do not have access to. Perhaps MC recently had a terminal prognosis that he kept from his family. Unfortunately, LE has decidedly kept this info close to the chest. Either way, Michael Chambers' life had appeared to be especially tumultuous in the months leading up to his disappearance.

We need to find out how geographically accurate the expert was able to triangulate the phone pings. Michael's loitering visit to the area just past the bridge lines up with where we know his body was ultimately found.


Personally, I was a fervent supporter of the idea that this was foul play, but after watching the episode, I can begin to understand why LE has stuck with the suicide story. Just seems like Michael had been dealt a sh*tty hand, and I could see him wanting a way out.

There are still plenty of variables at play, but I'm still holding on for hope that the autopsy yielded useful information and that, hopefully, the phone will be recovered someday.
Thank you for this nice summary. I appreciate the key takeaways and the Disappeared episode is what started my interest in the Michael Chambers case but, in my opinion, there are some serious flaws with how that TV show framed this case and made people think about the evidence.
1. The blood in the workshop: The way LE talked about the blood makes it sound like it was "planted." You noted that "the professional opinion of the expert was that the blood was staged and was likely splattered with the help of a container." Fair enough. The problem with that theory is twofold. First, there is also a bloody dowel. Why would you need to also plant a bloody dowel? Second, if you are planning on dying by suicide, I don't understand the need to plant blood evidence. For what reason? If Mike Chambers was planning on dying by suicide, he planted the blood evidence, then went on a multi-hour bike ride at a slow pace where many people could see him? He had no idea that no one would see him on the bike ride. And why would you plant a bloody dowel? PI Klein also said that there is a missing tarp from the workshop. I think that PI Klein's theory of the evidence is the most persuasive: Mike Chambers was probably incapacitated in the workshop and he bled out of his ear while two people transported his body on that tarp to the garage door. I tend to think that the blood drops are because a perfectly planned murder was not so perfect and I think the bloody dowel was simply forgotten in the clean-up and effort to get the heck out of there.
2. The 4.2mph evidence: I don't have a ton of confidence in what LE is telling us with regard to the speed and the route that the phone took. The public does not know whether that is a sustained 4.2mph or whether it is some sort of average. I am not even sure if LE (or the public) know the route this phone took. Presumably, LE does have some evidence of a possible route because Sheriff Meeks said that the last ping of the phone was in the middle of the 2-Mile Bridge.
3. Foul Play vs. Suicide: After watching the Disappeared episode, I too thought that it sure sounded like death by suicide. Once I started studying it more, however, that theory makes zero sense and foul play makes perfect sense. I see a 0.0% chance that Mike Chambers made it from his home to his East Tawakoni resting place (approximately 20 miles) without anyone seeing him. LE seems to say that no one saw him on his bike (plus, no one has ever gone public saying that they saw him on that day). The statement from Sheriff Meeks that did make my blood boil was the statement to the effect that there were some things in MC's life that lead Sheriff Meeks to believe that MC committed suicide. I call BS on that because I question the source of that information. Where did it come from?
4. Michael's loitering visit to the area earlier: I tend to think that this is a really important piece of evidence that might explain the whole day. Why was MC over on the east side of Lake Tawakoni earlier that morning (before or after WalMart? . . .we are not sure)? If someone was looking to do him harm, it might make sense to try to lure him over there so that the cell phone evidence suggests that MC was near that location earlier . . .planting the thought that he was thinking about committing suicide then but got the guts to do it only later. Is there text evidence or call history evidence that might provide a hint or clue here? Perhaps but the public is not privy to this information. Sheriff Meeks seemed to be intentionally coy about the specifics to this trip to the other side of Lake Tawakoni. I just don't know why or what it all means.

Thanks again for your thoughts on the Disappeared episode and state of the evidence. I think the Disappeared episode is a great jumping off point for discussion but I don't see it as the gospel truth for everything in the case.
 

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