TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022 #2

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Maybe the first card was old, expired or had zero balance on it. This is when one says, I am going to grab another one from my car. JMO.
I think so, yes.
 
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It’s super weird because as that warrant said she left her Mastercard with her name there when she said she was going to get another card from her vehicle. And also left them with her info on a patient sheet and pictures they took of her face! The affidavit is dated by the sheriffs office about 3 weeks after the Botox. I wonder what steps the med spa took to reach her before reporting it to law enforcement.

Reminds me of some restaurants that would tack up bad checks they’d been passed at the cash register, I’m picturing a med spa tacking up a picture of her face at the front desk.


(Botox story with arrest warrant Fugitive Kaitlin Armstrong previously charged with larceny after not paying for $650 Botox procedure
its also weird that if LE had her name and address, they didn't just rock up and arrest her. I wonder whether the card and her ID for the treatment(s) was stolen? This is most bizarre!
 
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its also weird that if LE had her name and address, they didn't just rock up and arrest her. I wonder whether the card and her ID for the treatment(s) was stolen? This is most bizarre!
Austin police do not have enough officers to go chasing after suspects with $650 outstanding warrants for theft of Botox services. It's a very large metropolitan city (twice the size of 20 years ago) with a serious crime problem (murder rate is horrific). <modsnip - political commentary>

How could they charge KA if the ID & credit card used were stolen? Or are you suggesting someone stole hers & committed this theft, making the warrant invalid?

JMOO
 
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Austin police do not have enough officers to go chasing after suspects with $650 outstanding warrants for theft of Botox services. It's a very large metropolitan city (twice the size of 20 years ago) with a serious crime problem (murder rate is horrific). <modsnip - political commentary>

How could they charge hKA if the ID & credit card used were stolen? Or are you suggesting someone stole hers & committed this theft?

JMOO
Yes, is it not a possibility? Perhaps the error was not a mistake in the birth date, perhaps the evidence (eg the photos), showed that it was not KA that had the botox?

I don't understand the process in the US for issuing an arrest warrant and not serving it, or at least the investigating detectived using the time and effort to get a warrant issued without doing some good old fashioned detective work first. Do LE just wait and hope that someone falls under their radar so that the warrant can be served? I would be interested to know whether the beauty salon filed a civil action to recover their money.
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Ah, I see that the spa matched her photos to her driving licence - so id theft not an issue here. Its weird though - why do this?

The birth date is the same on both warrants
 

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Yes, is it not a possibility? Perhaps the error was not a mistake in the birth date, perhaps the evidence (eg the photos), showed that it was not KA that had the botox?

I don't understand the process in the US for issuing an arrest warrant and not serving it, or at least the investigating detectived using the time and effort to get a warrant issued without doing some good old fashioned detective work first. Do LE just wait and hope that someone falls under their radar so that the warrant can be served? I would be interested to know whether the beauty salon filed a civil action to recover their money.
They should have pursued a civil action or used a debt collector. Theft like this - while very wrong - is a cost of doing business. Get payment upfront before services are rendered! It's costly to pursue deadbeats.

After they failed to get her to pay that day (surely they called her?) or respond to mailed bills (surely they mailed her?), the most likely outcome was a ding to KA's credit.

Issuance of a warrant (and an invalid one at that!) is odd to me. I wonder how long they tried to collect the debt before seeking her arrest? They had to know the likelihood of arrest was very low (although an interaction with police for a traffic infraction might have triggered it).

JMO
 
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They should have pursued a civil action or used a debt collector. Theft like this - while very wrong - is a cost of doing business. Get payment upfront before services are rendered! It's costly to pursue deadbeats.

After they failed to get her to pay that day (surely they called her?) or respond to mailed bills (surely they mailed her?), the most likely outcome was a ding to KA's credit.

Issuance of a warrant (and an invalid one at that!) is odd to me. I wonder how long they tried to collect the debt before seeking her arrest? They had to know the likelihood of arrest was very low (although an interaction with police for a traffic infraction might have triggered it).

JMO
looking at the arrest warrant (see my previous post) - it looks like it was reported the same month of the treatment (March) and the warrant issued in April. THis is really odd - why was the arrest warrant invalid? I know that it has been reported that there was an error in the date of birth, but this is not true (if it is then the AW for murder is invalid too).
 
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looking at the arrest warrant (see my previous post) - it looks like it was reported the same month of the treatment (March) and the warrant issued in April. THis is really odd - why was the arrest warrant invalid? I know that it has been reported that there was an error in the date of birth, but this is not true (if it is then the AW for murder is invalid too).
What source says her DOB was correct on the warrant? I haven't seen that.
 
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looking at the arrest warrant (see my previous post) - it looks like it was reported the same month of the treatment (March) and the warrant issued in April. THis is really odd - why was the arrest warrant invalid? I know that it has been reported that there was an error in the date of birth, but this is not true (if it is then the AW for murder is invalid too).
Her DOB was entered wrong in the police database. So yes, the arrest warrant was valid. Sorry for my oversight.

The correct debate becomes, why did APD release her so quickly due to their incorrect database info (if that's even true?). I don't know police procedure in such an event. APD sayS they couldn't hold her while others (PI & other LE) have said they could have.

They didn't though and it's too late to correct that if indeed it is the main reason she is now free.

<modsnip - implicating someone who is not a named suspect/POI>


MOO
 
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@Nikynoo @WingsOverTX


“Armstrong was mistakenly released from custody on [a] misdemeanor warrant because her date of birth in our report management system did not match the date of birth on the warrant,” [APD Detective RS] said.

As mentioned previously, the issue resulted from a date-of-birth miskey in law enforcement’s report management system not as a result of an error on the warrant or erroneous or fraudulent identification on KA’s part.
 
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The following article contains a new interview with CS.

So he’s really just trying to survive this. Hasn’t cycled in 6 weeks, just going to therapy, shell-shocked over the murder, the loss of KA and MW, his career and sponsors.

Hard to believe the havoc KA wreaked for him, Mo and her family, her sister, father, not to mention herself. What on earth could she have been thinking of?
 
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Do LE just wait and hope that someone falls under their radar so that the warrant can be served?
That depends on the level of the crime. The police can be very active in serving warrants for serious crimes.

For less serious crimes, the police can be very passive in serving arrest warrants. Usually, passive warrants get served in two ways:

- As @Sundog mentioned, the individual is stopped for a minor traffic offense. They then get arrested after a computer alerts the officer to the warrant.

- The District Attorney and the police coordinate a "warrant round up" where they can make large numbers of arrests for minor warrant.

The warrant round ups can be advertised in advance with billboards advising people they have one last chance to pay say, out standing traffic tickets, "hot checks", and.... botox walk always. In the end, the police would rather people pay than have to arrest people.
 
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The following article contains a new interview with CS.


Interesting that he has never seen the "volatile" side of KA, according to his statements to The Sun in the article posted above.

“Obviously she’s not going to be the same human that I knew.

“I would say she is one of the least volatile people I have ever met and that’s why it’s so absolutely shocking.

“She had sides to her personality that I don’t think she shared with anybody.

“I had no indication of anything like that.”
 
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Interesting that he has never seen the "volatile" side of KA, according to his statements to The Sun in the article posted above.

“Obviously she’s not going to be the same human that I knew.

“I would say she is one of the least volatile people I have ever met and that’s why it’s so absolutely shocking.

“She had sides to her personality that I don’t think she shared with anybody.

“I had no indication of anything like that.”
Yes, it seems odd that he has never seen her "volatile side", and yet he had to change Mo's name in his phone and hide texts to and from her, for fear of being discovered, and had to lie to her about where he was in the hours immediately before the murder. Surely he considered that she may have a volatile side, as he took so many steps to avoid seeing it. JMO
 
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Yes, it seems odd that he has never seen her "volatile side", and yet he had to change Mo's name in his phone and hide texts to and from her, for fear of being discovered, and had to lie to her about where he was in the hours immediately before the murder. Surely he considered that she may have a volatile side, as he took so many steps to avoid seeing it. JMO
I think all people that are flirting/cheating or whatever was going on take those actions regardless of the volatility of their partner.
 
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So he’s really just trying to survive this. Hasn’t cycled in 6 weeks, just going to therapy, shell-shocked over the murder, the loss of KA and MW, his career and sponsors.

Hard to believe the havoc KA wreaked for him, Mo and her family, her sister, father, not to mention herself. What on earth could she have been thinking of?
Comments about nature of relationship with MW notable IMO

“I would like to say that Moriah and I had seen each other at no less than four events in this 2022 and we had a completely platonic relationship and friendship. It’s unfortunate how that has been skewed out to be a salacious aspect to this story when it really wasn’t the case.
“It’s just unfortunate for her memory that it’s been skewed that way.

“I don’t feel like my words are really powerful right now so I don’t feel the need to try to set the record straight. I would tell you that Mo was an intelligent person and she was not under the impression that we were in a romantic relationship.

“If we were in romantic relationship we would have been romantic at these bicycle races that we were seeing each other at, we would have found private space and that was not happening in any way.”
 
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Comments about nature of relationship with MW notable IMO

“I would like to say that Moriah and I had seen each other at no less than four events in this 2022 and we had a completely platonic relationship and friendship. It’s unfortunate how that has been skewed out to be a salacious aspect to this story when it really wasn’t the case.
“It’s just unfortunate for her memory that it’s been skewed that way.

“I don’t feel like my words are really powerful right now so I don’t feel the need to try to set the record straight. I would tell you that Mo was an intelligent person and she was not under the impression that we were in a romantic relationship.

“If we were in romantic relationship we would have been romantic at these bicycle races that we were seeing each other at, we would have found private space and that was not happening in any way.”
If he’s telling the truth, that’s horrendous. She died for a stupid friendship she didn’t really need because he made it look bad to KA by lying.
 
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Comments about nature of relationship with MW notable IMO

<snipped for focus>I would tell you that Mo was an intelligent person and she was not under the impression that we were in a romantic relationship.

That's not the impression that I had after reading the text that MW sent to CS about her confusion regarding seeing him at one of the events. She apparently thought that they were more than just friends, according to her text. And in CS's text response to MW, he didn't set the record straight, but rather he implied that it was poor judgement on his part to have brought KA along to the event in question, and implied that she was there in some capcity other than as his romantic partner.
 
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If he’s telling the truth, that’s horrendous. She died for a stupid friendship she didn’t really need because he made it look bad to KA by lying.

DBM
 
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