TX - Moriah Wilson, 25, prized cyclist, fatally shot before race, Austin, May 2022

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  • #521
But couldn’t she have flown beyond NYC after 1-2 weeks there, with a fraudulent passport?
I believe KA would be taking a very high risk, attempting to leave the country using a fraudulent passport, with federal authorities looking for her, but anything is possible. I do believe LE perhaps know where she is and she will be apprehended soon. We know that her father stated in an interview earlier this past week, that he had spoken to her and knew where she was around May 18. We rightly cannot sleuth him, but LE can, and if she has contacted him again, LE may be aware of that call or text, and what was said. I also have a hunch that LE know if she left the country, and if so, when and what her destination was. Clearly, if she is in another country, apprehending her isn't as simple as just walking up to her, slapping cuffs on her and bringing her back. Just because they do not yet have her in custody, that does not mean that LE aren't taking the necessary steps to bring her back very soon to face charges. JMO
 
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  • #522
I would really like to know how it transpired that the couple bough guns in January 2022.
 
  • #523
I believe KA would be taking a very high risk, attempting to leave the country using a fraudulent passport, with federal authorities looking for her, but anything is possible. I do believe LE perhaps know where she is and she will be apprehended soon. We know that her father stated in an interview earlier this past week, that he had spoken to her and knew where she was around May 18. We rightly cannot sleuth him, but LE can, and if she has contacted him again, LE may be aware of that call or text, and what was said. I also have a hunch that LE know if she left the country, and if so, when and what her destination was. Clearly, if she is in another country, apprehending her isn't as simple as just walking up to her, slapping cuffs on her and bringing her back. Just because they do not yet have her in custody, that does not mean that LE isn't taking the necessary steps to bring her back very soon to face charges. JMO
Yes, everything you say makes a lot of sense.
The only doubts I have come from other cases, where it seemed LE were closing in on someone without disclosing details to the public, and were “holding their cards close to the vest”— only to find out later they were clueless. I sure hope that’s not the case here….
 
  • #524
I would really like to know how it transpired that the couple bough guns in January 2022.
That was the month she found out about the affair with MW and was reportedly “shaking with rage”. Maybe she prodded CS into buying them “for protection”.
 
  • #525
That was the month she found out about the affair with MW and was reportedly “shaking with rage”. Maybe she prodded CS into buying them “for protection”.
And he claimed he saw MW for a few weeks in Oct 2021 while he and KA were "on a break," right? So we have 2 opinions as to whether he was cheating then, or it was indeed a break. If it was a "break," were CS and KA still cohabitating? What was the cause of the breakup? Seems "shaking with rage" wouldn't occur if you were having issues and had separated unless she was just furious that he had another bed to run to immediately, which maybe confirmed suspicions KA had that he was already cheating. So "yeah, hon, let's buy GUNS!" Some people have kids when they reconcile. If KA was shaking with rage to her friend about that situation, surely CS had witnessed that kind of rage in her as well. Maybe CS blew it up as, "Mo is crazy. I had no choice. She's stalking me, won't let go. Let's get some guns." But why??
 
  • #526
That was the month she found out about the affair with MW and was reportedly “shaking with rage”. Maybe she prodded CS into buying them “for protection”.
Speaking of the guns, I know that the Sig Sauer that supposedly belonged to KA was test fired, and the shell casings matched those at the scene of the murder, but I have never heard it actually stated that KA's prints were found on the gun. I am sure that had to be checked, but if the prints happened to be wiped, or if she was wearing gloves (though I don't believe she put that level of preplanning into it), how can they know it was she that fired the weapon, and not CS or someone else? I am certainly not implying that MW was murdered by someone else, but find it odd I have never heard that her prints were found on the gun. JMO
 
  • #527
And he claimed he saw MW for a few weeks in Oct 2021 while he and KA were "on a break," right? So we have 2 opinions as to whether he was cheating then, or it was indeed a break. If it was a "break," were CS and KA still cohabitating? What was the cause of the breakup? Seems "shaking with rage" wouldn't occur if you were having issues and had separated unless she was just furious that he had another bed to run to immediately, which maybe confirmed suspicions KA had that he was already cheating. So "yeah, hon, let's buy GUNS!" Some people have kids when they reconcile. If KA was shaking with rage to her friend about that situation, surely CS had witnessed that kind of rage in her as well. Maybe CS blew it up as, "Mo is crazy. I had no choice. She's stalking me, won't let go. Let's get some guns." But why??
Maybe he thought it would appease KA, never dreaming she would actually commit murder? My feeling is that CS preferred MW, and would have loved for KA to be gone, and to have MW be his partner.
 
  • #528
Speaking of the guns, I know that the Sig Sauer that supposedly belonged to KA was test fired, and the shell casings matched those at the scene of the murder, but I have never heard it actually stated that KA's prints were found on the gun. I am sure that had to be checked, but if the prints happened to be wiped, or if she was wearing gloves (though I don't believe she put that level of preplanning into it), how can they know it was she that fired the weapon, and not CS or someone else? I am certainly not implying that MW was murdered by someone else, but find it odd I have never heard that her prints were found on the gun. JMO
No, they seem to be basing everything solely on the ring bell footage of her vehicle, and the bullet casing match to the gun….
 
  • #529
Speaking of the guns, I know that the Sig Sauer that supposedly belonged to KA was test fired, and the shell casings matched those at the scene of the murder, but I have never heard it actually stated that KA's prints were found on the gun. I am sure that had to be checked, but if the prints happened to be wiped, or if she was wearing gloves (though I don't believe she put that level of preplanning into it), how can they know it was she that fired the weapon, and not CS or someone else? I am certainly not implying that MW was murdered by someone else, but find it odd I have never heard that her prints were found on the gun. JMO
I wondered the same thing.

And a question - if you wear gloves while using a gun that has another's prints on it, do the existing prints get smeared, wiped off, damaged? That question applies not only to firing a gun, also. If someone's prints are on an object, like a door knob or steering wheel, if someone else comes along with gloves and uses that same object, does any harm come to the existing prints there?

If that was KA spotted on that street the day before cycling around, too, I think she did do a little pre-planning.
 
  • #530
Speaking of the guns, I know that the Sig Sauer that supposedly belonged to KA was test fired, and the shell casings matched those at the scene of the murder, but I have never heard it actually stated that KA's prints were found on the gun. I am sure that had to be checked, but if the prints happened to be wiped, or if she was wearing gloves (though I don't believe she put that level of preplanning into it), how can they know it was she that fired the weapon, and not CS or someone else? I am certainly not implying that MW was murdered by someone else, but find it odd I have never heard that her prints were found on the gun. JMO

LE has been extremely coy about the details of MW's murder.

The number of wounds has not been released, nor have the results of the ballistics tests.

I find that to be strange.
 
  • #531
Maybe he thought it would appease KA, never dreaming she would actually commit murder? My feeling is that CS preferred MW, and would have loved for KA to be gone, and to have MW be his partner.
RBBM

Why? So he could cheat on her, too or bask in the reflected glow of her winner's spotlight? Neither of these women should have invested any time or effort into this game playing liar.

He is not partnership material. On the track or off.

JMO
 
  • #532
BBM

I doubt that she went to another country, but if she did IMO it would be Canada. She would have to go to JFK or EWR for an international flight outside of LGA's 1,500-mile perimeter rule and she would have been seen on a camera somehow in either of those places or traveling there or at least at security there. Maybe that's just hopeful thinking. I agree with other commenters that there really is no fake ID you can get in a few days and use to travel by air anymore. I flew out of LGA a few weeks ago and they scanned/inspected my ID at security for a hot minute.

I can understand how they lost her trail if she used a bus (literally who pays for an NYC bus? there would be no trail if she just, you know, hopped on) or a cab and paid in cash, but it's frustrating. Wouldn't a cabbie remember her and where she was dropped off, couldn't they track her movements with all the cameras posted around the city?

I always want to think in these fugitive cases that the accused is constantly on the run. If following the White manhunt case has taught me anything, people don't act like the movies and do just hole up in places waiting for time to pass and things to hopefully blow over.
I am proposing a possible theory that would divert LE Authorities. KA got off the plane in Laguardia airport, she remains in the secure area (i do not know if she checked baggage), an accomplice who has already cleared TSA security and is making a connecting flight switch to the 2nd leg flight in secure area of airport, gives KA their boarding pass to 2nd leg, KA boards under accomplices 2nd leg ticket, and KA flies under someone else's name to a different city in US....AMOO
 
  • #533
RBBM

Why? So he could cheat on her, too or bask in the reflected glow of her winner's spotlight? Neither of these women should have invested any time or effort into this game playing liar.

He is not partnership material. On the track or off.

JMO
The more I read, the more I’m beginning to think he was playing both women for fools…
 
  • #534
If KA was shaking with rage to her friend about that situation, surely CS had witnessed that kind of rage in her as well. Maybe CS blew it up as, "Mo is crazy. I had no choice. She's stalking me, won't let go. Let's get some guns." But why??
One particularly creepy part in the affidavit is below, talk about a lack of trust and boundaries and what IMO became a volatile situation.

Strickland told Detective Spitler he has had to change Wilson's name in his phone so Armstrong does not know who he is speaking to, as they continue their relationship. Strickland admitted he had to change Wilson's name in his phone because Armstrong had blocked Wilson's number in Strickland's phone. Strickland also advised he has had to delete text messages on his phone to prevent Armstrong from finding them.
 
  • #535
I’m less convinced that this was a heat-of-the-moment crime of passion. Guns bought in January, with CS’s having never been fired as of May (suggests to me it was her idea. My personal experience has been that men who want guns and buy them take them to ranges and find ways to fire them). The car hasn’t been located, right? She found a way to stash a rather large and visually distinctive car (bike rack on back). I’ve explained in an earlier post that I think her flight itinerary included an arrest test. I think it is entirely possible she spent months smoothing out the details of disappearing after a murder, in a way that was very project-manager-esque but not the way someone with intelligence training might’ve; I don’t think she had fake ID or really thought about the prevalence of residential video cameras. Someone with military or foreign service intel training would have done the murder differently, but she has made it days longer than most would’ve or could’ve.
 
  • #536
The more I read, the more I’m beginning to think he was playing both women for fools…
He reads to me as a fairly typical 25-39yo male with a big-ego athletic pursuit who isn’t dreaming of family and corporate job. He liked having his cake and eating it. He never proposed to his 35yo live-in girlfriend who was administratively organizing his life. He picked up M on his BMW motorcycle and tried to convince the girlfriend after he was dropping off flowers (ever try to motorcycle with a bouquet? ;)).

Maybe this is because I have a circle of friends and history a lot like M’s (different sport but similar profile of academically successful Ivy grads and self-perceived rock stars) - but I know DOZENS of men who lived their 20s like this, multiple women, usually two or three at a time, always a main sacrificing syncophant at the house without a ring and the captivating two or three rotating side pieces. I’m not making excuses for this guy. I am saying he’s not rare. He was just out for his own cake and he never stopped eating it.
 
  • #537
He reads to me as a fairly typical 25-39yo male with a big-ego athletic pursuit who isn’t dreaming of family and corporate job. He liked having his cake and eating it. He never proposed to his 35yo live-in girlfriend who was administratively organizing his life. He picked up M on his BMW motorcycle and tried to convince the girlfriend after he was dropping off flowers (ever try to motorcycle with a bouquet? ;)).

Maybe this is because I have a circle of friends and history a lot like M’s (different sport but similar profile of academically successful Ivy grads and self-perceived rock stars) - but I know DOZENS of men who lived their 20s like this, multiple women, usually two or three at a time, always a main sacrificing syncophant at the house without a ring and the captivating two or three rotating side pieces. I’m not making excuses for this guy. I am saying he’s not rare. He was just out for his own cake and he never stopped eating it.
Yes, true, it’s not uncommon for guys in their 20s and 30s. Actually I myself was in a similar situation with a guy when I was young, and it’s unpleasant to say the least, just don’t see why KA thought that murdering MW was a good idea. To take it to such an extreme when you’re an educated professional woman just baffles me.
 
  • #538
I was thinking of the Jennair Gerardot murder suicide (she stalked and killed her husband’s new girlfriend) and how she texted him right before, “I hope you never find happiness”. Maybe there’s an element of that here because in this case, the man left behind though not a suspect of course is indeed going to pay a reputational price going forward within his sport. But then again, maybe KA actually really thought she could just go home after killing her rival and resume life with CS and could get away with this, which seems nuts? She was a top suspect within a day for the APD.

Wonder if CS was kind of scared of KA. It seems weird he would bother pulling over on his motorcycle to text her when he was so close to home (7 minutes) (from affidavit):

Strickland advised he stopped his motorcycle and sent a text message fiom his phone to Armstrong at 8:36 PM. This text message stated the following:
"Hey! Are you out? I went to drop some flowers for Alison at her sons house up north and my phone died. Heading home unless you have another food suggestion"
Strickland had lied about his whereabouts to Armstrong to hide he was with Wilson throughout the evening.
Strickland advised he rode his motorcycle home and arrived at approximately 8:43 PM. Strickland advised he sent another text message to Armstrong around this time and recalled being nearby his residence when he sent it. Strickland went into the garage and began working on his bicycles to prepare for an upcoming race. While in the garage, Strickland sent another text message to Armstrong at 9:21 PM.
 
  • #539
Speaking of the guns, I know that the Sig Sauer that supposedly belonged to KA was test fired, and the shell casings matched those at the scene of the murder, but I have never heard it actually stated that KA's prints were found on the gun. I am sure that had to be checked, but if the prints happened to be wiped, or if she was wearing gloves (though I don't believe she put that level of preplanning into it), how can they know it was she that fired the weapon, and not CS or someone else? I am certainly not implying that MW was murdered by someone else, but find it odd I have never heard that her prints were found on the gun. JMO

Did it say somewhere in MSM that the shell casings matched those at the scene of the murder? I only remember seeing that LE stated that the gun was a possible match to the one used to murder MW. At the time they put out this statement, I don't think they had the ballistic results back yet, and I haven't seen an updated LE statement since then. Perhaps I missed it.
 
  • #540
I was thinking of the Jennair Gerardot murder suicide (she stalked and killed her husband’s new girlfriend) and how she texted him right before, “I hope you never find happiness”. Maybe there’s an element of that here because in this case, the man left behind though not a suspect of course is indeed going to pay a reputational price going forward within his sport. But then again, maybe KA actually really thought she could just go home after killing her rival and resume life with CS and could get away with this, which seems nuts? She was a top suspect within a day for the APD.

Wonder if CS was kind of scared of KA. It seems weird he would bother pulling over on his motorcycle to text her when he was so close to home (7 minutes) (from affidavit):

Strickland advised he stopped his motorcycle and sent a text message fiom his phone to Armstrong at 8:36 PM. This text message stated the following:
"Hey! Are you out? I went to drop some flowers for Alison at her sons house up north and my phone died. Heading home unless you have another food suggestion"
Strickland had lied about his whereabouts to Armstrong to hide he was with Wilson throughout the evening.
Strickland advised he rode his motorcycle home and arrived at approximately 8:43 PM. Strickland advised he sent another text message to Armstrong around this time and recalled being nearby his residence when he sent it. Strickland went into the garage and began working on his bicycles to prepare for an upcoming race. While in the garage, Strickland sent another text message to Armstrong at 9:21 PM.
YES. Agree. Tremendous parallels between the two cases. One key difference: Jennair Gerardot thought she had nothing left to live for. She’d been with Mark since high school, her career had hit roadblocks, she was in a new state away from friends and support and she saw no path forward; thus the murder-suicide. KA walked through airports with her yoga mat on a few days following a murder. She sees a path forward. What was it? When LE figures out what that path was - this case will resolve.
 
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