TX - Moriah Wilson, Cyclist Fatally Shot Before Race, Austin, #4

[Sundog]

“Strickland had also given Armstrong $450,000 as investment capital. According to the warrants, he asked for it back, but she did not return it before fleeing the state on May 14.”

Texas murder suspect Kaitlin Armstrong had access to $450G, practiced shooting with sister, warrants reveal

Search warrants in the shooting death of pro cyclist Mo Wilson reveal Austin police quickly identified Kaitlin Armstrong as a suspect and other new details.

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I wonder if some of this investment capital

Sorry, this post got away from me before I finished it. I will complete it in another post.

 

[Sundog]

Slippery isn’t it? My bet is that CS will never see that money again.

He could get a lawyer and go to civil court, I think.
Otherwise, I agree that it probably won't be returned to him voluntarily.
Too bad for CS.

 

[Sundog]

I wonder if some of the investment capital that CS gave to KA to invest was used by KA to purchase the real estate property, and that is why she didn't list it on her indigent application.

I wonder if CS and KA intermingled their funds in ways that make it somewhat unclear what belongs to CS and what belongs to KA, and now it will have to be unravelled.

If the real estate investment is in KA's name, but it was CS's funds, then perhaps that is why she didn't list it on her indigent application. Just thinking of possibilities based on how CS and KA managed their money together.

 

[Emi]

I actually DMed a reporter on Twitter today to check if anything happened today and nothing; therefore there was no hearing today and that reporter said that

they constantly jack with court dates

 

[Gypsy Road]

I wonder if some of the investment capital that CS gave to KA to invest was used by KA to purchase the real estate property, and that is why she didn't list it on her indigent application.

I wonder if CS and KA intermingled their funds in ways that make it somewhat unclear what belongs to CS and what belongs to KA, and now it will have to be unravelled.

If the real estate investment is in KA's name, but it was CS's funds, then perhaps that is why she didn't list it on her indigent application. Just thinking of possibilities based on how CS and KA managed their money together.

Could be.

Maybe they invested together, but maybe for tax reasons or other reasons, CS didn’t want his name on the property. Who knows at this juncture. She is still responsible for the mortgage, and the property tax legally and because it’s listed in her name only - it is an asset of hers.

 

[carolmaria]

(respectfully snipped) And now I think, of the two, KA has friends, is, per all accounts, social, has lived with CS for three years. Why misjudge her partner so much? How well does she understand people, their acts and connections? How come she didn’t foresee that his reaction would be strictly that of preserving his own name and his business?

Important questions… IMO if there’s significant dysfunction in family of origin, there might be a type of patterning that occurs where subsequent relationships are viewed through a distorted glass of unconscious need. Lots of therapy, trauma, & codependency work can dislodge it. It happens to all; just a matter of degree. Excuse my psychobabble; working in psych hospitals for eight years did it to me! LOL

That said, to me, the inner workings/perceptions of a person who can actually carry out such a horrifying, heinous act lie outside the realm of mental/emotional health/illness. MOO

 

[Emi]

Defendant Attorney Cause Date & Time Appear at Courthouse Court Floor Type Charge
ARMSTRONG, KAITLIN MARIE COFER, RICHARD C-1-CR-18- 150969 7/20/22 9:30 AM No CC5 4 JDC THEFT OF SERVICE >$100 <$750
ARMSTRONG, KAITLIN MARIE COFER, RICHARD D-1-DC-22- 301129 7/20/22 11:15 AM Appear 403 2 PTR MURDER

Now she has to appear on the murder charge
Source - Criminal Docket Search

 

[RickshawFan]

@Seattle1 called it!

Ummmmm....To set the record straight, I called it way back right when she was picked up in CR at the time of the first US Marshal presser.

 

[Sundog]

Could be.

Maybe they invested together, but maybe for tax reasons or other reasons, CS didn’t want his name on the property. Who knows at this juncture. She is still responsible for the mortgage, and the property tax legally and because it’s listed in her name only - it is an asset of hers.

Do we know whose name is on the title or deed? Because that would be the owner(s). Not necessarily the same as the listed name regarding who applied for the mortgage. Perhaps KA applied for the mortgage with CS as investor and planned to pay the mortgage with rental income. But she may not be the owner of the real estate, or she jointly owns it with CS. We would need to see the title or deed.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Ummmmm....To set the record straight, I called it way back right when she was picked up in CR at the time of the first US Marshal presser.

Kudos
But what are the names on them and how many?
Will this mystery ever be solved?
Lol

 

[Seattle1]

Some curious things about the indigence form filed for KA.

It shows she's self-employed in finance. Does this refer to the $450k she was investing/managing for CS, or was she doing this for other people as well (in which case maybe the SEC will want a piece of her as well). What happened to her being a realtor? Supposedly only makes $500/mo.

Also it shows that she pays $2,350/mo in rent... not mortgage payments. Was she paying CS rent to live in his house?!?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FXjNMa9XgAMMy9a?format=jpg&name=large

IMO, KA completed the Indigence Form basically as a formality.

KA already indicated she desired to hire her own attorney.
She has not indicated that she wants the court to appoint counsel for her, (eliminating employing counsel of her own choosing), and that the most she can reasonably expect to pay to get out of jail is $-o-.

Generally, all defendants that are in custody qualify for court-appointed attorneys, regardless of their financial position. I also think KA is seeking to limit as much public financial disclosure as possible, given she's likely the subject of future wrongful death claims. That will all come out soon enough, but she also won't want to spoon-feed the information.

Given KA represents that she's self-employed, it doesn't follow that she would be able to earn a monthly income such as a defendant that is on paid administrative leave pending the outcome of their charges.

KA reporting monthly income at $500 is indigent by default (less than 125% Fed Guidelines). Effective 3/2/2022, Travis County 125% Federal Poverty Guidelines for HH of 1 = $1,416, and 2 = $1908.

I expect KA desired to have the Indigency Form on file to either seek court costs or request a waiver of the court costs for her case.

I suspect KA is being counseled by her attorneys on what to admit/exclude, and where they will eventually be approved to bill the Court for as private defender service, and not be prohibited from also collecting fees from the defendant. It's a game that I'm sure Cofer & Connelly has played before. MOO

(c) A court may waive payment of all or part of the costs imposed on a defendant if the court determines that the defendant: (1) is indigent or does not have sufficient resources or income to pay all or part of the costs; or (2) was, at the time the offense was committed, a child as defined by Article 45.058(h).

Section 43.091 - Waiver Of Payment Of Fines And Costs For Certain Defendants And For Children, Tex. Code Crim. Proc. art. 43.091 | Casetext Search + Citator

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https://www.traviscountytx.gov/images/courts/Docs/2022_Felony_Fee_Schedule_04-08-22.pdf

 

[Gypsy Road]

Do we know whose name is on the title or deed? Because that would be the owner(s). Not necessarily the same as the listed name on who applied for the mortgage. Perhaps KA applied for the mortgage and planned to pay the loan with rental income. But she may not be the owner of the real estate, or she jointly owns it with CS. We would need to see the title or deed.

I believe someone upthread posted the property information. Hopefully they will see your post. From memory, two homes were in her name only, but I could be incorrect.

 

[citizen_sleuth]

A few questions:

If CS was trying to end the relationship with KA, why would he buy her a gun and give her $450k (even if it were for her to invest, I don’t know why he would give it to her if he was already thinking of ending things)?

With regard to the 450k, how much did KA have access to at the time of the murder? How much had she spent prior (either on herself or on their business)? If there wasn’t a contact involved, would CS even have any legal claim to that money?

How much money did KA have access to that wasn’t money she received from CS?

These new developments are raising more questions than they are providing answers.

 

[Gypsy Road]

Personally, I don’t believe CS was trying to end his relationship with KA. JMO

 

[Seattle1]

A few questions:

If CS was trying to end the relationship with KA, why would he buy her a gun and give her $450k (even if it were for her to invest, I don’t know why he would give it to her if he was already thinking of ending things)?

With regard to the 450k, how much did KA have access to at the time of the murder? How much had she spent prior (either on herself or on their business)? If there wasn’t a contact involved, would CS even have any legal claim to that money?

How much money did KA have access to that wasn’t money she received from CS?

These new developments are raising more questions than they are providing answers.

CS explained earlier that the October 2021 breakup was not well planned out, citing business and financial entanglements, and also blamed "inertia." In other words, I think this was approximately $450K capital investment that he entrusted to KA over the course of their relationship, and not in recent weeks or months. The warrant cites "as of May 19, 2022" -- representative of a period of time.

I've also questioned the alleged break-up including which party needed the relationship to continue more than the other? For example, why file documents with the Secretary of State to form an LLC for the vintage trailer rehab business at the end of October if CS already moved on and dating MW during this time? Maybe the breakup was one-sided?

Seems to me that CS demonstrated that he might be present but his mind and heart were elsewhere and had been for some time. IMO, they'd both have been better served had they followed through with terminating the relationship last winter. KA could have been enjoying Costa Rica with a new beau and not on the lam. MOO

Seems to me MOO

 

[WingsOverTX]

A few questions:

If CS was trying to end the relationship with KA, why would he buy her a gun and give her $450k (even if it were for her to invest, I don’t know why he would give it to her if he was already thinking of ending things)?

With regard to the 450k, how much did KA have access to at the time of the murder? How much had she spent prior (either on herself or on their business)? If there wasn’t a contact involved, would CS even have any legal claim to that money?

How much money did KA have access to that wasn’t money she received from CS?

These new developments are raising more questions than they are providing answers.

We don't know that CS gave her that money. He says he did. But so far, there is no MSM backup. And KA doesn't declare it as an asset on the Indigent Form.

When you say, "trying to end things" what do you mean? I haven't seen anything in MSM other than he was lying to KA & trying to hide his contact with MW.

As to KA's assets when she fled, we know she got $12,200 from selling her car. And she spent half that much on plastic surgery.

We are going to be waiting on facts for quite a while!

Can you handle a surf board? Because I predict the waves are gonna be intense.

MOO

 

[BUF]

I believe someone upthread posted the property information. Hopefully they will see your post. From memory, two homes were in her name only, but I could be incorrect.

Not the OP, but if you search the Travis County Property Appraiser office, 2 homes are listed in her name.

Account Search


ETA: checking on another site it has one home last sold in 2021, and the other one last sold in 1998?

 

[Seattle1]

But what was this morning?

I'm wondering if today's headlines caused some panic in the defense camp after MSM reported allegations of a warrant citing KA had access to $450k belonging to CS, and that she did not return the money to CS on May 14 as he requested?

Perhaps the defense expected to challenge the prosecution's request for KA's bond to be increased, and this news by C.S. caught them by surprise, and the defense requested the hearing continued to 7/20 as previously scheduled.

And KA being caught with multiple passports (plural) in her purse before KA even left Austin kind of threw a wrench in no premeditated so there went the planned spiel for a reduction in charge to 2nd-degree murder.

I know these boutique firms where a grand first impression means everything to them! They most likely wanted the extra week to regroup. MOO

 

[SMK777]

I'm wondering if today's headlines caused some panic in the defense camp after MSM reported allegations of a warrant citing KA had access to $450k belonging to CS, and that she did not return the money to CS on May 14 as he requested?

Perhaps the defense expected to challenge the prosecution's request for KA's bond to be increased, and this news by C.S. caught them by surprise, and the defense requested the hearing continued to 7/20 as previously scheduled.

And KA being caught with multiple passports (plural) in her purse before KA even left Austin kind of threw a wrench in no premeditated so there went the planned spiel for a reduction in charge to 2nd-degree murder.

I know these boutique firms where a grand first impression means everything to them! They most likely wanted the extra week to regroup. MOO

Now that you’ve explained it that way, it makes perfect sense.
Thanks very much!

 

[Seattle1]

Do we know whose name is on the title or deed? Because that would be the owner(s). Not necessarily the same as the listed name regarding who applied for the mortgage. Perhaps KA applied for the mortgage with CS as investor and planned to pay the mortgage with rental income. But she may not be the owner of the real estate, or she jointly owns it with CS. We would need to see the title or deed.

Bump from last thread and all we know about KA's real estate portfolio:

KA's real estate portfolio:

TX - Moriah Wilson, Cyclist Fatally Shot Before Race, Austin, #3

Not much new info, but if anyone needs a refresher - https://www.statesman.com/story/news/2022/07/05/austin-kaitlin-armstrong-costa-rica-moriah-wilson-murder-details-what-know/7810900001/

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TX - Moriah Wilson, Cyclist Fatally Shot Before Race, Austin, #3

I just noticed from taking a second look at the letter from the plastic surgery center, that it specifies a blurred out name followed by a blurred out passport number. I hadn't noticed the passport number before, but now it convinces me that KA was definitely trying to pass as someone, and I'm...

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