TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #3

[FrostOwl]

If CW left the home because he felt he was at risk, even if he didn't believe NO was a danger to her children, wouldn't he felt it wise to get in touch with NO:s brother to tell about the situation? If he on the other hand left because he thought it might de-escalate the fight, and calm down NO:s temper/anger, wouldn't be a more likely reason why neither he, nor NO:s brother contacted the police when they couldn't reach her, they probably thought she had calmed down.

 

[Lusitana]

I’m starting to believe that Alexa was the first one dead, just because London had two gunshot wounds. I think London tried to run.

 

[BaffleMe]

If CW left the home because he felt he was at risk, even if he didn't believe NO was a danger to her children, wouldn't he felt it wise to get in touch with NO:s brother to tell about the situation? If he on the other hand left because he thought it might de-escalate the fight, and calm down NO:s temper/anger, wouldn't be a more likely reason why neither he, nor NO:s brother contacted the police when they couldn't reach her, they probably thought she had calmed down.

Yesterday was the first I heard that CW tried to contact brother of NO or that he was texting with one of the girls. Now, this could just very well be me, but if one leaves the house, does it make sense to then make calls/texts back but not return? Further, there is likely security at the gate that could have checked on them. Something IMHO is so off here, but I don't know what.

 

[happyday]

Yesterday was the first I heard that CW tried to contact brother of NO or that he was texting with one of the girls. Now, this could just very well be me, but if one leaves the house, does it make sense to then make calls/texts back but not return? Further, there is likely security at the gate that could have checked on them. Something IMHO is so off here, but I don't know what.

Maybe if this type of thing had never happened before, I could see him being so concerned he might return. But what if it was a volatile relationship and arguments like this were common? Maybe he had learned the best thing to do was stay out of her way until it blew over. He was leaving a 16 year old there with her younger sister, not small children. Just a thought.

I’m not sure there was an actual guard on duty overnight? Do we know that? I can’t remember, but even if there was I’m not sure they’d do a welfare check on residents. I think they’d call the police to do that?

 

[happyday]

What’s bothering me most about this case is that it’s not closed. I was so suspicious of what actually happened like so many because of the lack of details released and the very vocal friends who did not believe what the ME had determined. It all seemed very suspicious, and the usual suspect was top on my list.

But now we’re getting all these details that should make it a slam dunk case of a tragic m/m/s, but the sheriff is not content with the investigation and it remains open. WHY?

 

[sandy_80]

he says he is reluctant to call a mother a murderer of her daughters..if its purely emotional than that's unprofessional .
but if he had doubts about the investigation...I don't understand talking about persons of interests if they dont show if they have evidence of a break in or that guy doing it ? or anything that might lead to murder..

 

[happyday]

he says he is reluctant to call a mother a murderer of her daughters..if its purely emotional than that's unprofessional .
but if he had doubts about the investigation...I don't understand talking about persons of interests if they dont show if they have evidence of a break in or that guy doing it ? or anything that might lead to murder..

Yes I wonder if there are important clues that we don’t know that would once again make me do a 180 on what I think or if it’s just to appease the very vocal public/friends etc.? It’s confusing.

 

[Backstroke10]

Yes I wonder if there are important clues that we don’t know that would once again make me do a 180 on what I think or if it’s just to appease the very vocal public/friends etc.? It’s confusing.

I think your spot on with the reason for not closing this case. I don’t think the Sheriff wants to upset a large group of people in San Antonio.
CW is from Tilden, TX, about 1 1/2 hours south of SA. The wealthy Wheeler family is known for ranching, rodeos and the oil and gas industry. CW at 18 moved into the rodeo circuit and later started his own company with his own savings and loans. Also from the article, “Wheeler is truly one of the most humble people I have met”, “ My Dad always taught me to do the right thing”. There are two articles at the link. You have to scroll down to see the one dated 5/7/2014. The newest one is dated 1/24/2019.
I know people can behave very differently in their personal life vs professional life, but I just don’t see CW being capable of murdering NO and her daughters. MOO

Charlie Wheeler - Rodeo, Ranching and OTG Services | SHALE Magazine

 

[BaffleMe]

I think your spot on with the reason for not closing this case. I don’t think the Sheriff wants to upset a large group of people in San Antonio.
CW is from Tilden, TX, about 1 1/2 hours south of SA. The wealthy Wheeler family is known for ranching, rodeos and the oil and gas industry. CW at 18 moved into the rodeo circuit and later started his own company with his own savings and loans. Also from the article, “Wheeler is truly one of the most humble people I have met”, “ My Dad always taught me to do the right thing”. There are two articles at the link. You have to scroll down to see the one dated 5/7/2014. The newest one is dated 1/24/2019.
I know people can behave very differently in their personal life vs professional life, but I just don’t see CW being capable of murdering NO and her daughters. MOO

Charlie Wheeler - Rodeo, Ranching and OTG Services | SHALE Magazine

Unfortunately, we can't get inside his head, but I do know that we've visited cases in which people were shocked when the truth came out. Scott Hacking, (family was very successful), Chris Watts. In his case, a stranger (per my news reading) observed more about him at a hotel than the rest of the people in his life. I really am not trying to point fingers, because I don't know who to point to. It's the usual 'part of the puzzle is missing,' and it drives me crazy. My favorite (as an example) of deceptive is Ted Bundy, and "NO," I am not comparing. Just spooky to not know about people. Maybe we need less news outlets, haha.

 

[DEB-Z]

I think your spot on with the reason for not closing this case. I don’t think the Sheriff wants to upset a large group of people in San Antonio.
CW is from Tilden, TX, about 1 1/2 hours south of SA. The wealthy Wheeler family is known for ranching, rodeos and the oil and gas industry. CW at 18 moved into the rodeo circuit and later started his own company with his own savings and loans. Also from the article, “Wheeler is truly one of the most humble people I have met”, “ My Dad always taught me to do the right thing”. There are two articles at the link. You have to scroll down to see the one dated 5/7/2014. The newest one is dated 1/24/2019.
I know people can behave very differently in their personal life vs professional life, but I just don’t see CW being capable of murdering NO and her daughters. MOO

Charlie Wheeler - Rodeo, Ranching and OTG Services | SHALE Magazine

Thank you for this excellent read...
Do not know how he would be moving in with an older woman, that has three children from different fathers; after going out with her for just a year...
It appears he focused on his professional life, and not so much on his personal life...
I am widowed, and when my children were minors; I never had a man around my children, or have a man staying in my home; This was the result of my working in forensic, and child/adolescent psychiatric nursing...
I find the relationship aspect very perplexing:
I wonder if he had a background check done on her PT moving a whole family into his house; because at that point he would be dealing with children, that he was not the father of, but dealing with the fathers’ and relatives of these children also...
As we clearly see the fathers are bringing charges against him, when he was providing a home for their children and the deaths were ruled m/s... MOO

 

[MimosaMornings]

Montez and Bribiescas never met with CW, I believe one of them was actually quite bothered by that.

So who prevented him from meeting CW or seeing the place where his daughter lived? CW or NO?

 

[Lusitana]

So who prevented him from meeting CW or seeing the place where his daughter lived? CW or NO?

I don't think anyone "prevented" him. The thing is, it wasn't Nichol's house so if he said no, then it was no. I can see CW not being interested in meeting the fathers of his girlfriend's daughters. I still can't understand how their relationship got to the point of moving in with the kids, it just doesn't make sense to me.

 

[Orgona]

I don't think anyone "prevented" him. The thing is, it wasn't Nichol's house so if he said no, then it was no. I can see CW not being interested in meeting the fathers of his girlfriend's daughters. I still can't understand how their relationship got to the point of moving in with the kids, it just doesn't make sense to me.

I’m not surprised about NO moving with her children into CW’s home. There are guys who like to project a picture to the outside world of a good family guy. I know a guy just like this. He has the money, owns a successful company but is not ready to get married and doesn’t want children on his own. But on weekdays to his customers he wants to seem like a good family guy and on the weekends the children are at their father’s so he can have all the fun he likes with his woman.

He finds this ideal, the best of both worlds. The women on the other hand weren’t happy with his non commitment which was after a while becoming a problem in every relationship. Some of them took it longer than the others because the luxury lifestyle was there and otherwise he was good to them. He seems to always find a new one in no time too.

I’m not saying CW is a guy like this as I don’t know him, only that this is not unheard of.

Love can also blind a person to the challenges a relationship complicated with children of another father can bring with itself.

 

[Lusitana]

I’m not surprised about NO moving with her children into CW’s home. There are guys who like to project a picture to the outside world of a good family guy. I know a guy just like this. He has the money, owns a successful company but is not ready to get married and doesn’t want children on his own. But on weekdays to his customers he wants to seem like a good family guy and on the weekends the children are at their father’s so he can have all the fun he likes with his woman.

He finds this ideal, the best of both worlds. The women on the other hand weren’t happy with his non commitment which was after a while becoming a problem in every relationship. Some of them took it longer than the others because the luxury lifestyle was there and otherwise he was good to them. He seems to always find a new one in no time too.

I’m not saying CW is a guy like this as I don’t know him, only that this is not unheard of.

Love can also blind a person to the challenges a relationship complicated with children of another father can bring with itself.

I mean, that does make sense to some degree. But is it really worth it to have a teen and a tween in the house just for appearances? Those ages are so hard, the kids get so emotional and often can't deal with those emotions. Two girls of that age, not matter how much they loved each other and how well they got along with each other, had to be fighting and bickering with each other.

Unless he was leaving super early and getting home super late, he had to spend time with them. Plus, both of their fathers were very present in their lives. Not all men can or want to deal with that. They were dating for about a year, seems a bit early to move in together with two kids. Was Nichol talking about having another child? At 37, she might have been able to. If he wasn't ready, she didn't have much time, maybe he didn't want kids at all. Their fight could have been about so many things, maybe it was something petty and not super important.

Their whole relationship and how the two girls fit in their life together is just odd to me.

 

[Orgona]

I mean, that does make sense to some degree. But is it really worth it to have a teen and a tween in the house just for appearances? Those ages are so hard, the kids get so emotional and often can't deal with those emotions. Two girls of that age, not matter how much they loved each other and how well they got along with each other, had to be fighting and bickering with each other.

Unless he was leaving super early and getting home super late, he had to spend time with them. Plus, both of their fathers were very present in their lives. Not all men can or want to deal with that. They were dating for about a year, seems a bit early to move in together with two kids. Was Nichol talking about having another child? At 37, she might have been able to. If he wasn't ready, she didn't have much time, maybe he didn't want kids at all. Their fight could have been about so many things, maybe it was something petty and not super important.

Their whole relationship and how the two girls fit in their life together is just odd to me.

The guy I know is not opposed to spend time with the children, just the opposite. He loves to play the good guy to them too on a weekday, because the children will then say to others (inclusive their father) what a great guy he is. He also doesn’t wait a year to move the new girl in and has a talent of completely sweeping them off their feet in no time and winning their complete, unconditional trust too.
He is not good at living alone but is a notorious commitmentphobe.

This definitely doesn’t mean CW is this way, I’m only saying this to show a different perspective because this is what I’ve seen and still see happening, so this wouldn’t surprise me at all.

Indeed it wouldn’t surprise me if -as you suggest- NO wanted to have a child by him and this could have become a point of stress in the relationship.

 

[Lusitana]

The guy I know is not opposed to spend time with the children, just the opposite. He loves to play the good guy to them too on a weekday, because the children will then say to others (inclusive their father) what a great guy he is. He also doesn’t wait a year to move the new girl in and has a talent of completely sweeping them off their feet in no time and winning their complete, unconditional trust too.
He is not good at living alone but is a notorious commitmentphobe.

This definitely doesn’t mean CW is this way, I’m only saying this to show a different perspective because this is what I’ve seen and still see happening, so this wouldn’t surprise me at all.

Indeed it wouldn’t surprise me if NO wanted to have a child by him and this could have become a point of stress in the relationship.

Yep, either having a baby or getting married. If they were not on the same page about something big, then any little thing could have caused a big fight.

 

[al66pine]

Slam Dunk?

.... the usual suspect was top on my list. But now we’re getting all these details that should make it a slam dunk case of a tragic m/m/s, but the sheriff is not content with the investigation and it remains open. WHY?

@happyday sbm bbm I'm open to the possibility of m/m/s, but hope LE does not close file before completing a thorough investigation, which they may by now already have done. I know that I don't know what LE knows, but I hesitate to call any case a slam dunk for either 'side.'

No resolution in either crim or civil case will leave everyone happy. my2cts.

 

[Orgona]

I’m eagerly awaiting the results of this review and I hope whatever the outcome the Sheriff will have the courage to tell it how it is.

Just because he feels bad about saying a mother could have done this to her children, or if he would feel bad about to say this about a guy of this standings, the truth is the truth and NO’s and her children’s family and friends deserves the truth. Although IMO he wouldn’t have been chosen as the Sheriff if he really was afraid of telling the truth just because of a feeling.

I trust he will do the right thing, my default setting is trusting LE unless they show me a reason not to. I’m happy he seems to want to be very trough, though.

 

[bears10]

Did Nichol have gunshot residue on her hands? Obviously LE knows the answer to this very important piece of information, but I’m really curious whether or not her hands tested positive for GSR.

 

[BaffleMe]

I mean, that does make sense to some degree. But is it really worth it to have a teen and a tween in the house just for appearances? Those ages are so hard, the kids get so emotional and often can't deal with those emotions. Two girls of that age, not matter how much they loved each other and how well they got along with each other, had to be fighting and bickering with each other.

Unless he was leaving super early and getting home super late, he had to spend time with them. Plus, both of their fathers were very present in their lives. Not all men can or want to deal with that. They were dating for about a year, seems a bit early to move in together with two kids. Was Nichol talking about having another child? At 37, she might have been able to. If he wasn't ready, she didn't have much time, maybe he didn't want kids at all. Their fight could have been about so many things, maybe it was something petty and not super important.

Their whole relationship and how the two girls fit in their life together is just odd to me.

Large house. Who knows if he spent time with kids?