TX - Nichol Olsen, 37, & 2 daughters, found shot dead inside mansion, Bexar County, 10 Jan 2019 #3

[Backstroke10]

Thank you for this excellent read...
Do not know how he would be moving in with an older woman, that has three children from different fathers; after going out with her for just a year...
It appears he focused on his professional life, and not so much on his personal life...
I am widowed, and when my children were minors; I never had a man around my children, or have a man staying in my home; This was the result of my working in forensic, and child/adolescent psychiatric nursing...
I find the relationship aspect very perplexing:
I wonder if he had a background check done on her PT moving a whole family into his house; because at that point he would be dealing with children, that he was not the father of, but dealing with the fathers’ and relatives of these children also...
As we clearly see the fathers are bringing charges against him, when he was providing a home for their children and the deaths were ruled m/s... MOO

YW I found the article interesting as well.
I have a son and was divorced from his father when he was young. Like you, I never moved in with any man or had any man move in with me. I dated on the weekends my son was with his dad.
NO was absolutely beautiful and from what I’ve read, CW really fell for her fast. I’m sure the feeling was mutual. It looked like they hit the town and partied quite a bit. This is just an assumption from seeing online pics and reading articles early on. I think this was a whirlwind romance, intense, and very passionate. I can see him asking her to move in and I can see her jumping at the chance. I’m sure at first things were great until reality set in. I don’t think either of them thought things through because they were in that whirlwind romance. I think he was very professional, smart and serious when it came to work but probably not so much in his personal life. I think a lot of people are like this. MOO
There were some posts about why CW never met the fathers. Maybe the fathers didn’t want to meet CW. Maybe NO met the Dads to drop the girls off or maybe they were picked up from school. I don’t find this aspect of the case weird/odd. MOO

I bet his Dad did a background check.
MOO

 

[Backstroke10]

Did Nichol have gunshot residue on her hands? Obviously LE knows the answer to this very important piece of information, but I’m really curious whether or not her hands tested positive for GSR.

We don’t know if she did. The ME ruled it a m/s but that’s all we know.

 

[Warwick7]

Did Nichol have gunshot residue on her hands? Obviously LE knows the answer to this very important piece of information, but I’m really curious whether or not her hands tested positive for GSR.

We don't know this info, at least as of yet. But, its an excellent question.

What we do know is:

Calls made to 911 the night of the Anaqua Springs shooting deaths

*** ...said Sheriff “And I'm sorry. I'm not ready to label Nichol Olson, as a murderer, a double murderer of her own children with what I have in hand."

*** "At this point, I still believe there are persons of interest that we have not spoken to. We have not spoken to, to the extent that I would see them, I'd like to see them spoken to."

*** And there are persons of interest in this case and we have not yet established, where they were and what they were doing at the time that we believe these deaths occurred,” said Sheriff Salazar. “That's what I'm trying to establish here, and until that question is answered satisfactorily for every single person of interest in this case, it's not going to be closed.”

CW is named a person of interest.

Sheriff says boyfriend of woman in San Antonio triple shooting is 'person of interest,' but not a suspect

Anaqua Springs shooting case sent back to investigators for further review | kens5.com

 

[bears10]

We don’t know if she did. The ME ruled it a m/s but that’s all we know.

i know, sorry, it was a rhetorical question

 

[Warwick7]

"The medical examiner ruled the case a murder-suicide, indicating that Olsen fatally shot her daughters before turning the gun on herself, but Salazar directed investigators to see if there was any evidence to refute those findings."

However....

"Salazar called the investigation that was turned into him “incomplete” during a press conference on Thursday."

Then added.....

"Murdering your own children is about the worst thing, the worst thing that anybody can be accused of, and I’m not ready to accuse Nichol Olsen of that. I’m just not,” Salazar said. “I’m not ready to go there yet and nobody can rush me to do that.”

Anaqua Springs shooting case reassigned after sheriff deems investigation ‘incomplete’

 

[Backstroke10]

i know, sorry, it was a rhetorical question

I’ve been reading some interesting articles about the reliability of GSR testing on undisputed suicides by gunshot. It doesn’t appear to be as reliable as I had thought. From one of the articles;

“Since only 50% of cases where the person is known to have fired a weapon were positive for GSR by either method, this test should not be relied upon to determine whether someone has discharged a firearm and is not useful as a determining factor of whether or not a wound is self-inflicted or non-self-inflicted”
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17721164/.

Another article about GSR reliability.

“As you can see, the weight attached to evidence from gunshot residue hinges on too many factors, which is one of the reasons why the FBI closed its GSR testing laboratory way back in 2006.”
Gunshot Residue – The Whitest Elephant Of Them All

 

[Catmommy]

Where was the gun that killed them found? In near proximity of the alleged shooter? Follow the evidence always.

 

[Vern]

Did Nichol have gunshot residue on her hands? Obviously LE knows the answer to this very important piece of information, but I’m really curious whether or not her hands tested positive for GSR.

They've ruled her to be a suicide. That's never been in doubt so I suspect "yes, the pros did their jobs" and checked that out along with splatter and gun placement. The doubt has revolved around who killed the girls.

 

[sandy_80]

They've ruled her to be a suicide. That's never been in doubt so I suspect "yes, the pros did their jobs" and checked that out along with splatter and gun placement. The doubt has revolved around who killed the girls.

this doesn't make sense..its not like someone walked in.. saw her dead so he killed the girls.
hiding the information here is kinda of weird..

 

[elliefant]

this doesn't make sense..its not like someone walked in.. saw her dead so he killed the girls.
hiding the information here is kinda of weird..

I think in a theory of separate shooters wouldn’t it be the other way round - that she found her daughters dead and killed herself?

Not that I’m suggesting that happened.

 

[DEB-Z]

I’m not surprised about NO moving with her children into CW’s home. There are guys who like to project a picture to the outside world of a good family guy. I know a guy just like this. He has the money, owns a successful company but is not ready to get married and doesn’t want children on his own. But on weekdays to his customers he wants to seem like a good family guy and on the weekends the children are at their father’s so he can have all the fun he likes with his woman.

He finds this ideal, the best of both worlds. The women on the other hand weren’t happy with his non commitment which was after a while becoming a problem in every relationship. Some of them took it longer than the others because the luxury lifestyle was there and otherwise he was good to them. He seems to always find a new one in no time too.

I’m not saying CW is a guy like this as I don’t know him, only that this is not unheard of.

Love can also blind a person to the challenges a relationship complicated with children of another father can bring with itself.

I think life is complicated enough; moving a women with three children, that have three different fathers, is very challenging, and difficult;
I do not find this presents a “positive family image”: I would wonder about his, or anyone else’s choices, that complicate their lives in such an extreme manner...
They have apparently only been dating for a year...
I wonder if she was unstable with other men that she had children with, and moved her children into different homes frequently:
If so it could show a pattern of her relationship choices, and/or mental health issues affecting her relationships;
Did she have anxiety, attachment, or anger issues:
If he asked her to move out, this could have set her off, if she wanted stability and/or a commitment that he did not want to offer her... IMO

 

[Orgona]

I think life is complicated enough; moving a women with three children, that have three different fathers, is very challenging, and difficult;
I do not find this presents a “positive family image”: I would wonder about his, or anyone else’s choices, that complicate their lives in such an extreme manner...
They have apparently only been dating for a year...
I wonder if she was unstable with other men that she had children with, and moved her children into different homes frequently:
If so it could show a pattern of her relationship choices, and/or mental health issues affecting her relationships;
Did she have anxiety, attachment, or anger issues:
If he asked her to move out, this could have set her off, if she wanted stability and/or a commitment that he did not want to offer her... IMO

Agree. I’m having the impression she might have been the kind of woman who tries to bind guys to herself with a child consciously or unconsciously. It could be a pattern. Then again, things in life sometimes just happen. Definitely no judging from me.

But if her life was seemingly crumbling down infront of her, this could have set her off. Either choosing the way out and taking her daughters with her to -in her eyes- spare them from suffering the consequences of her failed relationship again, or setting off a fight which resulted in the murder of them all.
Unfortunately at the moment to me it seems more likely this will be a case of the former. We will see.

 

[BaffleMe]

I just found this news article dated Jan 10 2021, and I found it helpful. It helped me understand why the Sheriff did not close the case. He has assigned it to someone who specializes in cold cases. (That's good IMO). Also, I forgot about the smeared blood on the wall and floors. What would cause that? Bang; you're dead does not, does it?
Anaqua Springs tragedy timeline, case still unsolved

 

[Vern]

We don’t know if she did. The ME ruled it a m/s but that’s all we know.

The ME ruled it a murder/suicide and the Sherriff agreed with him on the suicide bit, BUT stated he wasn't ready to close the case because he "still had TWO murders to solve." Two. Not three.

Way back when in the beginning. Two murders. The Girls. Who killed the girls.

People pointing that statement out and what the statement actually said, "TWO murders to solve" (not three) and the arguments around it already got this thread shut down once by some who insisted that a "POI, not suspect" must have killed all three of them.

Nicole committed suicide; that's not in doubt. Those that do this for a living - the pros (ME and Sherriff) - have never expressed doubt about that bit. They obviously have what they need to back up that finding. I'm good with listening to the experts.

 

[Orgona]

I just found this news article dated Jan 10 2021, and I found it helpful. It helped me understand why the Sheriff did not close the case. He has assigned it to someone who specializes in cold cases. (That's good IMO). Also, I forgot about the smeared blood on the wall and floors. What would cause that? Bang; you're dead does not, does it?
Anaqua Springs tragedy timeline, case still unsolved

Thanks for this, this indeed was an interesting summary of the case.

Bang you are dead is many times not the case, although it looks good in the movies. It depends on the trajectory of the bullet.

It could be that one of them was fatally wounded and tried to get away instinctively, or one girl was trying to see if her sister is still alive, or NO wanted to see if one of her daughters was still alive but ultimately succumbed to her injuries before she could do anything about it.

Or one of the girls was shot twice, because after the first shot she was still not dead and trying to get away.

CW too could have touched them to see if any one of them was still alive and thereby causing the smear, being in shock. Only LE knows if he had blood on him and in case he did, does what they saw corresponded with CW’s explanation.

The arising paternity issue pulls me toward murder suicide because NO might have known or suspected the child was indeed from a different guy and that would have blow up in her face.

 

[Vern]

this doesn't make sense..its not like someone walked in.. saw her dead so he killed the girls.
hiding the information here is kinda of weird..

I agree; it also doesn't make sense that someone killed the girls, then left, then she committed suicide.

That's probably why the lawyer of CW is so pissed off. Let him get on with life already.

 

[MURDERER_SERVANT]

Where were the phones found and what about the fingerprints on the phones ? Do we know anything about that ?
My guess they were all murdered brutally .
m/s doesn’t make any sense on this case esp as per the latest phone calls imo.

 

[Vern]

Where were the phones found and what about the fingerprints on the phones ? Do we know anything about that ?
My guess they were all murdered brutally .
m/s doesn’t make any sense on this case esp as per the latest phone calls imo.

Well, who's your suspect then because the Sherriff has clearly stated that CW isn't a suspect.

How do you explain the Sherriff saying he had "TWO murders to solve".

Which of the three S/M/M doesn't he have to solve??

The one they are able to prove is a suicide is my guess. Interestingly that, for me, the phone calls just serve to further confirm that Nicole killed her daughters, then herself, for me.

 

[sandy_80]

how strange that a house is sold directly after murders so fast and at such a cheap price...I guess the price was irresistible

 

[Vern]

how strange that a house is sold directly after murders so fast and at such a cheap price...I guess the price was irresistible

It's a multi-million dollar home. I don't know how much it actually sold for, but if there's someone out there house-shopping who has no emotional connection to the previous occupants I can certainly see them snapping up a "good deal". It certainly is a beautiful home.