MISTRIAL TX - Nine dead, 20 injured in shootout at Waco bikers' meeting, 17 May 2015

[DEPUTYDAWG]

After doing some research into it, I'm totally confused. It appears that Hispanic is tracked when it suits, and Hispanic is classified as white when it suits. If I were more naive, I wouldn't understand why.

LOL, welcome to my world of confusion! :scared:

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Ruh-Roh

3 motorcycle gang members mistakenly released on lowered bonds
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/twin-p...cle_ad2e5c3c-617d-5051-b4d4-3654ee8abf68.html

Ru-roh is right. Of course, there are some now saying "oh sure it was a mistake..." drama is now starting

I'm seeing some local names I know (not the arrested, but the posters from around here), that are bickering in FB wars with other posters, over locals telling others to stay out of their MF'ing business, etc. The local drama has now kicked in on FB, for those who were local and got arrested! Tempers are a flarin' ...heck, it may be family members that are going to be erupting in the next few days or this weekend, not the MC members. Eek. So apparently not all (not to say we thought they ALL were) were from out of town. Clearly, by reading my FB feeds, there's a lot of knowns that are housed, compliments of McLennan County :laughing:

 

[SCHMAE]

http://www.khou.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/19/rival-biker-gangs-bulletin-warning/27569045/

"Information has been received that law enforcement presence will not stop motorcycle gangs from completing their mission," the bulletin stated.

That mission is likely to be retaliation against each other in the wake of Sunday's violence.''

WOW !

 

[faw720]

http://www.khou.com/story/news/nation/2015/05/19/rival-biker-gangs-bulletin-warning/27569045/

"Information has been received that law enforcement presence will not stop motorcycle gangs from completing their mission," the bulletin stated.

That mission is likely to be retaliation against each other in the wake of Sunday's violence.''

WOW !

I say let 'em go to it providing they go to an isolated area where they will be no danger to LE or innocent people. The world would be a better place if they just exterminated each other.

 

[mysteriew]

Ru-roh is right. Of course, there are some now saying "oh sure it was a mistake..." drama is now starting

I'm seeing some local names I know (not the arrested, but the posters from around here), that are bickering in FB wars with other posters, over locals telling others to stay out of their MF'ing business, etc. The local drama has now kicked in on FB, for those who were local and got arrested! Tempers are a flarin' ...heck, it may be family members that are going to be erupting in the next few days or this weekend, not the MC members. Eek. So apparently not all (not to say we thought they ALL were) were from out of town. Clearly, by reading my FB feeds, there's a lot of knowns that are housed, compliments of McLennan County :laughing:

I have some questions lol.
The question I have is did they have help getting "mistakenly" released?
I mean really these were hi profile arrests. I understand that there would have been a lot work and confusion at that time. But they didn't just lose their paperwork or misplace them. They actually released them! They will be long gone by now. How many of the released were club leadership? Which club/clubs were they from?

DD I'm just jumping off your post. Not expecting you to answer. Unless you have something you can share .

 

[SCHMAE]

CBS7 News / KOSA-TV via CBS DFW
17 mins ·
UPDATE: Authorities have released the names of the nine men that died in this week's biker gang shooting in Waco. They are:
Richard Matthew Jordan II, 31
Jesus Delgado Rodriguez, 65
Charles Wayne Russell, 46
Daniel Raymond Boyett, 44
Wayne Lee Campbell, 43
Jacob Lee Rhyne, 39
Richard Vincent Kirschner, Jr., 47
Manuel Issac Rodriguez, 40
Matthew Mark Smith, 27

https://www.facebook.com/CBS7News?fref=nf

 

[faw720]

http://kxan.com/2015/05/18/bandidos-leader-says-there-is-no-order-to-kill-police/

Bandidos leader says there is no order to kill police. Why do I not believe him??????

 

[mysteriew]

http://kxan.com/2015/05/18/bandidos-leader-says-there-is-no-order-to-kill-police/

Bandidos leader says there is no order to kill police. Why do I not believe him??????

You don't believe him? Why he might fight, kill, sell drugs/women or steal. But he definitely draws the line at lying!

 

[faw720]

You don't believe him? Why he might fight, kill, sell drugs/women or steal. But he definitely draws the line at lying!

LOL!!:clap:

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I have some questions lol.
The question I have is did they have help getting "mistakenly" released?
I mean really these were hi profile arrests. I understand that there would have been a lot work and confusion at that time. But they didn't just lose their paperwork or misplace them. They actually released them! They will be long gone by now. How many of the released were club leadership? Which club/clubs were they from?

DD I'm just jumping off your post. Not expecting you to answer. Unless you have something you can share .

I got nuttin' for this! :scared:

I'll be watching this, since I know so many of the local names when it finally comes out WTH happened!

Heck, y'all will probably find something on the internet before I hear something local. You guys are good! All my *normal* connections are busy right now, or out of the office...probably trying to sleep a little. They really have been working almost non-stop here, every.single.agency (well, except ours). Let me also give a big shoutout to DPS Criminal Investigations Division...they're the ones that have done so much of the gang intel and are very good at what they do. So good. Just a shoutout to them. They're like my agency...they don't want the publicity, but they've got great people and great resources.

 

[iluvmua]

I saw that one of them worked at Best Buy as part of the Geek Squad.

 

[EllieBee]

I would think that "Habanero Sphincter" is an apt description of most in biker gangs. It doesn't bring a very pretty picture to mind does it.

IIRC, bikers call that "monkey butt". :thinking:

 

[EllieBee]

Oh wow. Yeah, if I were a restaurant, I'd want to rethink my "Biker Nights" for the immediate future, ya know?!
I know that TABC is currently investigating the Twin Peaks in Killeen (near Ft Hood), as it is run by the same franchisee.

Mr Jay Patel is a name that isn't thought of highly right now in this area.

I would like to say that I did my undergrad in Florida. Florida is a big draw for bikers with Daytona's "Bike Week" as well as other gatherings.

As a college student, I had very positive experiences with some awfully rough-looking bike club members. While in the same bars/restaurants as these members, I observed their courtesy, including offering their seats to ladies and being polite to the servers/bartenders and tipping well (something college kids do NOT do, lol).

I say this as a reminder that not all people who share a particular label, share all labels.

There are "th"-words in many groups. But we (as a society) tend to reserve certain epithets for specific persons, and yet not for others- even when the same behaviors are exhibited. And in some cases, the "th" label is applied even when no crime has been committed.

What I would like to see is society assessing a person based on their actions. If a cop shoots an unarmed man who is restrained- CRIMINAL. If a drug dealer shoots a cop to avoid arrest-CRIMINAL. If a bunch of gang members kill a bunch of rival gang members-CRIMINALS.

Bad people are found in all walks of life. No group should be excused based on ethnicity or job description.

IN MY OPINION.

 

[AngelWings444]

CNN reported the 3 suspects who were released "accidentally" were originally booked on $50,000 bail instead of the 1 million. They weren't accidentally released, they posted bail. Now, the police are looking for them to correct the bail error. From what was reported, they were some of the first suspects to be booked.

Forgot to post this earlier. Oops. All 3 suspects are back in custody with a million dollar bond.

 

[CARIIS]

I would like to say that I did my undergrad in Florida. Florida is a big draw for bikers with Daytona's "Bike Week" as well as other gatherings.

As a college student, I had very positive experiences with some awfully rough-looking bike club members. While in the same bars/restaurants as these members, I observed their courtesy, including offering their seats to ladies and being polite to the servers/bartenders and tipping well (something college kids do NOT do, lol).

I say this as a reminder that not all people who share a particular label, share all labels.

There are "th"-words in many groups. But we (as a society) tend to reserve certain epithets for specific persons, and yet not for others- even when the same behaviors are exhibited. And in some cases, the "th" label is applied even when no crime has been committed.

What I would like to see is society assessing a person based on their actions. If a cop shoots an unarmed man who is restrained- CRIMINAL. If a drug dealer shoots a cop to avoid arrest-CRIMINAL. If a bunch of gang members kill a bunch of rival gang members-CRIMINALS.

Bad people are found in all walks of life. No group should be excused based on ethnicity or job description.

IN MY OPINION.

I loved bike week - went every year for aout 5 years during college as well. Fun, warm , laid back party people - loved it !!

 

[CARIIS]

IIRC, bikers call that "monkey butt". :thinking:

Oh my!

 

[CARIIS]

<modsnip>

I just dont "get it". Like I understand Donald Trump guarding his turf (!) He paid for it. What is this "turf" - the highway, the trees, like what is my turf? My car is my turf, where I live is my turf, I paid for it, turf?

 

[CARIIS]

McLennan County TX Jail - Highway 6

McLennan County &#8226; County Jail &#8226; MEDIUM Security &#8226; 600 Beds

County Jail used by the jurisdictions of McLennan to confine inmates for short periods while awaiting trial or processing. As inmates are staying for only a short period, it has fewer amenities than a jail or prison.

fewer amenities than a jail or prison. Inmates do, however, have access to bathroom facilities and are provided with meals during their stay. McLennan County TX Jail - Highway 6 may also have a common area in which inmates can socialize.

https://www.inmateaid.com/prisons/mclennan-county-tx-jail-highway-6

[h=2]Waco police says likely 3 to 4 officers opened fire during the biker gang shooting at Twin Peaks restaurant but investigation is ongoing - @Fox4Natalie[/h]

 

[CARIIS]

The Bandidos Motorcycle Club, also known as the Bandido Nation, is a "one-percenter" motorcycle club[SUP][1][/SUP][SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] and organized crime syndicate with a worldwide membership. The club was formed in 1966 by Don Chambers in Texas. Its motto is "We are the people our parents warned us about." It is estimated to have 2,400 members in 210 chapters, located in 22 countries

founded by 36 year old dockworker Donald Chambers in March 1966 in Houston, Texas.[SUP][5][/SUP] He named the club in honor of the Mexican bandits who lived by their own rules and he recruited members from biker bars locally in Houston as well as in Corpus Christi, Galveston, and San Antonio.[SUP][5][/SUP] Like other outlaw motorcycle clubs (Outlaws, the Pagans, and the Hells Angels), they call themselves "One Percenters", a phrase coined by the former president of the American Motorcyclist Association who once stated that 99 percent of motorcyclists were law-abiding citizens and 1 percent “outlaws.”[

extends into Louisiana, Missouri, Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas, New Mexico, Colorado, Montana, Wyoming, South Dakota, Utah, Idaho, Nevada, Washington, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and several other state

Glenn Merritt of the Bellingham, Washington chapter was sentenced to four years in prison for drug possession and trafficking in stolen property. A total of 32 members were indicted in the associated investigation, on charges including conspiracy, witness tampering, and various drug and gun violations. Eighteen of those pled guilty.[SUP][18][/SUP] In October, 2006, George Wegers, then Bandidos' international president, pled guilty and received a two-year sentence for conspiracy to engage in racketeering.[SUP][citation needed]


[/SUP] On 16 August 2004, a passer-by on Interstate 10 flagged down a police car after finding Robert Quiroga, International Boxing Federation Super flyweight champion from 1990 to 1993, lying next to his car. Quiroga had been stabbed multiple times.[SUP][19][/SUP] Richard Merla, a member of the Bandidos, was arrested in 2006 for the killing and in 2007 pled no contest to murdering Quiroga; he was sentenced to 40 years in prison.[SUP][20][/SUP] "I don't regret it. I don't have no remorse. I don't feel sorry for him and his family. I don't and I mean that," Merla admits.[SUP][21][/SUP] In regards to the murder of Robert Quiroga, the Bandidos Motorcycle Club denounced any involvement in the crime, stating that Merla's actions were his own, and not those of the Club. Merla was expelled from the Bandidos due to his actions.[SUP][21]

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandidos_Motorcycle_Club
[/URL][/SUP]

In March 2006 police in Austin, Texas announced that the Bandidos were the prime suspects in the March 18, 2006 slaying of a 44-year-old local motorcyclist named Anthony Benesh. Benesh, who had been trying to start an Austin chapter of the Hells Angels, was shot in the head by an unseen sniper, as he was leaving a North Austin restaurant with his girlfriend and two children. Police said that Benesh was flanked by other people and the shooter used only one bullet, fired at a distance from a high-powered rifle. The murder occurred on the same weekend as the annual Bandidos MC "Birthday Party" in Southeast Texas, marking the 40th anniversary of the club's 1966 founding. According to police, in the days before his murder, Benesh had been receiving telephone calls from Bandidos telling him to stop wearing a vest that displayed Hells Angels patches.[SUP][22][/SUP][SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP]
On May 17, 2015, the Bandidos were involved in a gun battle at a restaurant parking lot in Waco, Texas that killed nine people and wounded 18. Among the dead were members of the Bandidos and the Cossacks.[SUP][25][/SUP]

 

[sonjay]

I would like to say that I did my undergrad in Florida. Florida is a big draw for bikers with Daytona's "Bike Week" as well as other gatherings.

As a college student, I had very positive experiences with some awfully rough-looking bike club members. While in the same bars/restaurants as these members, I observed their courtesy, including offering their seats to ladies and being polite to the servers/bartenders and tipping well (something college kids do NOT do, lol).

I say this as a reminder that not all people who share a particular label, share all labels.

There are "th"-words in many groups. But we (as a society) tend to reserve certain epithets for specific persons, and yet not for others- even when the same behaviors are exhibited. And in some cases, the "th" label is applied even when no crime has been committed.

What I would like to see is society assessing a person based on their actions. If a cop shoots an unarmed man who is restrained- CRIMINAL. If a drug dealer shoots a cop to avoid arrest-CRIMINAL. If a bunch of gang members kill a bunch of rival gang members-CRIMINALS.

Bad people are found in all walks of life. No group should be excused based on ethnicity or job description.

IN MY OPINION.

Is someone excusing the motorcycle gangs based on their ethnicity or job description??????? Wow, I must have missed that. You got a link?