Found Deceased TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, Fort Hood military base, items left behind, 22 Apr 2020 #2 *arrests*

[TexLil]

MOO here is my working theory. I have no names just a scenario that in my mind fits the few pieces of information we have.

VG was being harassed by a higher up. At first she tried to ignore hoping it would stop. Harasser escalated. Multiple times. Finally VG informs him she will be filing a report. Harasser is a superior and able to change her work schedule, orders her to meet him or go with him. He's able to order others to change records, etc. VG likely was murdered by same person harassing her. Harasser likely committed a heinous crime to cover up the less serious crime. Evil.

All MOO.

 

[VanishedinthevalleyAthena]

MOO here is my working theory. I have no names just a scenario that in my mind fits the few pieces of information we have.

VG was being harassed by a higher up. At first she tried to ignore hoping it would stop. Harasser escalated. Multiple times. Finally VG informs him she will be filing a report. Harasser is a superior and able to change her work schedule, orders her to meet him or go with him. He's able to order others to change records, etc. VG likely was murdered by same person harassing her. Harasser likely committed a heinous crime to cover up the less serious crime. Evil.

All MOO.

I totally agree, this harasser has had all his info taken off the Fort Hood website now too. So CID probably knows whats up with this guy.

 

[Jackielee09]

I totally agree, this harasser has had all his info taken off the Fort Hood website now too. So CID probably knows whats up with this guy.

I’m thinking Fort Hood officials removed him from website. I doubt anyone can just remove their name. But if they can make a human go missing I guess anything’s possible

 

[Boxer]

I’m thinking Fort Hood officials removed him from website. I doubt anyone can just remove their name. But if they can make a human go missing I guess anything’s possible

A SgtMjr may be in charge of the battalian website.
But MOO it's more likely been removed because he is under investigation and in a day or so there will a replacement or acting SgtMj on the page while the investigation plays out.
Even if he is only a harrasser and not a murderer his career should be toast.

 

[Tricia]

Hey Everyone,

I'll be talking about Vanessa's case and some of your posts in just a few minutes on Websleuths YouTube Live True Crime Chat.

We do this every day at 2:00 PM Eastern. It's supposed to be a short live update but I can't seem to stop blabbing so it's always longer.

If you join us be sure and jump into our chat room and tell us what you think about the case.

CLICK THIS LINK AT 2PM(ish) TO JOIN US LIVE TODAY

I add the "ish" because I might be a few minutes late. With 2 dogs,2 cats, AND I have to put on makeup, well it makes it hard to be on time. LOL Hope to see you there.

 

[Jackielee09]

I had answered a post in the first thread, and it said the thread was closed when I went to post it, so I diligently copied it to paste it in this thread and lost the whole thing.

I’m just glad there is a thread number 2. After 2 months. Where are the rest of the WS’ ers ?

 

[Boxer]

I may be way off here but is it possible someone had possession of her phone PRIOR to morning roll call, and that in fact she may have been disappeared earlier than reported? Did she SPEAK with her sister that morning or only text? Last known sighting, reported or confirmed? The lack of information and action is outrageous. JMO

Only a text and Sister thought the text was weird.
The text was that she was going in to work at 9am.

 

[jondaba]

I am confused. Is it correct that Vanessa’s mother originally said that Vanessa would not tell her the name of her alleged harasser?
Then, last week, Mom said that last month she gave the CID a name she got from Vanessa.
Query - did Vanessa tell her mom the name of a person who harassed her or not?

Query - If Vanessa told her mom the name of someone who harassed her, why did Mom only relate that name to CID a month ago, instead of 2 months ago when Vanessa went missing?

 

[VanishedinthevalleyAthena]

I am confused. Is it correct that Vanessa’s mother originally said that Vanessa would not tell her the name of her alleged harasser?
Then, last week, Mom said that last month she gave the CID a name she got from Vanessa.
Query - did Vanessa tell her mom the name of a person who harassed her or not?

Query - If Vanessa told her mom the name of someone who harassed her, why did Mom only relate that name to CID a month ago, instead of 2 months ago when Vanessa went missing?

The way I understand it is vanessa confided in a co-worker, co-worker told mom. So perhaps the co-worker didn't tell mom until a month is? Total guess from me tho

 

[oviedo]

Tricia is live still

 

[GordianKnot]

I have to record an episode today... think it would be ok to now say this mans name as the subject of a tip I got...and say he has been removed from the site?

No.
It would not be okay to say "this man's" name here now.
Unless a name is reported in MSM or someone is named a suspect by LE, names cannot just be thrown out here on the threads.

WS is a fact-based forum.
Not a rumor mill.

Sleuthing of non-POIs/non-suspects is against WS TOS.

Alerting my own post so that a mod can hopefully address.

JMO.

 

[pizzaman12]

I have to record an episode today... think it would be ok to now say this mans name as the subject of a tip I got...and say he has been removed from the site?

On your podcast? With everything going on, they should be answering questions as to whether or not a member of the leadership group was removed and is it related to the missing person's case.

If not, they shouldn't have any issues addressing it but if I'm the family, I'm screaming for any answers

I wouldn't mention that person here though

 

[oviedo]

I don't even know what to say.....

Where is Vanessa?

 

[NoSI]

I wonder if CID has searched the tunnels there on post. That would certainly be an important place to look.

I agree @LaLaw2000. Did quick research on tunnels yesterday and found information that they are frequently utilized for firefighter training. I will try and find link once back at my computer. MOO.

 

[NoSI]

At one point there was a video shown of Vanessa at a restaurant picking up carryout. She drove up in her white Jeep. Some people call it a truck. Is it possible that was the 'truck' Vanessa's Mother was referring to and that being the last time Vanessa was actually seen? The person interviewed at the restaurant stated that Vanessa picked up enough food for 2 people. Who was that other person?

Cannot find that video to link!
***MOO

Hi, i think it is this one maybe. It is embedded in news article.

Killeen restaurant releases surveillance video of missing Fort Hood Soldier Vanessa Guillen before disappearance

 

[Boxer]

I agree @LaLaw2000. Did quick research on tunnels yesterday and found information that they are frequently utilized for firefighter training. I will try and find link once back at my computer. MOO.

Tunnels seem risky. But then going out the gate is risky.

MOO they are on the scent now.

MPs need to clean up their act unless they want
"Lazier than a Ft. Hood MP investigating harrassment"
to become a thing.

 

[oviedo]

At one point there was a video shown of Vanessa at a restaurant picking up carryout. She drove up in her white Jeep. Some people call it a truck. Is it possible that was the 'truck' Vanessa's Mother was referring to and that being the last time Vanessa was actually seen? The person interviewed at the restaurant stated that Vanessa picked up enough food for 2 people. Who was that other person?

Cannot find that video to link!
***MOO

We do have a media thread for her - TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, 22 Apr 2020 *MEDIA,MAPS,TIMELINE ONLY NO DISCUSSION

Killeen restaurant releases surveillance video of missing Fort Hood Soldier Vanessa Guillen before disappearance
The video was taken on April 15, a week before she vanished from Fort Hood.

Killeen restaurant releases surveillance video of missing Fort Hood Soldier Vanessa Guillen before disappearance

Published: 7:56 PM CDT June 17, 2020
Updated: 8:09 PM CDT June 17, 2020


Killeen restaurant releases surveillance video of missing Fort Hood Soldier Vanessa Guillen before disappearance

 

[LaborDayRN]

I don't believe that LE told VG's mother that she was last seen in a white truck.

According to translators here, VG's mother apparently said that "someone" told her that.
For all we know, that someone could have been a psychic.
It could have been a co-worker of VG's repeating a rumor they heard.
We don't know where that claim is coming from.

We do know this: LE has not stated she was last seen in a white truck.

That press conference told me exactly why LE isn't sharing information freely with family members. To do so would compromise their investigation horribly.

Her mother is understandably distraught.
Her mother is angry.
She is blaming "everyone" at Fort Hood.
"Everyone is responsible."

Those are feelings talking.
Not facts.

Everyone is NOT responsible.
But someone is.

I absolutely believe that LE has an (unnamed) suspect in this case.
They need to have proof BARD in order to successfully prosecute the perpetrator.
The fact that an arrest has not yet been made tells me that they do not have enough evidence to meet that threshold right now.

Unless/until LE names a suspect, neither can we.

My own opinion from very early on has been that the someone responsible is going to end up being someone of rank, and possibly married.

JMO.

BBM: I agree. And if there is a married individual involved, friends of Vanessa's may have been aware of the situation. I would hope people are talking and enough evidence will come to light to allow Vanessa to be located.

 

[crhedBngr]

The 69th air artillery brigade have their own fb page, look there, don't post it here. Moo.

WOAH.

 

[irridescentmoon]

I have to record an episode today... think it would be ok to now say this mans name as the subject of a tip I got...and say he has been removed from the site?

If you're saying its the guy that was named in a YT psychic video, then I have my doubts. I am open to all ideas, but command chiefs are a pretty big thing. They have actual soldiers drive them, and assist them in all meetings or places they go to. I'm not saying it's impossible, but I don't think that would be appropriate here. I mean, I would still be interested in this "theory", but there has to be some pretty good confidence in this "tipper". MOO