Found Deceased TX - PFC Vanessa Guillen, 20, Fort Hood military base, items left behind, 22 Apr 2020 *arrests* #3

[Lemonslush]

Yeah! Like, How do they get away with not answering these questions with certainty unless they're covering something up. You'd think they wouldn't have to since they're lucky to have CA in custody and the confirmation via text that ADR was the "brains" (for lack of a better word) behind it all. I would love to know exactly WHAT is keeping them from being honest with the family and public.

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

How do you put a picture in a post?

Idk if anyone answered, @Crones Eye.

On the right corner of every post there are choices next to "post reply". Choose "upload a file". That should bring you a link to your pictures.
Choose one and it will appear as a thumbnail.

(be careful not to be like me, I have uploaded the wrong pics before, lol)

 

[Ninja Bunny]

Regarding the comment that might get Lt Col Betsy Schoeller fired, here's her apology and explanation.
The explanation is true. The apology is weak though... again someone who says they're sorry people misunderstood... blah blah....

Personal statement by Betsy Schoeller regarding the death of Specialist Vanessa Guillen

“I’m sorry you’re so stupid you misinterpreted me.”

She’s so full of crap. IMO she meant what she said in that original post. The “You guys are kidding, right?” and “cry like a snowflake” lines make it clear. She had ample opportunity to edit her comment and apologize in the thread right away if she thought she was being misinterpreted. She didn’t, she doubled down and taunted people. It wasn’t until it went viral that she got scared and ran.

 

[CronesEye]

Idk if anyone answered, @Crones Eye.

On the right corner of every post there are choices next to "post reply". Choose "upload a file". That should bring you a link to your pictures.
Choose one and it will appear as a thumbnail.

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Thank you. Everyone makes mistakes, as long as your intentions are good. You should have seen the mistake I made last night when I was on this late and should have gone to sleep. I found another AR military photoshot and linked it. Other members showed me my error. I felt terrible. I feel bad for that other AR to have the same name. So grateful that post was deleted after I reported myself. I will make an effort to not be on this when I am too tired and prone to error. Like I said this is all a learning experience for me and I learn so much on this website.

 

[Inquisitive2018]

“I’m sorry you’re so stupid you misinterpreted me.”

She’s so full of crap. IMO she meant what she said in that original post. The “You guys are kidding, right?” and “cry like a snowflake” lines make it clear. She had ample opportunity to edit her comment and apologize in the thread right away if she thought she was being misinterpreted. She didn’t, she doubled down and taunted people. It wasn’t until it went viral that she deleted anything.

From her explanation that was how I interpreted it initially to be honest, but as you said she had a chance to follow up, someone even asked her if she was being sarcastic and she responded no.

 

[CronesEye]

Yeah! Like, How do they get away with not answering these questions with certainty unless they're covering something up. You'd think they wouldn't have to since they're lucky to have CA in custody and the confirmation via text that ADR was the "brains" (for lack of a better word) behind it all. I would love to know exactly WHAT is keeping them from being honest with the family and public.

The SM page for Regimental Engineer Squadron, 3d U.S. Cavalry Regiment is laden with extremely upset comments about a negligent, derelict and possibly complicit command. I just read it, so it's not just my feelings.
We all want to know "WHAT" is keeping them from being honest. It goes beyond still under investigation. Really if they are hoping it will be forgotten, it won't.

 

[Inquisitive2018]

Who knows if AR even used a hammer, can they still determine the cause of death?
Only thimg I'll say is according to reports AR confirmed whatever CA said on the controlled call, so some accuracy, but the adultery stuff was not in the affidavit.

 

[Deleted member 718]

Idk if anyone answered, @Crones Eye.

On the right corner of every post there are choices next to "post reply". Choose "upload a file". That should bring you a link to your pictures.
Choose one and it will appear as a thumbnail.

(be careful not to be like me, I have uploaded the wrong pics before, lol)

You can also right click on the photo, choose 'copy photo' and then in the message box, right click again and choose 'paste'.

 

[CronesEye]

Idk if anyone answered, @Crones Eye.

On the right corner of every post there are choices next to "post reply". Choose "upload a file". That should bring you a link to your pictures.
Choose one and it will appear as a thumbnail.

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I am sorry for your loss if this pic is someone special to you - you have lost.
It's often why we come to websites like this, to help others, heal old wounds and make a better future.

 

[Boxer]

ARs phone pinging at the Leon River where VGs items found should have resulted in being locked up or 24 hour close guard.

If there was evidence of bleach cleaning in his armory he should have been under 24 hour close guard.

 

[Boxer]

I wonder about the items at the Leon River.
And if it was more than the hard case, she only had clothes and a phone with her.
If her clothes were seperated from her body and there is no bleach in the armory, sadly, AR may have taken VG alive to the river. AC may be A murderer as well.

 

[CronesEye]

You can also right click on the photo, choose 'copy photo' and then in the message box, right click again and choose 'paste'.

It worked.
My happy thing for today. I needed that.
I really loved being on the water in the military.
I hope women to come, can enjoy much more than I ever did.
Thank You Gliving

The Navy Is Designing Its New Subs To Be More Convenient To Women
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/navy-building-new-submarines-convenient-women

 

[Boxer]

Regarding the comment that might get Lt Col Betsy Schoeller fired, here's her apology and explanation.
The explanation is true. The apology is weak though... again someone who says they're sorry people misunderstood... blah blah....

Personal statement by Betsy Schoeller regarding the death of Specialist Vanessa Guillen

Good Old Boy Rule 2 and their camp followers

When caught immediately drown out the complaint with long winded whatever, just be careful not to accidently apologise.

 

[Satchie]

Yeah! Like, How do they get away with not answering these questions with certainty unless they're covering something up. You'd think they wouldn't have to since they're lucky to have CA in custody and the confirmation via text that ADR was the "brains" (for lack of a better word) behind it all. I would love to know exactly WHAT is keeping them from being honest with the family and public.

It's in the hands of the FBI now. CA has the right to a fair trial, which means no one can discuss the allegations as though they are proven facts. In my observation, FBI don't leak details like has been happening so far. They prefer to get a full confession, but also focus on developing as much supporting evidence as possible so there is no doubt about what happened.
MOO

 

[Boxer]

The SM page for Regimental Engineer Squadron, 3d U.S. Cavalry Regiment is laden with extremely upset comments about a negligent, derelict and possibly complicit command. I just read it, so it's not just my feelings.
We all want to know "WHAT" is keeping them from being honest. It goes beyond still under investigation. Really if they are hoping it will be forgotten, it won't.

Congress is the crowbar. Intentionally left for us citizens by the founders who had no illusions about the corruption that militaries sink into without citizen oversight.

 

[Boxer]

Idk if anyone answered, @Crones Eye.

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Heart wrenching.

 

[Laughing]

It worked.
My happy thing for today. I needed that.
I really loved being on the water in the military.
I hope women to come, can enjoy much more than I ever did.
Thank You Gliving

Love it!!!

@CronesEye , moderators are insistent that images be credited -- can you click Edit, and type in where you found the image?

Are you piloting the tug???

Thank you for your fortitude & service, Laughing

 

[Satchie]

Yes. His escape and suicide is very suspicious.
They knew he was at the River location where her items were found. That should have had him securely locked up.

I disagree, FBI wanted to convict him of murder. Being near where a body is later found will just result in a court releasing him. FBI wanted to trap him into an admission of guilt, otherwise they had no proof to charge him. Many perps are left to walk free for long periods, thinking they'll get away with it, while LE wait for proof. And some do kill themselves.

Fotis Dulos is a good example. He was prime suspect from day 1, but not arrested until months later, and then a month later killed himself while out on bail.

Lock em up and throw away the key isn't allowed.

 

[Boxer]

I disagree, FBI wanted to convict him of murder. Being near where a body is later found will just result in a court releasing him. FBI wanted to trap him into an admission of guilt, otherwise they had no proof to charge him. Many perps are left to walk free for long periods, thinking they'll get away with it, while LE wait for proof. And some do kill themselves.

Fotis Dulos is a good example. He was prime suspect from day 1, but not arrested until months later, and then a month later killed himself while out on bail.

Lock em up and throw away the key isn't allowed.

CID was in charge wasn't it? Not FBI. FBI evidence team would have processd the river scene.

 

[MassGuy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...5/vanessa-guillen-remains-identified-ft-hood/

No surprise.

Army investigators have positively identified the remains of Spc. Vanessa Guillén, her family told The Washington Post on Sunday, more than two months after she vanished from Fort Hood.
Remains discovered Tuesday in a shallow grave east of the Texas installation triggered a manhunt that ended when one suspect — Spc. Aaron Robinson — killed himself as officers closed in, the Army said.