TX - Police officer resigns after violent detention of teenage girl

[katydid23]

Do you have a reliable link for that?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/us/mckinney-texas-pool-video/

here is an interview with the girl that was detained. She said herself that a bunch of male teens jumped over the fence and crashed the party, refusing to leave.

 

[KaaBoom]

My response was not a defense of the cop but rather of the white woman who supposedly told the blacks to 'go back to section 8'. I think she most definitely had a right to be angry when a mob of unruly teens invaded her neighborhood...

:facepalm:No, the black people were residents, and their guests who were exercising their rights to use the community pool. White people do not have a right to racially harass them. No, that is not their right.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

IMO, he should not be allowed to resign-he should be fired and the da should file assault charges.

 

[Montjoy]

She also admitted to screaming profanities at the cops.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/us/mckinney-texas-pool-video/

sbm --

Oh, do you think that screaming profanities at cops -- or more likely at one cop who has already been abusing his authority -- is justification for the physical abuse he leveled on her?

What it if was you? (Now, I am hoping you won't 'cop out' (pardon the pun) and say your friends wouldn't have been in this situation -- but imagine that you saw some rogue cop, black or white, beating up and abusing some of your friends. Would you think that it would be fair for him to beat you up if you objected?)

eta -- just speaking as a man, and one trained at least as much as most cops are in martial arts, I could never, ever, imagine treating a slight and young, and unarmed, teenage girl the way that he did. But I guess my opinion is not shared by plenty of the posters here.

 

[KateB]

Police Officer in McKinney, Tex., Resigns Over Incident Caught on Video
By THE NEW YORK TIMES JUNE 9, 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/u...ex-resigns-over-incident-caught-on-video.html

The police officer seen in a video throwing a 14-year-old girl in a swimsuit to the ground and pointing his gun at other teenagers has resigned from the police force in McKinney, Tex.

Chief Greg Conley of the McKinney Police Department said during a news conference Tuesday that the officer, Eric Casebolt, had resigned while under investigation.

In the video widely distributed on social media, Officer Casebolt, who is white, is seen shouting at African-American teenagers, throwing the girl down and briefly pointing his gun at others who approached him during a disturbance at the community pool in Craig Ranch, a racially diverse subdivision north of Dallas. The officer ultimately immobilized the girl by putting her facedown on the ground and placing a knee on her back.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/us/mckinney-texas-pool-video/

I'll see if I can dig up more.

Odd, the ppl interviewed by CNN that agree with the police are AA. Some that were interviewed were at the pool, also AA. I fail to see how this situation is a black/white racial thing.

Embry disagrees...
"Let me reiterate, the neighbors or the neighborhood did not call the police because this was an African-American party or whatever the situation is," he said. "This was not a racially motivated event -- at all. This whole thing is being blown completely out of proportion."

It certainly doesn't sound racially motivated to me but it seems nowadays if an unruly bunch is of one color and the police are of a different race some automatically throw racist in to the mix. When I first saw the video I thought one of the teenage boys may have a gun since he put his hand behind his back. I think that is what spooked the officer. I can see why he resigned though and have no problem with that decision.


The guard is the one who called police because he could not control/contain all of the teenagers jumping over the fence and converging on him.

I do see what you mean and there are those in the neighborhood that do agree with this officer who they say was being surrounded by out of control teenagers.

I don't understand why these teens just didn't listen to the guard that was at the pool when he was trying to get them to stop? Whatever happened to respecting authority? If they had just done like the security guard asked them to do he wouldn't have ever called the police to begin with.


McKinney, Texas (CNN)—Benet Embry just wanted a respite from the heat when he went to his neighborhood pool Friday. Talking to CNN Monday about the national story that rolled out of that simple, mundane summer activity still has him pretty well dismayed.

The 43-year-old African-American has lived in Craig Ranch, a planned community, for eight years. It's a nice place. Racially diverse. People get along there.

 

[katydid23]

:facepalm:No, the black people were residents, and their guests who were exercising their rights to use the community pool. White people do not have a right to racially harass them. No, that is not their right.

Of course they don't. And the black teens don't have the right to hop the fence and crash the party either. The melee went on for 45 minutes BEFORE the part of the video we see here. I wonder what went on during that 45 minute period? I know security was asking some of the gate crashers to leave. Wonder why they didn't.

 

[KateB]

From the NYT post:

The Police Department has said that officers arrived at the pool around 7:15 p.m. Friday, responding to a call about a “disturbance involving multiple juveniles at the location, who do not live in the area or have permission to be there, refusing to leave.” The department, the statement added, received “several additional calls related to this incident advising that juveniles were now actively fighting.”

But Dominique Alexander, the president of the Next Generation Action Network, a civil rights group, said that the youths “had every right to be there.”

 

[Montjoy]

Of course they don't. And the black teens don't have the right to hop the fence and crash the party either. The melee went on for 45 minutes BEFORE the part of the video we see here. I wonder what went on during that 45 minute period? I know security was asking some of the gate crashers to leave. Wonder why they didn't.

Sorry, but, you're basically talking about an entirely different thread topic. What do you think about how the LEO treated that unarmed teenage girl, Katy?

eta -- do you have a link to suggest that it was only black teens entering the swimming pool? (Even though, forgive me, I know it's off-topic, but you opened the door.)

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Actually none of the cops responded appropriately. Not one of them tried to find the racist white woman who started the entire incident. Instead they started grabbing every black person they could see.

Who was the woman who called in? AAs who live in this neighborhood said the teens were out of control.

And there were several phone calls made to police.. not just one. It seems they had not only jumped the fence, ignored the pool guard's plea to stop, but they also were fighting.

several additional calls related to this incident advising that juveniles were now actively fighting.”

 

[katydid23]

sbm --

Oh, do you think that screaming profanities at cops -- or more likely at one cop who has already been abusing his authority -- is justification for the physical abuse he leveled on her?

What it if was you? (Now, I am hoping you won't 'cop out' (pardon the pun) and say your friends wouldn't have been in this situation -- but imagine that you saw some rogue cop, black or white, beating up and abusing some of your friends. Would you think that it would be fair for him to beat you up if you objected?)

eta -- just speaking as a man, and one trained at least as much as most cops are in martial arts, I could never, ever, imagine treating a slight and young, and unarmed, teenage girl the way that he did. But I guess my opinion is not shared by plenty of the posters here.

You had 12 cops answering the call about a brawl at the pool. ONE cop was over reacting. Why is it such a HUGE story. The girl was asked to leave and you see her leaving, then she turns around and comes back to the pool, AGAINST orders. Of course she was going to be detained. She could have just sat down, but refused to do so. Just like most of the teens did.

The cop was too physical for my liking, but it is not as 'horrifying' as some are trying to make it out to be.

What about the teens hopping the fence, crashing the party and refusing the security guards requests to leave? No one brings that up at all.

You asked me if I would like it if I saw a cop 'abusing' one of my friends. Of course I wouldn't. But I do not see this the same way as you do, obviously. I think he used poor judgment, but I do not think he was abusing her.

But I have had one very scary experience when my daughter was 17. Her best friend was turning 18 on Jan 1st, and she begged us to throw her a surprise party on Dec 31st. BIG MISTAKE on our part. Party started out great, with about 30 kids, all kids we knew from school. We had them playing pool, swimming, had a BBQ. Then a HUGE crowd of uninvited guests began swarming in. 100 kids that we did not even know tried to crash the party. I had to call the cops and it got very ugly. I was frightened for our safety because the party crashers would not leave and were threatening us all. So I am a bit suspicious of the party crashers and think much of the problem began with them. JMO :moo:

 

[KateB]

Statement from the McKinney Chief of Police

"As the chief of police, I want to say to our community that the actions of Casebolt, as seen on the video, of the disturbance at the community pool, are indefensible," said Chief Greg Conley, during a news conference Tuesday afternoon. "Our policies, our training, our practice, do not support these actions. He came into the call out of control, and as the video shows, was out of control during the incident."

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Mc...-Amid-Pool-Party-Investigation-306696581.html

Frankly, an out of control law enforcement officer is a big story.

 

[katydid23]

Sorry, but, you're basically talking about an entirely different thread topic. What do you think about how the LEO treated that unarmed teenage girl, Katy?

eta -- do you have a link to suggest that it was only black teens entering the swimming pool? (Even though, forgive me, I know it's off-topic, but you opened the door.)

How is it an entirely different thread topic? It is the lead up to the take down of the detained girl. It is the reason the cop was even there. It is not a different topic at all.

The girl who was detained said it was black males who were hopping the fence. Her own words.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/08/us/mckinney-texas-pool-video/

 

[KaaBoom]

Whoa there cowgirl! Who said anything about a white's only pool? That community that you're using for racism is a 50-50 black white community that gets along fine. The poop disturbers from another area come by and started crap and suddenly is all about blacks vs whites???

And please stop painting ALL COPS with a behemoth wide brush - thank you.

:facepalm: In another thread, a few days ago I predicted that a lot of posters here would come to the defense of the cops in this video. I will stop painting ALL COPS this way, when these incidents are no longer a daily occurrence. Just since this incident there was already another incident of cops in Texas smashing a bystander's camera phone and then pepper spraying him. I'm tired of hearing about how it's just a few bad apples. This happens every single day.

 

[kimlynn]

This sad incident seems to have been started by a couple of white adults telling the black teens to go back to their section 8 housing according to 'Badge Judgement'. Then escalated by the now suspended officer.

Not sure why everyone wants to always jump on teens for causing a ruckus.

Looks to me as though the adult female (blonde) is getting the best of the teen female in the fight and yet a guy that looks to be security is pointing at the teens after the altercation.
I hope the adult female will face charges as well as the out of control cop.

 

[Montjoy]

I think he used poor judgment, but I do not think he was abusing her.

rsbm --

So, are you seriously suggesting that if someone did this to you, when you had committed no crime, you would not consider this abuse?

Seriously?

eta -- have you seen the video? It's possible that some people might not survive the attack he leveled on her.

 

[katydid23]

Statement from the McKinney Chief of Police


http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Mc...-Amid-Pool-Party-Investigation-306696581.html

Frankly, an out of control law enforcement officer is a big story.

YEP. It sure is. It fits the msm narrative just perfectly. ALL of society's problems can be traced back to racist cops apparently.

 

[katydid23]

rsbm --

So, are you seriously suggesting that if someone did this to you, when you had committed no crime, you would not consider this abuse?

Seriously?

I think the cop was wrong, but so was she. She was asked to leave the premises, as everyone was asked to do. And she doubled back and returned, against the cops orders. It was not a crime, but it was going against his orders.

 

[katydid23]

:facepalm: In another thread, a few days ago I predicted that a lot of posters here would come to the defense of the cops in this video. I will stop painting ALL COPS this way, when these incidents are no longer a daily occurrence. Just since this incident there was already another incident of cops in Texas smashing a bystander's camera phone and then pepper spraying him. I'm tired of hearing about how it's just a few bad apples. This happens every single day.

Teens act out illegally every single day too. A daily occurrence. Does that mean that ALL teens are troublemakers?

 

[Montjoy]

YEP. It sure is. It fits the msm narrative just perfectly. ALL of society's problems can be traced back to racist cops apparently.

I have never suggested that this incident has anything to do with race. It may, but I'm not going to get into that, because the facts are just that this was an abusive cop. So I am hoping you're not trying to suggest that the posters here are all treating this as a social/political/racial issue. It may just be that there are too many overly aggressive, under-trained, or bad cops out there.