GUILTY TX - Sarah Walker, 40, stabbed to death in McKinney model home, 8 July 2006

[Sabal]

http://www.courier-gazette.com/articles/2006/07/28/murder_in_mckinney/mim00000.txt

 

[JBean]

http://www.courier-gazette.com/articles/2006/07/28/murder_in_mckinney/mim00000.txt

thank you!

 

[CrimeHater]

It seems like we just aren't getting any new information. From that article it doesn't sound like the police have a lot working. I'm not saying they aren't doing a good job- but they just seem stuck.

 

[close_enough]

It seems like we just aren't getting any new information. From that article it doesn't sound like the police have a lot working. I'm not saying they aren't doing a good job- but they just seem stuck.

yeah, i was hoping there would be something new on this....

 

[ANGRYWOLF]

friends/associates...If those all turn up negative/no matches then they will be truly stuck..:behindbar

 

[JBean]

friends/associates...If those all turn up negative/no matches then they will be truly stuck..:behindbar

I agree with this AW.

 

[scandi]

Believe me, the minds of those investigators are working overtime on this case. They've had problems with cases and their investigations in the recent past, so they are probably overplaying their caution, and for good reason.

They want it perfect when it goes down. And so do we, right? And we are a very hard public to please, and that is for sure! Baa Haa Haa

Scandi

 

[Bobbisangel]

I wonder if Sara had been involved with anyone that she worked with. I just find it strange that someone would just show up at that house in the middle of the day when anyone could have walked in the door at any second. If she only scheduled appts then a co-worker could have looked at her schedule at some point and would have known when people were coming to see the house and when Sara would have free time. I wonder if LE checked over her co-workers to see if any of them had cuts on their hands or arms, etc.

 

[scandi]

I'm thinking she might have had an appt with this person, or at least known they were coming by. The killer it is said, took their time. It wasn't a rush job.

Has anyone read what the normal time would be for Sarah to open the house on a regular basis? Maybe she arranged to meet this person before the open house sign went up out front. Just speaking as an ex-Realtor here! Usually you put the sign up when the house is ready to show - coffee made, all doors unlocked, etc.


Scandi

 

[JBean]

I'm thinking she might have had an appt with this person, or at least known they were coming by. The killer it is said, took their time. It wasn't a rush job.

Has anyone read what the normal time would be for Sarah to open the house on a regular basis? Maybe she arranged to meet this person before the open house sign went up out front. Just speaking as an ex-Realtor here! Usually you put the sign up when the house is ready to show - coffee made, all doors unlocked, etc.


Scandi

Hi Scandi.I think this was a model. It would have regular hours to be open typically. Usually 10 to 7.
I'll get the website link. brb.

 

[JBean]

Here we go:

Here are the hours the models are open:
5700 Conch Train
McKinney, TX 75070
HOURS: Mon-Sat 10-7, Sun 12-6


http://www.drhorton.com/corp/GetCommunity.do?dv=20&pr=43415

 

[scandi]

Thanks JBean, If she was open for business, I can't imagine the killer taking his time to do what he came for, can you? Do we know yet if he brought a knife with him. Were there knives in the kitchen do you know? Doi you think the killer came there with killing her on his mind and prepared to do just that?

Questions, questions, questions, you know how it is sweetie when we hear so little on a case! LOL



Scandi

 

[JBean]

Thanks JBean, If she was open for business, I can't imagine the killer taking his time to do what he came for, can you? Do we know yet if he brought a knife with him. Were there knives in the kitchen do you know? Doi you think the killer came there with killing her on his mind and prepared to do just that?

Questions, questions, questions, you know how it is sweetie when we hear so little on a case! LOL



Scandi

I think I remember reading back in this thread that there were no utensils in the kitchen.
Taking their time is odd, because you never know when someone will show up at a model.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I think I remember reading back in this thread that there were no utensils in the kitchen.
Taking their time is odd, because you never know when someone will show up at a model.

There weren't any utensils in the kitchen. He would have had to have brought a knife with him. Of course a lot of men carry a pocket knife with them all of the time. It really bothers me that this person wasn't in a rush.
So if the house was open during certain hours does that mean that if you were driving by and wanted to walk through the house that is what you could do. It wasn't by appt? But the couple that found Sara had an appt I'm sure.

I wonder who else Sara had shown her watch and ring to? I think she had just bought them both the night before. I wonder if she was out the night before and was showing them off. Maybe she showed them to the wrong person. Or she could have been talking to someone and they mentioned her watch and ring and as they talked she mentioned being at the house the next day and he decided to relieve her of her new jewlery. It's really a puzzle.

 

[close_enough]

hmmm, i just don't see this as the killer taking his time....the window of opportunity is about 30 minutes....they know Sarah was alive at 12:30 pm talking on the phone w/a friend, then the couple wandered in at 1:23 & found the body....Capt Randy Roland of the MPD said on Nancy Grace that "the window of opportunity for this crime is somewhere between 12:50 & 1:23 pm"....if there was a confrontation, then a struggle from room to room, & no one saw the perp leave, 30 minutes isn't a lot of time, imo......

 

[izzyB]

hmmm, i just don't see this as the killer taking his time....the window of opportunity is about 30 minutes....they know Sarah was alive at 12:30 pm talking on the phone w/a friend, then the couple wandered in at 1:23 & found the body....Capt Randy Roland of the MPD said on Nancy Grace that "the window of opportunity for this crime is somewhere between 12:50 & 1:23 pm"....if there was a confrontation, then a struggle from room to room, & no one saw the perp leave, 30 minutes isn't a lot of time, imo......

there is NO evidence of this of course, but i wonder if the killer brought a "look-out"? almost unbelieveable, but how else could the killer have taken his time? unless he/she is a "crazed" individual who was more intent on murder than on getting caught.

 

[Scout]

hmmm, i just don't see this as the killer taking his time....the window of opportunity is about 30 minutes....they know Sarah was alive at 12:30 pm talking on the phone w/a friend, then the couple wandered in at 1:23 & found the body....Capt Randy Roland of the MPD said on Nancy Grace that "the window of opportunity for this crime is somewhere between 12:50 & 1:23 pm"....if there was a confrontation, then a struggle from room to room, & no one saw the perp leave, 30 minutes isn't a lot of time, imo......

Isn't it interesting that Sarah was last known to be alive at 12:30 pm, because she was talking on the phone with a friend (an un-named friend, to be exact), yet the police set "the window of opportunity for this crime somewhere between 12:50 & 1:23 pm"? Why isn't the window from 12:30, when Sarah was last know to be alive, to 1:23, when Sarah was found deceased? Where does the 12:50 constraint come from?

I find it interesting that Randy Tate says that he pulled up in his driveway at about 12:50 and then sat in his driveway talking on his cell phone.

 

[JBean]

There weren't any utensils in the kitchen. He would have had to have brought a knife with him. Of course a lot of men carry a pocket knife with them all of the time. It really bothers me that this person wasn't in a rush.
So if the house was open during certain hours does that mean that if you were driving by and wanted to walk through the house that is what you could do. It wasn't by appt? But the couple that found Sara had an appt I'm sure.

I wonder who else Sara had shown her watch and ring to? I think she had just bought them both the night before. I wonder if she was out the night before and was showing them off. Maybe she showed them to the wrong person. Or she could have been talking to someone and they mentioned her watch and ring and as they talked she mentioned being at the house the next day and he decided to relieve her of her new jewlery. It's really a puzzle.

Typically,the models are open during the hours that i posted. Which means , yes, people driving by can go in and walk around. That is how models work, around here anyway. There are set hours. However, people usually set an appointment if they are going to write a contract, or maybe ask some specific questions of the agent because they have been there before and are coming close to purchasing.Sometimes people set an appointment to tour a production home with the agent.
This was on a Saturday, which is usually a busier day too.

 

[JBean]

Isn't it interesting that Sarah was last known to be alive at 12:30 pm, because she was talking on the phone with a friend (an un-named friend, to be exact), yet the police set "the window of opportunity for this crime somewhere between 12:50 & 1:23 pm"? Why isn't the window from 12:30, when Sarah was last know to be alive, to 1:23, when Sarah was found deceased? Where does the 12:50 constraint come from?

I find it interesting that Randy Tate says that he pulled up in his driveway at about 12:50 and then sat in his driveway talking on his cell phone.

Maybe she turned off an alarm in a house or otherwise hit some electronic device that recorded the time. Like swiping a card, or opening an electronic safe or something. So maybe she activated something at 12:50? Just guessing, i have no idea.

 

[izzyB]

Isn't it interesting that Sarah was last known to be alive at 12:30 pm, because she was talking on the phone with a friend (an un-named friend, to be exact), yet the police set "the window of opportunity for this crime somewhere between 12:50 & 1:23 pm"? Why isn't the window from 12:30, when Sarah was last know to be alive, to 1:23, when Sarah was found deceased? Where does the 12:50 constraint come from?

I find it interesting that Randy Tate says that he pulled up in his driveway at about 12:50 and then sat in his driveway talking on his cell phone.

maybe she had a 20 minute phone call, starting at 12:30 and lasting until 12:50.

i really do think that if it was her second ex, randy tate, the police would have arrested him by now b/c there has been plenty of time for the DNA forensics of the 2 blood types found at the scene to be returned.