GUILTY TX - Sarah Walker, 40, stabbed to death in McKinney model home, 8 July 2006

[close_enough]

I meant if they could collect DNA from people she knew,not necessarily people in the database.

i knew what you meant...like boyfriends, co-workers, Tate himself, clients, etc....

 

[close_enough]

well i asked about the Rolex because they cost thousands of dollars. While the article says no one knew that she had it,(except the ex-dh) that is not true. Whoever she bought it from knew she had it.

This is probably neither here nor there, but a beautiful single lady purchasing an extremely expensive watch might catch my attention if i were a bad guy. But I seem to think the police think the watch was stolen to throw off the investigation, so I am really just thinking out loud.

i agree....i think the person that killed Sarah, grabbed the ring & watch as an afterthought...they didn't kill her specifically for them..

 

[close_enough]

Izzy B. Just read the article you mentioned. Sorry, I didn't understand when I replied. Yes, it does make sense that LE might wonder if anyone has been surprised with a "gift" of a Rolex. Can't remember at the moment, but didn't LE say that maybe the killer took Walker's jewelry to make it look like a robbery? If so I would think LE would know too that since the watch contains samples of DNA, the killer would also have been smart enough not to give it to someone as a gift. Unrelated to the Rolex, a source supposedly very close to Walkers family particularly her father, claims LE told them they're "close to making an arrest." However, area journalists worry the father especially, is only being pacified as were the loved ones in the quadruple homicides. I don't know enough to have an opinion but I must believe LE is not only on top of things- but being open and honest with Walker's family. Praying for both LE and the Walker family.

right...if the person was trying to make it look like a robbery, i don't think they would be stupid enough to give it to someone as a gift....i would think that LE would be thinking on the same lines also....

maybe something's going to 'break' in the case soon....

 

[close_enough]

IMO, these are the two most significant statements in that Dallas Morning News article:






Capt. Roland misstates. Sarah's ex-husband, Randy Tate, knew of the watch and made a point of talking about it on Greta Van Susteren's show. I said before that I believe he is trying to throw the investigators off-track. This latest article bolsters my conviction. They are trying to smoke him out. Wait and see.

you do have me thinking, Scout....i would think that LE checked Tate's hands & maybe his entire body from the get-go...they have said he's cooperating, so i would think they already know if he had fresh cuts, face/head wounds or visible bruises....seems it would be very easy to rule him out as a 'real' suspect, especially if he's cooperating with any kind of blood test....
hmmmm, interesting...

 

[close_enough]

Good points. J. Bean and Scandi about the cuts removing people from the suspect list. I think an article said police found a receipt for the Rolex. I hadn't thought about it being fake, but if so, it's possible police are keeping it quiet to ferret out informaition from the public? Starting to worry a little that LE might not be able to bring this one to closure. If not, it's surely not a lack of tremendous effort but instead bad luck.

is there an article that states that Sarah actually bought the Rolex herself???...i can't remember exactly what Tate said Sarah told him about the watch....i know he said, that he thought to himself, that it was way too big/real loose..

 

[Jeana (DP)]

is there an article that states that Sarah actually bought the Rolex herself???...i can't remember exactly what Tate said Sarah told him about the watch....i know he said, that he thought to himself, that it was way too big/real loose..

Doesn't Rolex keep records when a watch is bought or sold, even second hand? I know they keep service records on every watch sold.

 

[close_enough]

Doesn't Rolex keep records when a watch is bought or sold, even second hand? I know they keep service records on every watch sold.

i found the article that states that the receipt for the watch, showed that Sarah purchased it the day before she was killed...couldn't remember if i had read that or not....

yes, i would think that when you purchase a Rolex from a reputable place, you get paperwork/records & all that....

 

[Scout]

is there an article that states that Sarah actually bought the Rolex herself???...i can't remember exactly what Tate said Sarah told him about the watch....i know he said, that he thought to himself, that it was way too big/real loose..

Here you go, close_enough.

Dallas Morning News

Searching Ms. Walker's Frisco home, police collected a Rolex box and receipt, according to the search warrant affidavit. Capt. Roland said the receipt shows that Ms. Walker purchased the watch the day before she died.

you do have me thinking, Scout....i would think that LE checked Tate's hands & maybe his entire body from the get-go...they have said he's cooperating, so i would think they already know if he had fresh cuts, face/head wounds or visible bruises....seems it would be very easy to rule him out as a 'real' suspect, especially if he's cooperating with any kind of blood test....
hmmmm, interesting...

FWIW, I'm still thinking, too. This news of a cut palm has caused me to falter. I'm still very suspicious of Randy Tate, but I need more info.

 

[close_enough]

Here you go, close_enough.

Dallas Morning News





FWIW, I'm still thinking, too. This news of a cut palm has caused me to falter. I'm still very suspicious of Randy Tate, but I need more info.

right...the news about someone else's blood being found is a plus....they either cut their finger/hand/body, during the struggle with the knife...OR Sarah could have hit the person in the face, with an object that caused bleeding...

thanks for posting the article...i thought i had read it, but couldn't remember for sure....

hoping that Nancy Grace will discuss this tonight on cnn headline news..

 

[close_enough]

i have to assume that Nancy didn't discuss this , ugh....we got home a little bit ago, so i didn't get to catch it....missed the rerun also...

 

[deannegold]

The idea about police checking DNA of friends, co-workers etc is a good one, but without probable cause, there's no reason for anyone to volunteer. Unfortunately, labs are increasingly in the news for errors. Stories of innocent people freed from prison after new DNA tests are nothing new. Although highly unlikely, imagine an innocent person wanting to be helpful and volunteering his or her DNA. Then imagine a screw-up by by the technician, detective or lab. Suddenly that person's gone from an innocent helper to suspect facing capital murder charges. nn. I would never advise one of my clients to volunteer anything to police. Too risky in an increasingly bureaucratic society. As for the Rolex and ring being stolen from Sarah's body, maybe I've missed something, but I've not read where LE has proof of that. While Captain Roland's statement is it is terribly irresponsible to state it as fact. Again unlikely, but as a former defense attorney, I wonder how does he or anyone else know that Sarah didn't buy the ring for other purposes? How does he or anyone know she wasn't just wearing it until it changed hands? You have to understand that case is being investigated by news journalists and PI's supposedly on behalf of lawyers.

 

[close_enough]

The idea about police checking DNA of friends, co-workers etc is a good one, but without probable cause, there's no reason for anyone to volunteer. Unfortunately, labs are increasingly in the news for errors. Stories of innocent people freed from prison after new DNA tests are nothing new. Although highly unlikely, imagine an innocent person wanting to be helpful and volunteering his or her DNA. Then imagine a screw-up by by the technician, detective or lab. Suddenly that person's gone from an innocent helper to suspect facing capital murder charges. nn. I would never advise one of my clients to volunteer anything to police. Too risky in an increasingly bureaucratic society. As for the Rolex and ring being stolen from Sarah's body, maybe I've missed something, but I've not read where LE has proof of that. While Captain Roland's statement is it is terribly irresponsible to state it as fact. Again unlikely, but as a former defense attorney, I wonder how does he or anyone else know that Sarah didn't buy the ring for other purposes? How does he or anyone know she wasn't just wearing it until it changed hands? You have to understand that case is being investigated by news journalists and PI's supposedly on behalf of lawyers.

i've only read what the media has put out, & that's that the Rolex was on her arm at a bank, the morning she was killed, per a 'bank video'.....correct me if i'm wrong...Tate didn't mention the ring during that first interview w/Greta; just the watch....

i understand the case "is being investigated by news journalists and PI's" for the time being....i actually wondered if the watch wasn't for someone else early on.....wish i could remember word for word what Tate said Sarah told him about the watch...the first interview he had w/Greta....i just know it 'stood out' when he said the watch was too big for her...

 

[scandi]

Hi Sweetie, LOL Close_Enough,

I remember the point he made was quite memorable, as he took his index finger from the other hand and illustrated with it just how big it was by how the band hung down below the arm.

I wondered why he was going to all the trouble to illustrate it like that. and I still wonder what was his purpose in putting it out there that she had this oversized expensive watch! :waitasec:

Scandi

 

[scandi]

:waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: Gosh, I just had a thought!!

What if she was waiting for someone 'special' to come to the house and she was giving the watch to them as a gift? Oversized band for a guy, correct? And maybe the jealous and irate 3rd party, came instead or beat him there to kill her, as I strongly believe the perp came to do her in as fast as she/he could and get out of there pronto in case a new homebuyer showed up.

Pretty daring and audacious to perform this in a small window in daylight, so there must have been anger equal to the level of that audacious act! And then it would make sense for that killer to take the watch and fling it far away into a grove of trees or water somewhere.

I'm just thinking aloud here.

JBean, you mentioned several of the stab wounds were made post mortem. I guess I missed the link that stated this, and am wondering if it also stated what kiind of knife was used - hunting, pen, kitchen or a switchblade?

Scandi

 

[partyuv5]

the only way the ex is involved is if he hired someone to do this. The spouse is damned no matter what....

you don't speak...you are guilty
you speak and tell too much...you are guilty.

I don't think her older son is guilty, but why was there no relationship between them?

 

[SewingDeb]

:waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: Gosh, I just had a thought!!

What if she was waiting for someone 'special' to come to the house and she was giving the watch to them as a gift? Oversized band for a guy, correct? And maybe the jealous and irate 3rd party, came instead or beat him there to kill her, as I strongly believe the perp came to do her in as fast as she/he could and get out of there pronto in case a new homebuyer showed up.

Pretty daring and audacious to perform this in a small window in daylight, so there must have been anger equal to the level of that audacious act! And then it would make sense for that killer to take the watch and fling it far away into a grove of trees or water somewhere.

I'm just thinking aloud here.

JBean, you mentioned several of the stab wounds were made post mortem. I guess I missed the link that stated this, and am wondering if it also stated what kiind of knife was used - hunting, pen, kitchen or a switchblade?

Scandi

Hi Scandi,

Nancy Grace covered this last night. Apparently many of the stab wounds were postmortem. Also, it appears that the perp was in no hurry and spent quite a bit of time there.

Link to transcript:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0607/25/ng.01.html

It is a lot to read, but there are lots of details.

 

[ANGRYWOLF]

dammed if you do and dammed if you don't...I do want to take some of you to task though..this isn't old home week for you to chat up your friends..we need to have a give and take discussion..so if you don't mind..I hope you will agree to do that...
I think it was a stalker. someone she met online or in a bar or club...and not an ex.....:behindbar

 

[kato]

dammed if you do and dammed if you don't...I do want to take some of you to task though..this isn't old home week for you to chat up your friends..we need to have a give and take discussion..so if you don't mind..I hope you will agree to do that...
I think it was a stalker. someone she met online or in a bar or club...and not an ex.....:behindbar

HUH? Old home week.

 

[izzyB]

dammed ..this isn't old home week for you to chat up your friends..we need to have a give and take discussion..so if you don't mind..I hope you will agree to do that...

many have posted on WS for years, and through cases have developed relationships, that might be alluded to or mentioned from time to time when advancing the discussion about a case. PLEASE respect that among posters. if you will relax you might find you will enjoy your time here. we do try to be friendly to each other most of the time and there is not a thing in the world wrong with that!!

 

[kato]

many have posted on WS for years, and through cases have developed relationships, that might be alluded to or mentioned from time to time when advancing the discussion about a case. PLEASE respect that among posters. if you will relax you might find you will enjoy your time here. we do try to be friendly to each other most of the time and there is not a thing in the world wrong with that!!

VERY well put, thanks izzy.