TX - Shooting at Dallas Love Field Airport, 10 June 2016

[katydid23]

We're on the same wave length. I typed almost the same thing as you did at the same time!

Great Minds Think Alike.

 

[Elley Mae]

9 shoots and he is a live, someone needs range time. jmo idk and yes if they had not been in a public place with armed officers she would not be here today. jmo

 

[sonjay]

Firing nine shots at a guy armed only with a rock, and shutting down an entire major airport. Only in America.:facepalm: Talk about over reaction.

Talk about misunderstanding the situation. Only in Oregon.

 

[KaaBoom]

Um, no. You are way off base. I work at an airport. I dispatch the police to such an event. They are protecting the hundreds of others that are in the vicinity. If you read the article, they were large decorative rocks which broke the victims windshield. These weren't pebbles. He kept coming at the officer, even after being wounded.

I meet many people who are having mental problems, and the officers I work with, try their best to help them. But, when it comes to making sure no innocent people are harmed, all bets are off!

As far as shutting down the airport, it wasn't shut down. Just people were re-screened as some ran into the secure area without being screened when they heard the gun shots. It caused delays in flights, but at the time, who knew if the subject was trying to create a diversion so a co-conspirator could get access to the secure area and an aircraft.

So you don’t see any thing wrong with police shooting multiple times at some guy because he threw a rock through the windshield of his girlfriend’s car, and sending hundreds of terrified travelers running through security lines to get away from the shooting? You don’t see any escalation in the matter by police responding to vandalism with bullets?

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[sonjay]

So you don&#8217;t see any thing wrong with police shooting multiple times at some guy because he threw a rock through the windshield of his girlfriend&#8217;s car, and sending hundreds of terrified travelers running through security lines to get away from the shooting? You don&#8217;t see any escalation in the matter by police responding to vandalism with bullets?

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Clearly you haven't watched the videos. You need to do that. This was a very different scenario from how you are portraying it.

 

[al66pine]

<modsnip>Does anyone think LEO at airport should have reacted like the "hundreds of terrified passengers running through security"? Would LE have been applauded for not shooting, just mixing into the crowd? Is that an option for an LEO?
Maybe passengers began scurrying off after seeing the man w rocks & saying something about shooting or killing (but conceding that gunfire exacerbated crowd reaction and more ran away from the shot fired).

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[cuffem]

Firing nine shots at a guy armed only with a rock, and shutting down an entire major airport. Only in America.:facepalm: Talk about over reaction.

How would you have handled it? A violent man with hundreds of innocents in harms way. The man was not killed and no bystanders or the victim was injured,police did their job.Maybe you let your personal views on the police shade your opinion.

 

[KaaBoom]

How would you have handled it? A violent man with hundreds of innocents in harms way. The man was not killed and no bystanders or the victim was injured,police did their job.Maybe you let your personal views on the police shade your opinion.

I have issues with LEOs who escalate a rock throwing incident, into multiple rounds being fired (seemingly indiscriminately), a suspect shot, and causing mass panic of bystanders (people can get trampled that way), and shutting down a major airport for several hours in the process.

The only reason the man wasn&#8217;t killed is because apparently the cop is an incredibly bad shot, which makes the incident even that much dangerous. Every shot that misses a suspect has got to go someplace. In a crowded airport that could be very bad.

How would I have handled it? Negotiations, taser, beanbag rounds, pepper spray, the possibilities are endless.

 

[RT51]

I have issues with LEOs who escalate a rock throwing incident, into multiple rounds being fired (seemingly indiscriminately), a suspect shot, and causing mass panic of bystanders (people can get trampled that way), and shutting down a major airport for several hours in the process.

The only reason the man wasn&#8217;t killed is because apparently the cop is an incredibly bad shot, which makes the incident even that much dangerous. Every shot that misses a suspect has got to go someplace. In a crowded airport that could be very bad.


How would I have handled it? Negotiations, taser, beanbag rounds, pepper spray, the possibilities are endless.[/QUOTe

As I said before, I work as a dispatcher of LEO at an airport. We have hundreds of cameras. After an incident such as this, part of my job is to track the perp on camera and provide video back up for evidence for the Leo's actions. When you have the possibility of innocent bystanders being injured, that is the priority.

 

[sonjay]

I have issues with LEOs who escalate a rock throwing incident, into multiple rounds being fired (seemingly indiscriminately), a suspect shot, and causing mass panic of bystanders (people can get trampled that way), and shutting down a major airport for several hours in the process.

The only reason the man wasn’t killed is because apparently the cop is an incredibly bad shot, which makes the incident even that much dangerous. Every shot that misses a suspect has got to go someplace. In a crowded airport that could be very bad.


How would I have handled it? Negotiations, taser, beanbag rounds, pepper spray, the possibilities are endless.[/QUOTe

As I said before, I work as a dispatcher of LEO at an airport. We have hundreds of cameras. After an incident such as this, part of my job is to track the perp on camera and provide video back up for evidence for the Leo's actions. When you have the possibility of innocent bystanders being injured, that is the priority.

BBM. I totally agree. Innocent people always have to take priority over violent criminals. Some people would do it the other way 'round, but that's not who we are.

 

[KaaBoom]

i have issues with leos who escalate a rock throwing incident, into multiple rounds being fired (seemingly indiscriminately), a suspect shot, and causing mass panic of bystanders (people can get trampled that way), and shutting down a major airport for several hours in the process.

The only reason the man wasn&#8217;t killed is because apparently the cop is an incredibly bad shot, which makes the incident even that much dangerous. Every shot that misses a suspect has got to go someplace. In a crowded airport that could be very bad.


How would i have handled it? Negotiations, taser, beanbag rounds, pepper spray, the possibilities are endless.

as i said before, i work as a dispatcher of leo at an airport. We have hundreds of cameras. After an incident such as this, part of my job is to track the perp on camera and provide video back up for evidence for the leo's actions. When you have the possibility of innocent bystanders being injured, that is the priority.

The problem is that the police turned that possibility of innocent bystanders being injured by a rock, into the possibility of innocent bystanders being killed by multiple police bullets, or being trampled in a stampede. They increased the danger to innocent bystanders, not decreased it. So what did they really accomplish? Until police are trained to de-escalate situations, instead of escalating them, I don&#8217;t feel safe or even comfortable, calling them. If I call the police about somebody throwing rocks, the last thing I want is a cop to show up and start shooting.

 

[sonjay]

The problem is that the police turned that possibility of innocent bystanders being injured by a rock, into the possibility of innocent bystanders being killed by multiple police bullets, or being trampled in a stampede. They increased the danger to innocent bystanders, not decreased it. So what did they really accomplish? Until police are trained to de-escalate situations, instead of escalating them, I don’t feel safe or even comfortable, calling them. If I call the police about somebody throwing rocks, the last thing I want is a cop to show up and start shooting.

The criminal is dead and the innocent bystanders are all alive. I'd say the police were successful.

 

[bluesneakers]

The criminal is dead and the innocent bystanders are all alive. I'd say the police were successful.

He died?

 

[KaaBoom]

He died?

No, he is alive. But only because the cop has terrible marksmanship.

 

[sonjay]

No, he is alive. But only because the cop has terrible marksmanship.

Oh, too bad. I thought they killed him.