Identified! TX - Smith Co, off I-20, WhtFem 20-32, 77UFTX, shirt w/ 'Top Rail Country Music, Dallas, TX', Oct'85 - Sindy Gina Crow

[Melt71]

If she was found on the south side of IH-20 which runs E-W then if she was dumped driving through Smith County that would mean coming from the Dallas side, is that correct? Googlemaps tells me Dallas/Ft Worth is 100 miles West. Sorry it's been a few years since I last drove in the US

Several times in the thread there's discussion of Terrie Lynn Hefner, missing from Dallas 1 April 1984 and thought to be travelling East to Louisiana. While it's assumed there's an automatic ruleout on DNA; it's not possible to know for sure, since we can't see if they had the same kind of test run. mpDetails

@MadMcGoo why not email and ask if there is an image of the butterfly? Can't hurt...

 

[MadMcGoo]

If she was found on the south side of IH-20 which runs E-W then if she was dumped driving through Smith County that would mean coming from the Dallas side, is that correct? Googlemaps tells me Dallas/Ft Worth is 100 miles West. Sorry it's been a few years since I last drove in the US

Several times in the thread there's discussion of Terrie Lynn Hefner, missing from Dallas 1 April 1984 and thought to be travelling East to Louisiana. While it's assumed there's an automatic ruleout on DNA; it's not possible to know for sure, since we can't see if they had the same kind of test run. mpDetails

@MadMcGoo why not email and ask if there is an image of the butterfly? Can't hurt...

I had to google the location too and I’m fairly familiar with the state LOL. It’s not where I thought it was, more off the beaten path than I expected. There were a couple of highways or interstates connecting it to larger cities. She could have been from any place, but I do think I20 is the most likely. IMO.

If I get a chance I’ll contact them, I’ve got a long list of agencies I need to contact If anyone who is in contact with the agency wants to ask, go ahead. That goes for any case I post on

 

[carbuff]

Exclusions:

Kimberly Blackburn
Toni Esbenshade
Christine Huyer
Patricia Schmidt

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Earth]

Does she have DNA?

 

[MadMcGoo]

Does she have DNA?

According to Doe Network, her DNA is “Available”...

 

[sonz82]

Debra Fardella – The Charley Project

• Debra Fardella
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  Fardella, circa 1983
  • Missing Since06/23/1983
  • Missing FromBrooklyn, New York
  • ClassificationMissing
  • SexFemale
  • RaceWhite
  • Age22 years old
  • Height and Weight5'4, 105 pounds
  • Distinguishing CharacteristicsCaucasian female. Brown hair, brown eyes. Fardella has scars on both legs. Her nickname is Debbie.
  Details of Disappearance
  Fardella was last seen at Mermaid Avenue and west 23 Street in Brooklyn, New York at 4:30 p.m. on June 23, 1983. She has never been heard from again. Few details are available in her case.
  Investigating Agency
  • New York Police Department 212-694-7781
  Source Information
  • NamUs

 

[MadMcGoo]

Found some articles on our girl. Her vital stats range quite a bit from article to article. I tried to summarize key points of each. Some things I hadn’t seen mentioned before.

UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

Clipping found in The Tyler Courier-Times published in Tyler, Texas on 10/2/1985. UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

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Believed to have been dead 3-6 months.

UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

Clipping found in Tyler Morning Telegraph published in Tyler, Texas on 10/2/1985. UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

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Believed to be a prostitute who was killed and dumped from a vehicle. Possibly related to the murder of Belinda Gale Brush, found strangled to death about 1.5 miles away from the UID in January 1985.

UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

Clipping found in Tyler Morning Telegraph published in Tyler, Texas on 10/3/1985. UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

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More clothing and evidence was unearthed during a search the day after the discovery.

UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

Clipping found in Tyler Morning Telegraph published in Tyler, Texas on 10/4/1985. UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

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She had been dead about 12-15 months. Approx. 20 years old, 5’5”-5’6”, 110-115 pounds, 27 inch waist and 38 inch chest.

UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

Clipping found in The Tyler Courier-Times published in Tyler, Texas on 3/16/1986. UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

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Forensic testing did show the woman to be possibly of Indian or Polynesian decent and that she’d been dead about 12-15 months. Tests also showed her to have been about 20-25 years old, 5’5”-5’7”, 110-125 pounds, and had reddish brown hair worn in a ponytail. No visible marks on the skull and she did not appear to have been shot. ETA: Also, they investigated the Top Rail Country Music place on the theory that she may have worked or frequented there. Apparently the lettering was fairly new and in good shape, but the owners said they hadn’t sold that type of shirt there for over 3 years.

UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

Clipping found in The Tyler Courier-Times published in Tyler, Texas on 9/14/2003. UP4491 Unidentified female 1985 TX

www.newspapers.com

She’d been dead 12-18 months, 20-25 years old, 5’3”-5’5”, 125-130 pounds, likely had brown hair and eyes.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Miriam A. Cavallo – The Charley Project

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Interesting to see that they considered the possibility of her being of Indian/Polynesian descent. I wonder how they reached that conclusion.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

I decided to do a reconstruction depicting her of South Asian/Pacific descent, in the chance that they were right.
(High quality version at https://i.imgur.com/BOcmUmL.png)

 

[Kell7H]

There is a new reconstruction on the DPS web site

 

[theshadow45]

This Jane Doe has been unidentified for 36 years today.

 

[MarziPanda]

Smith County Jane Doe 1985 - DNA Doe Project Cases

Now a DNA Doe Project case!

 

[Susikatze]

I bet she was not Indian or Polynesian...

 

[JurassicParker]

Missing Person Case (namus.gov)
Tammie Lynn Wilkinson

I'm looking for missing outside of Texas that may fit. The faces look similar. Her hair is different but that could have changed since she went missing.

 

[breachtones]

I bet she was not Indian or Polynesian...

I think she is. DNA don't lie. I myself have a Fijian/Indian mother and a Caucasian father, yet almost everyone I meet assumes I'm "fully caucasian or maybe hispanic". It'd probably be even less recognizable with this doe considering it's only "descent", usually referring to something a bit further back in the family tree.

Gotta say tho, that first recreation is downright abysmal. I'm glad Koppelman and the newest recreation came out because jeez... even by 1980s clay reconstructions that's bad. Some of these older cases badly need new reconstructions.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Idk why, but "Cathy" reminded me of this Jane Doe. I think it's the ears and chin shape. Cathy was mentioned as a possible candidate for Walker County Jane Doe 1980 before she was I'D as Sherri Jarvis.

 

[MadMcGoo]

The Doe Network has since added a photo of the butterfly I was so interested in a few years ago.

77UFTX

 

[Melt71]

Are they an Avon earring? I feel like I had a pair of these as a young girl in the very early 80s (I got my ears pierced as a 10yo in 1981).

 

[theshadow45]

Smith County Jane Doe has been unidentified for 37 years today.