TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

[Jethro4WS]

Just found this, perhaps the first time Terri Leann Strickland was on a newspaper front page, and for a sweet reason -- her first Christmas. Lower right side of page. She was someone's newborn baby.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth732862/m1/1/

That is a really great find! I would hope for her family members, her daughters, her friends,etc. that haven't seen that before that they know it is available.

 

[Jethro4WS]

The "prominent" attorney from Dallas isn't really "prominent" here. He lands on TV at times, opining on cases, but (based on my own personal observation) it's rarely if ever due to him having any inside knowledge or research, but more because he's willing to talk about any local case with any media who wants an "attorney's opinion," a go-to lawyer available to give a "legal" view for a reporter. Unfortunately that means he's willing to opine with only a cursory knowledge (or less) of cases he talks about. So if you're getting your "facts" of a case from him, it's likely to be a few facts sprinkled with mistakes and rumors and assumptions, but all offered as facts.

Are you talking about the same attorney that they were? I had gone back to read the early threads when I first got involved in looking at this case and if I recall the attorney in question was a divorce attorney of some notoriety.

 

[arkansasmimi]

Are you talking about the same attorney that they were? I had gone back to read the early threads when I first got involved in looking at this case and if I recall the attorney in question was a divorce attorney of some notoriety.

RBBM, Correct Jethro was a female, and not the same attorney that was a guest on Tricia podcast... JMHO

Edit here is a WS post, I wont post the SS showing but was fb friend to MB, then gone

05-08-2016, 02:04 PM#9 Marie A
With respect to my earlier post... just noticed that high-powered female Dallas divorce attorney KMc "de friended" MB recently because they were def FB friends after the murder. May not mean anything. Some people are just private people.
Anyone from Midlothian know if MB contacted her on a professional level or how they were connected?? http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-13&p=12536579#post12536579

 

[Dollcat]

This is absolutely correct about sociopaths. You must have worked with prisoners or otherwise known of this type personality. A wise professor once offered sage advice, by saying, "Sociopaths know before you know, about what you are thinking or planning, and, more importantly to them, is how it will affect them."

A sociopath's perception is keen. Now, I understand why you've placed the SP in the 99 percentile. Usually sociopaths are entrepreneurs and CEOs b/c they don't mind taking someone's last dollar as long as they are making money or profit from it. In fact, they may rub their hands together and slightly grin with duping delight while doing it.

You have more data today. Correct? You can modify the tip and represent or submit an updated version to the proper authorities. Correct?

I would like to know if there's a way that we can determine if the blur has been on google since it is a [custom] built.

Justice for Missy

Does anyone have the link for the blurred house? I assume it's in Tarrant county? If I re all the original post/ pic, it was either a rear or side entry house that looked a little different from the normal architecture in North Texas suburbs. So if a person doesn't want their home to pop up on Google Streetview etc, you can contact them to request it be blurred? I know in Dallas county under special circumstances, you can request your tax info (name) be private under tax appraisal records. It doesn't happen too often but on a rare occasion, I've seen this.

 

[No it's not]

Does anyone have the link for the blurred house? I assume it's in Tarrant county? If I re all the original post/ pic, it was either a rear or side entry house that looked a little different from the normal architecture in North Texas suburbs. So if a person doesn't want their home to pop up on Google Streetview etc, you can contact them to request it be blurred? I know in Dallas county under special circumstances, you can request your tax info (name) be private under tax appraisal records. It doesn't happen too often but on a rare occasion, I've seen this.

The problem with the blur is, it applies also to any historical images etc..and the blur is permanent and cannot be removed. Google claims they do not store images. So, if anyone is planning to ever list their house for sale as an example, I would not consider the blur at all. Folks like to google houses and surroundings in addition to listings. I am one of those.

-Nin

 

[No it's not]

Just found this, perhaps the first time Terri Leann Strickland was on a newspaper front page, and for a sweet reason -- her first Christmas. Lower right side of page. She was someone's newborn baby.

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth732862/m1/1/

Oh my, what a great find! Unfortunately it would not be the last time making the news..so very sad.

-Nin

 

[Cryptic]

Sociopaths have a phenomenal ability to read people and ascertain lies and in particular lies of omission (they detect or sense something else is afoot) which is coupled with a phenomenal ability to extract such information without having to resort to arguments, confrontations, threats, or violence and all without the person holding such information being aware of the manipulations (which can be quite complex) that went on to extract the "voluntary" sharing of information. On the other hand the sociopath is extremely skilled at not giving up information. Not even the slightest hint would be there since they create the reality and how those that perceive it all around them.

I think this view of all sociopaths reflects early clinical studies of sociopaths / evil individuals. There was evidently a 30 year gap between the initial studies conducted during WWII when the draft brought huge numbers of people, including a certain number of sociopaths / evil people into a controlled environment (the military) where they could be studied.

Anyways, the initial studies in the 1940s suggested that sociopaths ran the entire bell curve in regards to intelligence, cunning, personality skills etc.

But.... when the studies were resumed in the 1970s, the first sociopaths who were studied in depth were highly intelligent, cunning, and also possessed charming- though twisted personality skills. These traits then gradually became part of the definition of a 'sociopath'.

I think recent studies, however, have backed away from including these traits in the definition. Rather, sociopaths / evil people are just like ordinary people. Some are dimwitted, others are highly intelligent. Some are charming, others have limited personality skills. Likewise, though all sociopaths / evil people lie, some are far better at it than others.

 

[DeDee]

I lived in holy matrimony for too long with a NPD comorbid with sociopathy, thus, know all about their wicked potential. Common sense tells us that not all sociopaths are killers.

Regarding a link to the blur, my apologies are extended, for if we were able to find it, then others can, too. I do not feel at liberty to disclose it since the discovery was not mine. Any data garnered from the blur cannot be brought to the thread b/c this valid POI (just an opinion) is not on the SW. I spent last evening studying on FB and came away frightened by the knowledge that I've seen those eyes. Those eyes wakened me this morning. I want SP arrested and hold confidence that Jethro, whose posts are packed with information, can be instrumental in that fruition.

 

[SteveS]

Regarding a link to the blur, my apologies are extended, for if we were able to find it, then others can, too. I do not feel at liberty to disclose it since the discovery was not mine. Any data garnered from the blur cannot be brought to the thread b/c this valid POI (just an opinion) is not on the SW. I spent last evening studying on FB and came away frightened by the knowledge that I've seen those eyes. Those eyes wakened me this morning. I want SP arrested and .....

Respectfully, there are practical considerations that have to be kept in mind amid speculation. I doubt "scary eyes" and "blurry image" are enough to arrest and convict anyone, and not sure they're even evidence. Just saying.

 

[DeDee]

Respectfully, there are practical considerations that have to be kept in mind amid speculation. I doubt "scary eyes" and "blurry image" are enough to arrest and convict anyone, and not sure they're even evidence. Just saying.

You are correct.

The quoted statement below reflects my personal reaction and I've had knowledge of this particular POI since early summer. There was something new that I wasn't aware of until last night during the FB study that I conducted after my 07:49 PM post. I very seldom look at strangers' accounts on FB.

I spent last evening studying on FB and came away frightened by the knowledge that I've seen those eyes. Those eyes wakened me this morning.

 

[Amateurpi1]

Respectfully, there are practical considerations that have to be kept in mind amid speculation. I doubt "scary eyes" and "blurry image" are enough to arrest and convict anyone, and not sure they're even evidence. Just saying.

I think DeDee meant that if LE investigated this person or persons, they would find reason to arrest him, her, or them – not merely by looking at their eyes.
That being said, my POIs still are people on the SW.

 

[Oregonmama]

Poll

The suspect is...

1. A female infatuated with BB without his knowledge
2. A female involved with BB and wanted missy out of the picture
3. A female jealous of missy but was not friends with Missy or BB
4. A male infatuated with Missy unknown to her
5. A male angry that missy ended their relationship
6. A female and male love triangle
7. None of the above

 

[MizKim]

Poll

The suspect is...

1. A female infatuated with BB without his knowledge
2. A female involved with BB and wanted missy out of the picture
3. A female jealous of missy but was not friends with Missy or BB
4. A male infatuated with Missy unknown to her
5. A male angry that missy ended their relationship
6. A female and male love triangle

I think you need a none of the above option. I still tether between a stalker and Missy seeing something she should not have.

 

[Oregonmama]

I think you need an none of the above option. I still tether between a stalker and Missy seeing something she should not have.

Added it

 

[MizKim]

Poll

The suspect is...

1. A female infatuated with BB without his knowledge
2. A female involved with BB and wanted missy out of the picture
3. A female jealous of missy but was not friends with Missy or BB
4. A male infatuated with Missy unknown to her
5. A male angry that missy ended their relationship
6. A female and male love triangle
7. None of the above

Okay, I have 3 votes (hope that's okay) in this order:
4. A male infatuated with Missy
7. None of the above - Missy was murdered for something she saw/knew
3. A jealous female

 

[DeDee]

Obviously none of us know who murdered MB. By this point, in the investigation, we have developed our own favored scenario. Today, this is mine, and my opinion only, that is subject to change without further notice, but first, a few things.

1 - The white Altima is not related to the murder of MB. We may never find the driver.
2 - MBs murder is isolated and not related to other crimes such as the stolen evidence in the MSD.
3 - BB was shown footage unseen to the public. When he saw whatever we have not seen, he possibly, upon deeper reflection, recognized SP. He suspected due to a particular [professional or trained] action(s) that SP took.

• SP was not nervous then or now.
• SP wore new [waterproof] apparel.
• SP glued slightly larger false soles onto the bottom of their shoes/boots.
• SP did not drive to the CS.
• SP is not LEO or FF.
• SP has solid military experience; possibly related to search and destroy missions.
• SP has experience hunting prey that requires patience.
• SP has easy access to the Church.
• SP did not possess a key.
• SP jimmied the exterior door at the K, broke exterior windows, and fiddled with the exterior cameras at some point prior to entry.
• SP took the Perp walk around the Church's interior to ascertain precisely when/how the motion detector are activated during the search and clear mission.
• SP touching the wall was a sign of confidence.
• SP did not bring a knife to a gunfight.
• SP did not want MB to know who SP was.
• Only SP knows why MB had to die.
• The location for the murder is critical to the success of the plan and possibly part of the motive.
• SP attends Church regularly.
• SP is a heretic.
• SP acted alone.

 

[DeDee]

poll

the suspect is...

1. A female infatuated with bb without his knowledge no
2. A female involved with bb and wanted missy out of the picture no
3. A female jealous of missy but was not friends with missy or bb no
4. A male infatuated with missy unknown to her no
5. A male angry that missy ended their relationship no
6. A female and male love triangle may have been part of the motive
7. None of the above pretty much none of the above except for notes on 6

jmhoo

 

[Jethro4WS]

I think this view of all sociopaths reflects early clinical studies of sociopaths / evil individuals. There was evidently a 30 year gap between the initial studies conducted during WWII when the draft brought huge numbers of people, including a certain number of sociopaths / evil people into a controlled environment (the military) where they could be studied.

Anyways, the initial studies in the 1940s suggested that sociopaths ran the entire bell curve in regards to intelligence, cunning, personality skills etc.

But.... when the studies were resumed in the 1970s, the first sociopaths who were studied in depth were highly intelligent, cunning, and also possessed charming- though twisted personality skills. These traits then gradually became part of the definition of a 'sociopath'.

I think recent studies, however, have backed away from including these traits in the definition. Rather, sociopaths / evil people are just like ordinary people. Some are dimwitted, others are highly intelligent. Some are charming, others have limited personality skills. Likewise, though all sociopaths / evil people lie, some are far better at it than others.

Yes. I believe that someone that is a sociopath and is highly intelligent is coincidental. I believe SP is highly intelligent for other reasons but in particular how the elements of the crime at the church were carried out. I believe they are a sociopath because of the behaviors on display in the video footage we have and that no one, seemingly, has noticed someone that managed not to tip off any partner, close friend, etc. of a significant dissatisfaction with MB prior to the murder. And also showing no unexpected contempt or indifference or even signs of remorse in the aftermath that others might notice. Nor any sign of a conscience bothering them.

 

[SteveS]

Poll

The suspect is...

1. A female infatuated with BB without his knowledge
2. A female involved with BB and wanted missy out of the picture
3. A female jealous of missy but was not friends with Missy or BB
4. A male infatuated with Missy unknown to her
5. A male angry that missy ended their relationship
6. A female and male love triangle
7. None of the above

I'm somewhere between 4 and 5, perhaps, but not exactly either.

Male or female? Male
Motive? Relationship-related stuff
But more of an obsessive-possessive thing, with the fuel being "frustration of desire" rather than the strict limits of it arising from a lover's quarrel.
IOW - I can see it being any of the following
1 - a man she never was involved with, who wanted her but frustrated over feelings he could never get her
2 - a lover frustrated by the thought he held a special place that he did not (for example, she is having an affair with Mr A that is still ongoing but he becomes enraged on finding out she is also having an affair with Mr B)
3 - a lover who she broke up with, frustrated by the fact that he still wanted her but she didn't want him anymore
4 - a flirt partner she decided not to pursue, and he can't handle "no"

 

[Cryptic]

And also showing no unexpected contempt or indifference or even signs of remorse in the aftermath that others might notice. Nor any sign of a conscience bothering them.

One can have an extreme personal animosity for another person (romantic rivalry, business dispute, escalating personality conflict), and thus consider the person an "enemy", kill them without remorse and not be sociopathic .

For example, this happens everyday in Chicago, Los Angeles etc. Most of these murderers show little or no remorse towards their victims, but most are also not sociopathic in the clinical sense. This does not mean that they are warm and fuzzy type people either.

I believe they are a sociopath because of the behaviors on display in the video footage we have and that no one, seemingly, has noticed someone that managed not to tip off any partner, close friend, etc. of a significant dissatisfaction with MB prior to the murder.

I agree, this is unusual- especially in a social media driven world. At the same time, one can nurse a hatred privately and not be sociopathic by clinical definition. Also, somebody might know who the murderer is, but is simply not willing to inform police due to personal loyalty to her ( shooter appears to be a 'she').