TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

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  • #221
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/1...tor-killed-had-exchanged-flirty-messages.html

Relatives of a fitness instructor killed at a church in North Texas said it was "devastating" to learn the woman and her husband had been engaging in intimate relationships with other people, in an interview published Tuesday.

Police investigating her death announced last week that Bevers and her husband, Brandon, had "an ongoing financial and marital struggle as well as intimate/personal relationship(s) external to the marriage.


Your first para was the writer's conclusion upon reading para 2, and he cites it. However, as we've discussed here many times, the wording in para 2 - which the media writer plucked from a SW - doesn't actually support the media conclusion made in para 1. Foxnews, People, and probably several others were very sloppy in the way they related the facts here.

In fact, after finding the underlying source SW of the oft-cited partial quote in that article, to reference it here, I discovered to my surprise that it was a bit less vague than I recalled. Not only had the media miscast what that partial quote says, but in its fuller context, LE actually seems to point at MB alone as the one who was being referenced as having been unfaithful.

Here's the quote in its fuller context. Bold added.

"Throughout the course of the MURDER investigation, evidence has been recovered from electronic data extractions performed on Brandon Bevers (husband) and Ms. Bevers personal electronic devices (I phones and an I pad). This extracted information has provided officers with potential persons of interest Target Numbers based on the nature of the communications (text, messages, and recovered deleted messages) between Ms. Bevers and the above Target Numbers. A portion of these messages (as well as deleted messages) recovered indicate and confirm statement and tips provided to officers of an ongoing financial
and marital struggle as well as intimate/personal relationship(s) external to the marriage with identified Target Numbers."

https://www.scribd.com/doc/311723138/ATT-Warrant-Dated-April-25

So the things they found were in MB's communications (not in BB's too) with "Target Numbers," and also they identified that the "relationship(s)" were with those very Target Numbers. In addition, the wording mentions "relationship(s)" which means that the sum total of all the extras in that family being indicated could have been as few as one.

Working from that statement, it could be entirely satisfied by the stuff between MB and CW, for example. That would fit "relationship(s)" with Target Number that MB would have been in contact with. But it's written with some legalese vagueness to hint at more, perhaps to use that hint of "who knows how many" as a method to justify to get a wider search permission.

In the Facebook SW, LE said much the same thing - they only point at MB, and in that place link her to CW by name.

"In the course of our investigation we have had multiple references to the Decedent’s Facebook account which listed the decedent’s plans and activities for assignations with people alleged to be her lovers. Additionally we have received information from the spouse of the decedent that the decedent was having love affairs with at least one person, identified by the spouse as Casey Williams and our investigators have uncovered communications between the decedent and other persons through the Facebook private chat service specifically including Casey Williams, making arrangements to meet with the decedent."

That doesn't mean that we can say for sure what BB was (or wasn't) doing. But in these places, he's sure not being referenced by LE as being involved in outside extras. He was cheated on, his wife was murdered, and unless he was somehow involved, no justice in dogpiling him with unsupported accusations of infidelity too.
 
  • #222
Idk if he was having an affair or not, but why is WH on the search warrant?

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  • #223
Idk if he was having an affair or not, but why is WH on the search warrant?

No one here really knows if BB might have strayed, I don't think. I'm sure those closest to him have a real good idea of his life and character, but that's no one here.

As for why LE put WH on the SW, it's impossible to read LE's mind, but if it was me, I would look to see what I can find, just in case, and I can't imagine they would think any differently. You don't know what you don't know.

But looking and finding aren't the same thing. When we're talking about who actually strayed, what we know is what LE has revealed to us, about what they have FOUND. And so far, they have specifically said that MB was"having love affairs" and "making arrangements to meet" (with CW), but nothing about BB doing the same. There might even be an inference to draw from the fact they looked but haven't found, who can say? But so far, all we know is all we know, until and unless they find something different
 
  • #224
I will make the following observations.

Firstly, the only place that I have seen allegations that BB was having an affair have been on internet forums, like this one and others, or on Facebook groups or twitter by people far removed from the victim - as in they quite literally never knew her personally.

Secondly, Missy had to have had at least one good friend - it would be sad if she didn't. And yet, of all the people close to her, or even her best friend from back in Jacksboro or even her own mother we have never once heard anything from them publicly stating anything alleging "well, BB was doing it too" and naming names. Not once. What kinds of friends or family did Missy have if they are sitting on their hands letting Missy get trashed if they know full well that BB was/is carrying on his own affair?

Thirdly, even if they didn't speak out publicly to stand up for their friend/sister/daughter why would they not mention that BB was having his own affair to the police at the outset of the investigation? Surely, MPD talked to most if not all of the people closest to her. They would have known who they were at a minimum from her iPhone dumps. Clearly, it is something they would have asked her friends and her family about since the first person they look at as a suspect is the spouse. Yet, it doesn't seem to have come up at all. Anywhere. And, when MPD obtained a search warrant for his Facebook account they didn't cite any affair or relationship he was involved in but rather they cited Missy's involvement with KC. Why would that be the case, if they knew or should have known that BB was having an affair. After all BB had to have handed over both of his phones to MPD early on or surely we would have heard from MPD that BB was not cooperating. Further, I can't imagine that Missy wouldn't have saved any texts between her and BB or her and BB affair partner if Missy knew who it was or there still wouldn't have been some text messages or emails on her iphone that at least indicate that BB was involved with someone.

Lastly, the only way we wouldn't know that BB was having an affair with someone, if not have their name, is if MPD, all of Missy's friends, and all of Missy's own family were all in a big conspiracy to protect BB. And, for me, that doesn't make any sense.

While it is not rare, it is still very uncommon for it to be the situation where both spouses are having affairs simultaneously or even one spouse having an affair after the other spouse does. It really doesn't happen that way. That is not typical behavior at all. So while it is possible that this is what was going on with the Bevers there hasn't been any evidence of it that has been presented. That none of her friends have stepped forward to defend her, to me, speaks volumes.
Or, being wise, they (Missy's friends and family) have kept their mouths shut. We don't know what her friends have said or told police.

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  • #225
Idk if he was having an affair or not, but why is WH on the search warrant?

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Based on this part from the ATT warrant

based on the nature of the communications (text, messages, and recovered deleted messages) between Ms. Bevers and the above Target Numbers

It suggests the WH and MB had communications at one point or another and that text, messages, and recovered deleted messages from Missy's iPhone were of a nature that piqued MPD's interest.

One thing that I don't think some people have considered is that it is very possible that BB had told WH of MB stepping out on him. WH could very well have said something to Missy about that. It is very possible (since I don't know for sure) that WH has known BB since before BB ever met MB. And I can see someone that has known someone that long having something to say about what was going on. That doesn't mean that is what the communications were about but it is something to consider.
 
  • #226
Based on this part from the ATT warrant

based on the nature of the communications (text, messages, and recovered deleted messages) between Ms. Bevers and the above Target Numbers

It suggests the WH and MB had communications at one point or another and that text, messages, and recovered deleted messages from Missy's iPhone were of a nature that piqued MPD's interest.

One thing that I don't think some people have considered is that it is very possible that BB had told WH of MB stepping out on him. WH could very well have said something to Missy about that. It is very possible (since I don't know for sure) that WH has known BB since before BB ever met MB. And I can see someone that has known someone that long having something to say about what was going on. That doesn't mean that is what the communications were about but it is something to consider.
Well ok. Something else to consider: maybe she offed MB to spare her poor emasculated friend the embarrassment of being married to someone who was living life to the absolute maximum.


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  • #227
That's good info and will help with my list. All I really glean from the church video is total confusion. As many have pointed out perp looks feminine/masculine. I'm not positive the gait is the real gait of the perp. Perhaps an over exaggerated gait. At different parts of video perp looks dumpy, other parts slimmer/ fit. Maybe two? I do not know.


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Good point about the possibility that different camera angles can give different perspectives on movements. Even still, I think the totality suggests female, non athletic.

Another aspect that could suggest that the killer is not former military or at least not combat arms is the pacing. Especially combat arms servicemen are accustomed to waiting more than most people as their jobs often involve long periods of just watching or being ready.

I am not saying that none of these people would pace, but I think it would be more likely that such a person would clear the area to make sure he was alone, then select a vantage point where he could hear the entry of the victim. He would then just wait until he heard her arriving.
 
  • #228
Based on this part from the ATT warrant

based on the nature of the communications (text, messages, and recovered deleted messages) between Ms. Bevers and the above Target Numbers

It suggests the WH and MB had communications at one point or another and that text, messages, and recovered deleted messages from Missy's iPhone were of a nature that piqued MPD's interest.

One thing that I don't think some people have considered is that it is very possible that BB had told WH of MB stepping out on him. WH could very well have said something to Missy about that. It is very possible (since I don't know for sure) that WH has known BB since before BB ever met MB. And I can see someone that has known someone that long having something to say about what was going on. That doesn't mean that is what the communications were about but it is something to consider.

And also, both CT and AT were on the SW as well, and we don't have specific reasons for them either. Nor do we know why KC's wife is on there (we do know why KC himself was).

Perhaps LE was just trying to gather the folks who had been in most recent contact with MB electronically, without regard to the subject matter itself. Some of it may have been Recent Call History from cell phones,which wouldn't have given LE context of the conversations themselves.

LE believed in that first week that MB's killer was someone who had recently been in contact with her. Or at least that is what they asserted in a SW.
 
  • #229
Two things. Keep in mind that the very last part of the long video where SP is breaking glass is more distorted than the rest of the video there is less fish-eye correction and I am of the belief they have enlarged it somewhat and they slowed it down.

The perspective is different so the shoes/boots will look different sizes from different angles. The only way to know if they are the same is to measure them relatively against something of a known fixed size - it is why we were using door/door frames as a fixed reference.

RBBM, that part is definitely zoomed in. One must keep in mind that the portions released were for specific reasons. For hopes that the Suspect would be recognized by someone. And :) MPD has not said publicly when each section was time wise. Other than the portion that was orig released with time stamp... then later the time stamps were removed.
jmho
 
  • #230
That is incorrect. LE has stated that EACH were having relationships outside the marriage. There is media footage where they bring up that information to BB (while he is about to jump into a truck) and he then states "that's a leading questiin to try to get me to talk" look it up, it is here many times on previous threads.

RBBM,There is def a short video clip of BB. I know I have posted it a couple times. It was after he spoke to other media... and is at the MPD in parking lot. A female reporter iirc. Off hand I cant remember the question asked but BB was opening the truck door (MB Ford F150) and said that and then got into the truck. JMHO
 
  • #231
Quote Originally Posted by FelineGinger View Post
Incorrect! LE had stated that there was evidence of extra-marital affairs for EACH MB and BB. Reporter tried to question BB on that, and he flipped them off by stating "that is a leading question to try to get me to talk"

IMO Well yes BB! your family trashed MB in the public about her so called indiscretions...and here you were doing the exact same thing!! hypocrisy at its best. Each were involved with others as by that time their "marriage" had broken down. I dont believe they were living under the same roof either.

RBBM

Link please.

JMHO, I as many have spent many hours on this case. I personally again as many, prefer to stick with the facts that can be sourced. As far as I know and can remember (been a while now lol) I do not remember MPD in press conferences ever speaking of affairs by either. So, JMHO there is no link for that. I would be interested in seeing too, if there is one. Only info we get pertaining to that matter are within the SW affidavits for probable cause. And on the matter of one, or both.. it has been debated to death through out these threads.(I have my own thoughts/opinion but its just that link to proof ;) )

JMHO, as stated in the SW affidavits are not all the information on the case but enough to secure the SW (exact verbiage of that is in a few of the SW affidavits). JMHO MPD, and BB and MB and anyone involved and maybe some close would be who would know the participants of affairs. But the ATT Target # SW sound that both MB and BB had affairs. Having said that... since the release of the Sealed Facebook SWs, there is added KC into the play so that could be where the reference comes from (MB having more than one and maybe not anyone other than MB). JMHO

Also JMHO, that release of the Sealed Facebook SW (speaking of KC) and the fact that WH made post on BB Facebook during that important time frame... And KC being married to MC.. Could be why they were included on the ATT Target Numbers. ** Remember too that those are all ATT provider numbers. MB spoke/texted to others in time frame that were not included in any SW we have seen for any other providers (MT has said that MB texted her on Friday and thank her for taking BB to his medical procedure, yet we have not seen MT on any SW) Nor have we seen CW name on any SW for his phone. *He and BB both allowed their cellphones to be extracted by MPD. This info is provided in the ATT Target # SW for BB and the LinkedIn SW for CW.
 
  • #232
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/1...tor-killed-had-exchanged-flirty-messages.html

Relatives of a fitness instructor killed at a church in North Texas said it was "devastating" to learn the woman and her husband had been engaging in intimate relationships with other people, in an interview published Tuesday.

Police investigating her death announced last week that Bevers and her husband, Brandon, had "an ongoing financial and marital struggle as well as intimate/personal relationship(s) external to the marriage.

This info comes from the ATT Target # SW...
 
  • #233
That is incorrect. LE has stated that EACH were having relationships outside the marriage. There is media footage where they bring up that information to BB (while he is about to jump into a truck) and he then states "that's a leading questiin to try to get me to talk" look it up, it is here many times on previous threads.

I’m glad you brought this up because I think that clip is so bizarre…. He was giving the media interviews left and right (within 15 minutes of arriving home from MS per his first interview) and then suddenly he was defensive and would not talk to the media during that clip… I find his words odd (maybe revealing?) “trying to get me to talk.” But so much is odd with this case – and while he has the body language of someone with something to hide in most of his interviews (tightly crossed arms, neck rubbing, nose and face rubbing/touching), he seems very at ease in the interview where he is sitting and asking the perp to come forward.
 
  • #234
Or, being wise, they (Missy's friends and family) have kept their mouths shut. We don't know what her friends have said or told police.

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Agree, and MB Mother, brothers or any other family members for that matter have not spoken publicly. Only BB mother MT, sister KS half brother CT, father RB and VB his step mother on Facebook.
 
  • #235
Based on this part from the ATT warrant

based on the nature of the communications (text, messages, and recovered deleted messages) between Ms. Bevers and the above Target Numbers

It suggests the WH and MB had communications at one point or another and that text, messages, and recovered deleted messages from Missy's iPhone were of a nature that piqued MPD's interest.

One thing that I don't think some people have considered is that it is very possible that BB had told WH of MB stepping out on him. WH could very well have said something to Missy about that. It is very possible (since I don't know for sure) that WH has known BB since before BB ever met MB. And I can see someone that has known someone that long having something to say about what was going on. That doesn't mean that is what the communications were about but it is something to consider.

That ^^ coupled with the fact that WH had posted on BB Facebook on the fishing trip post and that at one time MB and WH
Facebook had been friends but at time of murder at lease they were not. **Brad passed Aug 27, 2014 http://www.beckchapels.com/services/memsol.cgi?user_id=1389674 it was a shared account prior to husband passing. And was still when MB made this post. We the public have no way to know when they unfriended came.

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  • #236
That ^^ coupled with the fact that WH had posted on BB Facebook on the fishing trip post and that at one time MB and WH
Facebook had been friends but at time of murder at lease they were not. **Brad passed Aug 27, 2014 http://www.beckchapels.com/services/memsol.cgi?user_id=1389674 it was a shared account prior to husband passing. And was still when MB made this post. We the public have no way to know when they unfriended came.

I think there may be a lot of assumptions being made about the supposed "unfriending". There are various scenarios in which someone could no longer appear on your FB, such as adjustments to privacy settings, right? So I don't think a third party can accurately tell what's going on just because it appears to them that person B is no longer on person A's friend list.
 
  • #237
I can understand if what people are saying is true is that BB had to stay over at his friend's house, BH while he was ill as it was a 2 hour and 30 minute drive from Midlothian via I-35. I mean, it's even in a different county-
Williamson County.

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  • #238
I can understand if what people are saying is true is that BB had to stay over at his friend's house, BH while he was ill as it was a 2 hour and 30 minute drive from Midlothian via I-35. I mean, it's even in a different county-
Williamson County.

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Oh dear, he died over 2 years ago.
Didn't realize it had been that long
ago.


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  • #239
I found this one. I did not author it but it is public on a search. http://server3.slideserve.co.uk/uploads/Y2016/05/09/JSUmrf5MLe/thumbs.jpg


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Just noting that on this timeline, there is no reference to WH' s post.
According to the screen shot, her post was at 7:00pm in response to Bb's earlier FB post regarding the weather.

A half hour later, BB posts the shot of the Oyster House in Mississippi
that he'd made it after a long flight.

Would still love to know if there was further communication from anybody on BB's FB once he arrived at the Oyster House at 7:30.

But, if he was "communicating" to anyone, his arrival was all they needed to know.



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  • #240
Quote Originally Posted by arkansasmimi View Post
That ^^ coupled with the fact that WH had posted on BB Facebook on the fishing trip post and that at one time MB and WH
Facebook had been friends but at time of murder at lease they were not. **Brad passed Aug 27, 2014 http://www.beckchapels.com/services/...ser_id=1389674 it was a shared account prior to husband passing. And was still when MB made this post. We the public have no way to know when they unfriended came.

I think there may be a lot of assumptions being made about the supposed "unfriending". There are various scenarios in which someone could no longer appear on your FB, such as adjustments to privacy settings, right? So I don't think a third party can accurately tell what's going on just because it appears to them that person B is no longer on person A's friend list.

respectfully between Aug 31, 2014 and April 18, 2016 Facebook has gone through many changes. JMHO, would depend on what the capabilities at that time was...Only thing I can say is they no longer showed to be friends on Facebook.
 
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