TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

[Cannonball3804]

I read this and think that there is a high probability of perp being male THEN I remember another supposed highly skilled person somewhere else enhanced the perp face and says it's a female. Back to being unsure


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IMHO, there is no way to tell by looking at the eyes (the only uncovered part of the face) that it's a female. Even LE with their much more sophisticated enhancement tools were unable to determine gender.


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[ezrah]

IMHO, there is no way to tell by looking at the eyes (the only uncovered part of the face) that it's a female. Even LE with their much more sophisticated enhancement tools were unable to determine gender.


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Could be but then I remember BatBrat concluded perp is about 5'10" and of course LE gives us max of 5'7" after help from Tarrant County doing video reconstruction. Now what? This case needs to be resolved before we all lose our minds.


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[WannaBDetective]

Just an observation but I think SP does not walk and move like a taller person. Add to it the 5'7 upper cap height (LE should be able to get this pretty accurately and I does see any reason not to be forthright). Of all the variables that is one I feel the most confident about. At some point you need to establish something.

 

[lstiff]

Hey peeps! Just checking in here, it's been a while since I have been on but was hoping for some new news. Still holding out hope that SP is arrested one day & justice for MB can be served.

 

[TexasEx]

Question for any LE people, or LE-knowledgeable people. When the police are ready to make an arrest -- all evidence in place -- do they ever wait or do they make the arrest ASAP after getting all the evidence they need?

 

[ezrah]

IMHO, there is no way to tell by looking at the eyes (the only uncovered part of the face) that it's a female. Even LE with their much more sophisticated enhancement tools were unable to determine gender.


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The other one seemed to conclude the brows were very thin. IF that is accurate then that would lean female IMO. A male could pluck their brows if they wanted them to appear feminine but they probably wouldn't want to be seen with the skinny brows later for multiple reasons...JMOO Of course they could both be correct IF by some chance 2 perps I suppose.


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[Deleted member 102539]

After the beating, the girls called police for a ride.

The chilling 911 audio is filled with laughter and profanities as the girls ask officers to fetch them from the freezing cold and take them home.
“I’ve just reported myself missing, me and my friend,” one of the girls said, giggling. “Right, I’ve just rang to let the police know where me and my are at, will you tell me how long they’re going to be? I’m … freezing and there’s loads of divvies walking past.”

The dispatcher scolded the teen for “swearing.”

“Well I’m cold,” the girl replied, laughing again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...er-to-death/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.9a7f00724d9b

In case Missy re how the perps did escape: No thought is too absurd I think.

 

[cee_]

What's your opinion on why perp seems to be systematically opening doors prior to MB arriving? Is this something a military person might do when carrying out a raid or a SWAT team? If perp is looking for something/someone I get the opening of locked doors. If perp is opening doors to know where the victim is if she escapes him/her then opening a locked door wouldn't make much sense bc the victim wouldn't be able to access that room either IMO



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Maybe the perp was wanting the footage to appear like a robbery, trying to throw LE in a different direction? It doesn't seem to have worked, but an attempt was made, IMO. If that's the case though, that means the perp knew there would be cameras recording.. hmm.


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[SteveS]

In case Missy re how the perps did escape: No thought is too absurd I think.

Not sure how any of this can be applied to MB, even in a theoretical way.

 

[Razz]

During my time out....oops I mean on my time off, I managed to listen to BB' s recorded interviews. But not all, yet. I'm in the process of doing that and arranging my notes.
Some rather interesting and fair observations so far. 😉


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[arkansasmimi]

I think they were just double checking that no one else was on the premises. If I was planning to murder someone, I certainly wouldn't want someone to unexpectedly appear out of a random room.

Clearing rooms is a common military and police tactic, but it also seems like common sense to me.

The movements from the video we have seen confuses me a bit. Why not systematically clear the rooms, then set up and wait somewhere with a window and clear view of the entrance to the parking lot? The apparent relaxed wandering around gives me the impression that they don't have training in tactical operations or they would have been moving much quicker and with purpose.



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RBBM, Other than the first clip that was shown with time stamp still attached, public does not know time the Suspect was at the various locations.. and MPD did not state in any news conference that the released video clips were in chronological order, so jmho we do not know that the Suspect was not somewhere with a window and clear view.

 

[Bootsctr]

During my time out....oops I mean on my time off, I managed to listen to BB' s recorded interviews. But not all, yet. I'm in the process of doing that and arranging my notes.
Some rather interesting and fair observations so far. ��


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Welcome back! Cannot wait to read your observations!

Interestingly enough, I was playing with my smart phone earlier, and I discovered you can schedule messages. I'm sure you were all aware of this, but it is something I have wondered about since BB told us that MB texted him she loved him every day. . .

Just how weird would it be to schedule such a message from your Significant Other to yourself without their knowledge? Would you do this to make your spouse looked like he/she loved you or would you do it so you could show someone and say see he/she loves me" and have people think it's an automated message and that's not love.

I know this is off the subject we are discussing at the moment with the perp's height, but I am curious as to how anyone might feel about automated messages of love to a Darling Husband (DH) or a Darling Wife (DW).

 

[Bootsctr]

Hey peeps! Just checking in here, it's been a while since I have been on but was hoping for some new news. Still holding out hope that SP is arrested one day & justice for MB can be served.

Good to see you! You have been missed!

RBBM, Other than the first clip that was shown with time stamp still attached, public does not know time the Suspect was at the various locations.. and MPD did not state in any news conference that the released video clips were in chronological order, so jmho we do not know that the Suspect was not somewhere with a window and clear view.

Good to see you ArkansasMimi!

Just an observation but I think SP does not walk and move like a taller person. Add to it the 5'7 upper cap height (LE should be able to get this pretty accurately and I does see any reason not to be forthright). Of all the variables that is one I feel the most confident about. At some point you need to establish something.

Agree and agree! Can't :fence: forever.

 

[MizKim]

Maybe the perp was wanting the footage to appear like a robbery, trying to throw LE in a different direction? It doesn't seem to have worked, but an attempt was made, IMO. If that's the case though, that means the perp knew there would be cameras recording.. hmm.


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bbm
IMO SP had been in the church before. Maybe not a full out casing of the church but at least a casual visit to get a general idea of what to expect.

I cant imagine they would plan the swat outfit and not at least scope out the church.

 

[Oregonmama]

I'm leaning more on the idea that the perp was a woman. I'm also not ruling out that BB was part of it or had knowledge of it. JMO

 

[Cannonball3804]

Question about the blood drive that folks have mentioned was held at the church. Was it inside the building, or was it a bloodmobile-in-the-parking-lot setup?


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[Oregonmama]

Even though it's the holidays, the time for observing various ppl in this case is great. Ppl let their guard down more at this time and I'm hoping LE will be watching. Holidays equals more romance. I'll leave it at that

 

[No it's not]

Well, I thought I remembered it was the Sunday before MB's murder on Monday, so I went to the CoC public website and looked at the bulletins here: http://www.churchofchristmidlothian.org/#/media/2016-bulletins

The bulletin on Sunday, April 17th mentions nothing about a blood drive. Will be back to post if I see something about the blood drive being in the parking lot or inside.

Wondering if it was Carter Blood care mobile unit?

Yes Carter Blood Care mobile units in the C church parking lot:

4/17-2016 Bulletin, first page
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3g3DEap84xwWnB4MDlZWUlwNmc/view?usp=sharing

 

[No it's not]

Question about the blood drive that folks have mentioned was held at the church. Was it inside the building, or was it a bloodmobile-in-the-parking-lot setup?


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Carter Blood Care mobile units outside in the parking lot.

-Nin

 

[Mistree]

Even though it's the holidays, the time for observing various ppl in this case is great. Ppl let their guard down more at this time and I'm hoping LE will be watching. Holidays equals more romance. I'll leave it at that

Amen to that👀