TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #37

[LovelyB]

Well, the woman I'm speaking of is front and center facing BB while he is thanking everyone. She appears to be a fellow CG trainer and not one of the campers. I saw her twice in the video: hugging BB and then again looking up at him while he is tearfully giving his thanks. She also appeared in a pic from the race they held for Missy. It wasn't a long video.

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Is there a link to the video?


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[Jethro4WS]

Well, the woman I'm speaking of is front and center facing BB while he is thanking everyone. She appears to be a fellow CG trainer and not one of the campers. I saw her twice in the video: hugging BB and then again looking up at him while he is tearfully giving his thanks. She also appeared in a pic from the race they held for Missy. It wasn't a long video.

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In that case, then no. Nothing to do with CG in any way.

 

[Razz]

You think this person is involved ?


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No. I was just wondering who she was.

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[Razz]

Is there a link to the video?


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Never mind. Sorry.

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[kmoon]

In that case, then no. Nothing to do with CG in any way.

What is your thought connected to?


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[Jethro4WS]

What is your thought connected to?


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The short version is that I have a particular POI and it is not someone that is named in any search warrant. I believe that the person responsible for murdering Missy is someone that is very closely connected to her, in the closest circle of friends. I could very well be wrong.

 

[kmoon]

The short version is that I have a particular POI and it is not someone that is named in any search warrant. I believe that the person responsible for murdering Missy is someone that is very closely connected to her, in the closest circle of friends. I could very well be wrong.

Male or female?


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[Jethro4WS]

Male or female?


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I am convinced the killer is male. This would be the spouse of someone close to Missy.

 

[kmoon]

I am convinced the killer is male. This would be the spouse of someone close to Missy.

Do you have a person in mind or just generally speaking?.. I have no clue. I flip flop hourly


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[Jethro4WS]

Do you have a person in mind or just generally speaking?.. I have no clue. I flip flop hourly


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A specific person. I have been settled on this person since about the 15th of May. There are only 2 things that would make me go looking for someone else. The first is if Missy was not killed in the South hallway of the church at or near the entrance to the Library. The second is if Missy was not shot first. We haven't been told either of those two pieces of information.

 

[kmoon]

A specific person. I have been settled on this person since about the 15th of May. There are only 2 things that would make me go looking for someone else. The first is if Missy was not killed in the South hallway of the church at or near the entrance to the Library. The second is if Missy was not shot first. We haven't been told either of those two pieces of information.

I'm so confused and intrigued


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[ezrah]

I'm sorry...I don't quite "get it".

BB posted Bible verses on his FB after MBs murder. At the time it was unclear if he was choosing them or if they were being automatically generated from an application he was using. In other words if he was choosing them it might give some insight as to his frame of mind at that time. JMOO


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[Cannonball3804]

The Bible app has the entire bible and readings płans, etc. and also a "verse of the day feature." The whole purpose of my original post was the verses on BB's FB from that app weren't posted without him doing it or someone else on his account. You have to choose to share a post via whichever social media site you choose. JMO You can download the app and see, it's free..

If you wouldn't mind, please use the "Reply with Quote" so that the person's post to whom you're replying will be included. Makes it a whole lot easier for others to follow the context of what you're saying. Thanks!


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[kmoon]

A specific person. I have been settled on this person since about the 15th of May. There are only 2 things that would make me go looking for someone else. The first is if Missy was not killed in the South hallway of the church at or near the entrance to the Library. The second is if Missy was not shot first. We haven't been told either of those two pieces of information.

What would the hallway have to do with who it was??


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[SteveS]

There are only 2 things that would make me go looking for someone else. The first is if Missy was not killed in the South hallway of the church at or near the entrance to the Library. .

From what we've been told, that's the wrong location. Per LE she was killed near (or perhaps in) the West hallway, and also in SW corner of the interior. (And I think we get into "speculate anything, know nothing" territory when we start dismissing what LE says.)

But to me the precise location wouldn't have any way to be a defining limiter in the identity of the killer anyhow. Care to explain why you think the library somehow makes it "definitely must be X" who could not have done it anywhere else in the building?

 

[SteveS]

Well that is just it. There should have been some data trail. In order to send a message in LinkedIN you have to have an account and the software running linked in needs to route that message from your message store to the receivers message store. They have to track that, log it somewhere. There isn't magic to the process so MPD should have been able to obtain a list of all the accounts that sent messages to Missy's account. It can't be impossible to find. The friend said that Missy didn't recognize the name of the who the person was that sent it so they could eliminate people that she had back and forth conversations. It would almost seem, based on Missy not recognizing it that it was a one-off message and that should be apparent in the LinkedIN server side data and isolating the sender wouldn't be hard.

That is the trouble I have with that explanation.

I understand your explanation. I know what LinkedIn is and have been "invited" to join by many, but have never wanted to use it so don't know its details. My assumption is that there is some way to do something anonymously, or create a "fake" profile if you want to mask your identity while you peruse the site's info and perhaps leave notes, as well as a way to delete messages or notes or (fake) identities.

Since I don't use the site, I can't do the following with any expertise. But if you are quite familiar with the site and use it a lot, think of the possibilities from the mind of whoever sent the message. If you were wanting to try to do something without being identified, what would you do, and could your activity be covered up later? I'm thinking there might be definite possibilities, if that is what we set out to do.

 

[Cannonball3804]

I understand your explanation. I know what LinkedIn is and have been "invited" to join by many, but have never wanted to use it so don't know its details. My assumption is that there is some way to do something anonymously, or create a "fake" profile if you want to mask your identity while you peruse the site's info and perhaps leave notes, as well as a way to delete messages or notes or (fake) identities.

Since I don't use the site, I can't do the following with any expertise. But if you are quite familiar with the site and use it a lot, think of the possibilities from the mind of whoever sent the message. If you were wanting to try to do something without being identified, what would you do, and could your activity be covered up later? I'm thinking there might be definite possibilities, if that is what we set out to do.

I haven't studied it in much detail yet, but here is a PDF from LinkedIn that covers their guidelines for LE to request data.

https://help.linkedin.com/ci/fattac...aw_Enforcement_Guidelines_11_15_2015_9C7C.pdf

I did note they say they do NOT accept requests from LE to identify a member based upon IP address. LE basically has to give LinkedIn either the person's name or their LinkedIn profile URL in order to obtain records from LinkedIn about that account.

Now if memory serves, the only LinkedIn SW in this case is the one for CW, correct? LE never sought a SW for MB's LinkedIn? I only recall SWs for her FB and her cell phone.

Which leads me to this: if LE thought that the creepy message was anyone other than CW, then surely they would have pursued other LinkedIn SWs besides just CW, right? So either they had compelling evidence that the creepy message was actually CW, or else they really dropped the ball not pursuing it further.


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[Cannonball3804]

I haven't studied it in much detail yet, but here is a PDF from LinkedIn that covers their guidelines for LE to request data.

https://help.linkedin.com/ci/fattac...aw_Enforcement_Guidelines_11_15_2015_9C7C.pdf

I did note they say they do NOT accept requests from LE to identify a member based upon IP address. LE basically has to give LinkedIn either the person's name or their LinkedIn profile URL in order to obtain records from LinkedIn about that account.

Now if memory serves, the only LinkedIn SW in this case is the one for CW, correct? LE never sought a SW for MB's LinkedIn? I only recall SWs for her FB and her cell phone.

Which leads me to this: if LE thought that the creepy message was anyone other than CW, then surely they would have pursued other LinkedIn SWs besides just CW, right? So either they had compelling evidence that the creepy message was actually CW, or else they really dropped the ball not pursuing it further.


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Note section 6 which says:

6. How long does LinkedIn retain Member data?
LinkedIn generally does not retain a copy of information from a Member’s profile page once the information has been revised or removed by the Member. Other categories of data relating to Member accounts, such as account log-in history, are subject to automated deletion cycles after a defined retention period. Additionally, in the normal course, if a Member closes his or her account, we promptly delete or de-personalize information from that account, generally within 20 to 30 days of account closure. LinkedIn cannot recover Invitations or Messages once they are permanently deleted by a Member, and cannot recreate evidence of Connections that have been severed."

I find it a little confusing. So if a member deletes his account, info about that account is deleted from server within 20-30 days. But then it goes on to say Messages can't be recovered after they are "permanently deleted by a member."

So what do they mean by permanently deleted? Is that referring to the closing of an account, or does it refer to any time a member deletes a message in general? I think it means the latter - that once a message is deleted, it's gone. Period.

Now here is a caveat. In LinkedIn when you delete a message, it goes into a Trash folder. If you accidentally delete it, then you can go restore it from Trash to your Inbox. Very much like most email programs. I assume that based on your settings, the Trash is emptied when you log out. At that point it is permanently gone and cannot be recovered.

There is also an Archive feature which takes the message out of your Inbox but retains it elsewhere without deleting it.

http://www.qotd.me/how-to-recover-a-deleted-message-on-linkedin/


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[Razz]

A specific person. I have been settled on this person since about the 15th of May. There are only 2 things that would make me go looking for someone else. The first is if Missy was not killed in the South hallway of the church at or near the entrance to the Library. The second is if Missy was not shot first. We haven't been told either of those two pieces of information.

If I was the perp (the one you are suggesting) I would definitely be perusing the WS site. Not necessarily posting but if this POI is as smart as you say, I would think they'd be keeping an eye on developments. It must be obvious who the POI is to someone who reads here and was close to Missy.

Are you aware of any movement by your POI? I believe you said you did more than just send the police a tip.
Any indication they are taking your tip seriously? If not, maybe it's time to reconnect with them.

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[lonetraveler]

It's obvious there was marital problems between MB and BB and yes I think, jmo, that BB was unfaithful too. The only difference is that his life is not under the public microscope. In the beginning I thought that the indiscretion on MB's side played the main role in her murder but I'm now leaning on the another side even if the other party had no direct knowledge of it. I understand that LE said the love triangle didn't produce anything but I still think it played a role and someone took it one step further. Some ppl might think it was just coincidence that BB was out of town that fateful morning but that fishing trip played a part in the murder. It could have happened any day but it happened when he was away. That part can't be written off..... MOO

I share your thoughts but I'm also considering that someone may have felt that MB needed to be punished for how (in their minds), she had not been there for BB and the children and had put all her time into her work. Add this to MB infidelity and someone may have timed the punishment to coincide when BB was on the trip. Probably thought BB would be better off without her.

Of course I also entertain the thought that it could have been a coordinated plan conspired by more than one or two people.

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