TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #39

[ocgrad]

Yes, she just stopped going to the gym, which everyone said was very odd. Here is a segment from the Nancy Grace show where they speak with the gym owner:

"NANCY GRACE: Now, let me understand this, Justin. Missy goes to this gym practically every day for three straight years. But suddenly, she quits cold turkey two weeks before she is murdered. Do I have my facts straight?

JUSTIN FREIMAN, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: You do. And they also say she was acting a bit differently the weeks prior to her murder.

NANCY GRACE: You know, when you`re with somebody every day for three years, you get to know them. And she was extremely dedicated, right, Justin? I mean, she didn`t go in and hop on the treadmill for 25 minutes and cut out. She did the weights. She talked to the owner. She became friends with the owner. She was a fixture in this gym. But with no explanation, she quits cold turkey. She acts very unusual. And then she`s murdered. What about it, Justin?

JUSTIN FREIMAN: That`s right. And she is dedicated to fitness, so it does seem odd that a gym that she`s going to so often, she just stopped going.

NANCY GRACE: Joining me right now is the owner of the gym. Mr. Garcia, what was your reaction when you learned she had been murdered?

MARC GARCIA, GYM MANAGER: Nancy, I was distraught. I mean, I immediately started crying. And my initial reaction was to think that it wasn`t true. I started praying. I was praying to God that it was all just a horrible rumor. And I called Missy, I texted her, I Facebook messaged her. I didn`t hear anything. And then the rumors just kept coming in, and then finally, someone says, yes, it was Missy and -- and I was just heartbroken."

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"NANCY GRACE: But let`s look at this. This gym she went to religiously day and night every day, practically, for three straight years -- I mean, Robyn, it leads one to speculate, was there something or someone at that gym? I`m not talking about the owner that has joined us and spoken very openly. I`m talking about some other guy there, some gym rat there. She didn`t want to go there anymore. Something was making her uncomfortable. Something made her not want to go back anymore. Then she`s dead. It leads me to speculate and question, was there someone disturbing her through this gym, either somebody else that went there, somebody that was following her, somebody that kept hitting on her, somebody that got too familiar with her?"

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1605/11/ng.01.html

And in another interview Marc Garcia said, "I feel like someone was after her."

 

[Mistree]

And in another interview Marc Garcia said, "I feel like someone was after her."

Do u have a link for that interview you are quoting?

 

[cujenn81]

Here is the raw NBC Dallas Ft Worth video of the CC church taken on the April 18th, 12.31pm. It gives a good dimensional impression of the church and the surrounding area/parking space:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/midlothian-church-raw_Dallas-Fort-Worth-376091081.html

It also shows the crime scene tape, by the way.

-Nin

The smaller details (like MB's trunk being left open because she was in the middle of unloading equipment) are what always get me the most. They are so chilling to me because those little run of the mill, everyday average details make everything seem very real. They remind me that it could have been anyone; it could have been me.


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[ocgrad]

Do u have a link for that interview you are quoting?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsn...exas-church-murder-victim-terri-missy-bevers/
Does this work?

 

[No it's not]

Here is a frame from the SWFA video. You can see the CC church in the upper left corner:



As a reference, this is the view from google maps showing the almost identical perspective ( slightly different angle) in daytime:



-Nin

 

[ocgrad]

Here is a frame from the SWFA video. You can see the CC church in the upper left corner:



As a reference, this is the view from google maps showing the almost identical perspective ( slightly different angle) in daytime:



-Nin

Did you notice a light flash at the church at the 1.08? I guess it could be a reflection of a car going by. Any other ideas what that could be?

 

[wgram]

I had not even once thought of this possibility yet it seems a real possibility SP decided to duck out off 287 as if reaching the chosen destination. Perhaps some of the time spent there was just to make sure that vehicle wasn't looking for them....brilliant work! Makes me think!

This is going to sound crazy, but could the activity at SWFA be a diversion on camera for when the police seek video from them.Could there be something/someone at the church that isn't being caught or focused on? Just thinking.

 

[DeDee]

If SP is driving into the SWFA parking lot after "going dark" then continues around the parking lot flashing off and on the car lights until SP pulls under a pole light near the CKMH.
The car entered and departed with a RT turn out onto CKMH within a 7:45 minute time frame.

What was the intent and purpose of the Altima's driver? Was this a plant of some kind? Hello. Here is this Nissan Altima (2010-2012); watch it carefully as it oddly hangs out in SWFA for seven minutes only two short hours before a brutal murder occurs across the street at the Church.

Why would SP have no qualms with being seen, albeit, well-covered, on CCTV at both places on the same morning? This bothers me greatly.

Maybe the Altima went to a chop shop directly after the crime is why a driver never stepped forward. Every city with a history of reported stolen vehicles has chop shops.

 

[roadrunnermt]

I personally think SP has LE/military background and is 100% confident they are well covered almost like a narcissist. Perhaps in a taunting/bragging manner.

I wonder if the SWFA trip was part of SPs plan to make this seem like robbery gone wrong. Maybe SP wants us to believe he planned to break into SWFA, saw cameras, and broke into the church instead. Or maybe SP did plan to park there but once he saw the cameras and vehicles parked in back he changed his mind and parked at the church instead.

If SP is driving into the SWFA parking lot after "going dark" then continues around the parking lot flashing off and on the car lights until SP pulls under a pole light near the CKMH.
The car entered and departed with a RT turn out onto CKMH within a 7:45 minute time frame.

What was the intent and purpose of the Altima's driver? Was this a plant of some kind? Hello. Here is this Nissan Altima (2010-2012); watch it carefully as it oddly hangs out in SWFA for seven minutes only two short hours before a brutal murder occurs across the street at the Church.

Why would SP have no qualms with being seen, albeit, well-covered, on CCTV at both places on the same morning? This bothers me greatly.

Maybe the Altima went to a chop shop directly after the crime is why a driver never stepped forward. Every city with a history of reported stolen vehicles has chop shops.

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[Jethro4WS]

This is going to sound crazy, but could the activity at SWFA be a diversion on camera for when the police seek video from them.Could there be something/someone at the church that isn't being caught or focused on? Just thinking.

It doesn't sound crazy. For those that subscribe to some variation on the staged burglary to hide a murder theory we have SP in the church making sure they were seen doing things to intentionally misdirect investigators. If the Altima is involved it clearly is following the same pattern of making sure it is seen with misdirecting behavior. I am sure there are other misdirections that we are not aware of because we have either not seen it since we don't have all video of either location or it is something at the church not caught on any camera (like inside the kitchen or any other room) that SP did.

In some ways it would be like having a two-sided jigsaw puzzle where the pictures on each side are not quite identical but very close so it isn't obvious which side of which piece goes where in the puzzle when you are putting it together. Made harder because you have neither picture to work from so you don't even know what the finished puzzle looks like.

MPD has all of the pieces to assemble the puzzle and complete the picture. However, I doubt they have really bothered too much in actually trying to complete it. I say that because often times the police are just acting as arms of the prosecutor in that they need not be concerned with everything that went on but rather just certain specific things that are all that are necessary to prove statutory elements of a criminal act in order to convict. And the problem is they still don't have a suspect and the only way they will get to (or at least towards) a suspect is to complete the entire puzzle in my opinion.

It is my belief that the biggest clue to SP's identity is who could conceive of, plan, and then execute the plan that led to Missy's death. Whoever possesses that intelligence, determination, confidence, and discipline, and wherewithal to do this from A to Z.

 

[Cannonball3804]

IfWhy would SP have no qualms with being seen, albeit, well-covered, on CCTV at both places on the same morning? This bothers me greatly.

For the same reason that the Wal-Mart carjackers had no qualms about being seen on camera at a church getting out of a Versa, walking over to a Wal-Mart where they're on camera again, and carjacking somebody in broad daylight.

They think that MPD isn't good enough to catch them. And so far, they've been right.

 

[No it's not]

Did you notice a light flash at the church at the 1.08? I guess it could be a reflection of a car going by. Any other ideas what that could be?

A tree top in front of one of the light poles moving in the wind perhaps?

-Nin

 

[Peachykeen]

SBM for focus...

I've kept this theory in the back of my brain since this crime happened. I know it's not a popular theory here, but it's one of only a few that seem plausible to me. I just can't figure out how SP could have fled the scene fast enough without being seen on camera or by an arriving camper. IIRC, one camper got there rather early, and shortly after MB did, but waited in the car until it was almost time for the class to start. Shouldn't this person have seen someone fleeing? IDK. I just can't wrap my head around how the SP came and went without being detected.


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Well, if you consider the SP arrived at the church unnoticed (by any video I am aware of), he/she certainly could have left unnoticed. SP could have waited for the camper to go inside, then fled&#8230;. Course camper could have been sitting in car checking emails, Facebook..Etc. and did not notice and SP could have just left IMO

 

[Peachykeen]

Here is the raw NBC Dallas Ft Worth video of the CC church taken on the April 18th, 12.31pm. It gives a good dimensional impression of the church and the surrounding area/parking space:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/midlothian-church-raw_Dallas-Fort-Worth-376091081.html

It also shows the crime scene tape, by the way.

-Nin

If SP was parked at the church, where do you think he was parked?

 

[Peachykeen]

After reading for a while, can someone please fill me in on the silly string theories? I am lost and do not understand. Thank you in advance.

 

[nearsouth]

A tree top in front of one of the light poles moving in the wind perhaps?

-Nin

I looked at this last night and compared it to a daytime video ('the attempted vehicle break in') and google street etc, and that light is coming directly from the church portico area. At least it's a light in the direct line from what I can tell.


I had never noticed this until it was brought up last night by ocgrad. I suppose it could be something else, but it sure looks like a light being shown onto that part of the church somewhere. It's pretty brief - I'd love to see extended video from that camera...


I'm also curious about the apparent wrecker truck that goes south and then again north on 287 that the camera gets in 2 parts. This was brought up some in this thread already, and it certainly looks like the same light pattern to me. What are the odds at that time of night and the timing?

 

[rotary_dial]

After reading for a while, can someone please fill me in on the silly string theories? I am lost and do not understand. Thank you in advance.

I've haven't caught up, but someone mentioned spray paint ting cameras if they didn't want to be seen. I mentioned that Silly String works better to block cameras. It has nothing to do with this case.

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[Amateurpi1]

Does anyone know if there are any search warrants for this case that are under seal? I know we've discussed the possibility but wondered if anyone knows if any actually exist or whether or not that's something that can be found out (at least on a local LE level - not necessarily any of the other LE agencies involved. TIA.

 

[liz b.]

For the same reason that the Wal-Mart carjackers had no qualms about being seen on camera at a church getting out of a Versa, walking over to a Wal-Mart where they're on camera again, and carjacking somebody in broad daylight.

They think that MPD isn't good enough to catch them. And so far, they've been right.

Why do you think they got dropped off to steal a car ? did the person who dropped them off know ? was it a gang initiation ?

 

[liz b.]

It doesn't sound crazy. For those that subscribe to some variation on the staged burglary to hide a murder theory we have SP in the church making sure they were seen doing things to intentionally misdirect investigators. If the Altima is involved it clearly is following the same pattern of making sure it is seen with misdirecting behavior. I am sure there are other misdirections that we are not aware of because we have either not seen it since we don't have all video of either location or it is something at the church not caught on any camera (like inside the kitchen or any other room) that SP did.

In some ways it would be like having a two-sided jigsaw puzzle where the pictures on each side are not quite identical but very close so it isn't obvious which side of which piece goes where in the puzzle when you are putting it together. Made harder because you have neither picture to work from so you don't even know what the finished puzzle looks like.

MPD has all of the pieces to assemble the puzzle and complete the picture. However, I doubt they have really bothered too much in actually trying to complete it. I say that because often times the police are just acting as arms of the prosecutor in that they need not be concerned with everything that went on but rather just certain specific things that are all that are necessary to prove statutory elements of a criminal act in order to convict. And the problem is they still don't have a suspect and the only way they will get to (or at least towards) a suspect is to complete the entire puzzle in my opinion.

It is my belief that the biggest clue to SP's identity is who could conceive of, plan, and then execute the plan that led to Missy's death. Whoever possesses that intelligence, determination, confidence, and discipline, and wherewithal to do this from A to Z.

Agree, the totality of the crime paints a picture of one or more people who planned this like it was a military operation. Who would want MB disappeared ?