TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #40

[kmoon]

Has anyone be able to determine from these pics at the memorial if MB's side of the family are in attendance?

There is a pic of Brandon sitting- young girl to left in orange shirt, older lady to left of girl in black a I THINK that is mother (just from looking at older family pics early on). Hope allowed- just from my previous looking - no source.


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[No it's not]

on the killer's glove photo I posted earlier -I was thinking it was an emblem on the glove and some thought it was a reflection...but after studying more screen captures from the MPD video - I don't think it's an emblem...and it would be odd for it to be a reflection only on a portion of the glove. I now think it's a tactical type glove with a knuckle protector, and I think the knuckle protector section is what is reflecting.

Here's an example:

Yes, you are right on. The gloves seem to have some kind of (reflective) knuckels. They can be seen here:


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[LostOldUserName]

Yes, you are right on. The gloves seem to have some kind of (reflective) knuckels. They can be seen here:


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Could it be the "white saran paper box" ?

 

[No it's not]

As a learning curve, here is the optical illusion looking like SO is carrying a tool in his right hand.This lasts over several frames:

-Nin

 

[Razz]

I've never seen or heard of knuckle protector gloves. Sounds like something you would not be able to find at a costume store.

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[No it's not]

Yes, you are right on. The gloves seem to have some kind of (reflective) knuckels. They can be seen here:


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One more pic :

 

[No it's not]

I've never seen or heard of knuckle protector gloves. Sounds like something you would not be able to find at a costume store.

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My thought as well. This is a thorougly thought out appearance. It looks like SP had planned it out in every detail. Emphasis on "had planned it out".

-Nin

 

[No it's not]

Could it be the "white saran paper box" ?

No. If you watch the video - slow it down to .25 - go to the last scene, the 'breaking scene', and compare the dimensions of object *saran wrap-kitchen bags-ziplock-surveillance cam (;-)* to those of SP's hand.

-Nin

 

[iluvmua]

I don't know why ppl still think this family has anything to do with this when MPD has come out and cleared them.

IF it was a family member I would think that MPD would have arrested them by now.

As far as I know, the only time I heard MPD say someone was cleared was the person most recently mentioned--initials LV (not sure of first initial).

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/20/...are-suspects-in-murder-of-fitness-instructor/

http://www.midlothianmirror.com/news/20161011/investigation-continues-six-months-after-bevers-death

 

[Razz]

My thought as well. This is a thorougly thought out appearance. It looks like SP had planned it out in every detail. Emphasis on "had planned it out".

-Nin

I just looked these gloves up. They are expensive. When someone retires from a PD, are they required to give back their uniforms. Especially those on a SWAT team.
I suspect all that equipment would be owned by the PD.

Either this was well planned, or that's what the perp had and that's why SP is wearing them. Why would someone need knuckle protector gloves to kill a woman?

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[Razz]

I don't know why ppl still think this family has anything to do with this when MPD has come out and cleared them.

IF it was a family member I would think that MPD would have arrested them by now.

Jmo

It's not personal. There are way to many red flags (for me anyway) not to at least consider BB as being complicit.

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[No it's not]

I don't know why ppl still think this family has anything to do with this when MPD has come out and cleared them.

IF it was a family member I would think that MPD would have arrested them by now.

Jmo

Generally speaking, if a family member was indirectly involved, they would have to find the link first, so that the individual would hopefully roll on the family member.

We had the Sievers case here in Florida. Husband allegedly hires best friend from out of state to kill his wife. Killer(s) were tipped in by out of state witness. Best friend sings like a domestic canary for plea deal. Husband is singing unhappy tunes behind bars now and waiting for trial.

We had the same silence with PD and press. GJ was convening. Not saying this is happening here. It would just be the possible sequence of events unfolding.

-Nin

 

[Dollcat]

I just looked these gloves up. They are expensive. When someone retires from a PD, are they required to give back their uniforms. Especially those on a SWAT team.
I suspect all that equipment would be owned by the PD.

Either this was well planned, or that's what the perp had and that's why SP is wearing them. Why would someone need knuckle protector gloves to kill a woman?

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Over the past few years here in the Dallas area , there have been vehicle burglaries of LE vehicles where bulletproof vests, badges, uniforms and even GUNS have been stolen.. Thus has happened both to LE owned vehicles as well as their personal vehicles so who knows where this stuff ends up? Pretty sure it's not being sold at garage sales.

 

[WannaBDetective]

I don't know why ppl still think this family has anything to do with this when MPD has come out and cleared them.

IF it was a family member I would think that MPD would have arrested them by now.

Jmo

MPD has gone from everybody is a POI to nobody is a POI. And I think this is a reaction to that. What was old is now new.

 

[rodee34]

I don't know why ppl still think this family has anything to do with this when MPD has come out and cleared them.

IF it was a family member I would think that MPD would have arrested them by now.



Jmo

If you are referring to my comment about who was with BB on the fishing trip, I was not insinuating he (or they) had anything to do with the murder. I'm sure his buddy could collaborate his whereabouts and drive him back to be with his kids. I would HOPE someone would be with him. I can't imagine being in that state of mind and driving.

That being said... No one is off the radar for me just yet. The main reason is we only know 95% of the sifted facts.

 

[Jethro4WS]

I just looked these gloves up. They are expensive. When someone retires from a PD, are they required to give back their uniforms. Especially those on a SWAT team.
I suspect all that equipment would be owned by the PD.

Either this was well planned, or that's what the perp had and that's why SP is wearing them. Why would someone need knuckle protector gloves to kill a woman?

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I have long believed that between the gear and tools SP had about $2500 to $3000 (and maybe more) into this crime. From all appearances this gear looks new. I also suspect that, since I believe this was planned that all of this was purchased in cash, likely at a gun show (or several) or in another state. I don't believe that SP improvised any part of this crime.

SP came prepared. Those gloves were mitigating some perceived risk(s), making it evident to me that SP considered and accounted for contingencies that may arise in accomplishing the desired goal.

To me, factors like this, especially in combination, should narrow to potential suspect pool.

 

[Jethro4WS]

MPD has gone from everybody is a POI to nobody is a POI. And I think this is a reaction to that. What was old is now new.

Yes. In truth, just like MPD has done, it is sometimes necessary to go back to the beginning and re-examine and re-evaluate.

 

[TexasEx]

Best friend sings like a domestic canary for plea deal.

-Nin

I know this is all serious and grim business, but this phrase tickled me.

 

[Oregonmama]

I googled up gloves such as the ones in previous posts and this is one store's description (Weapons Universe)

"SAP gloves are a self defense weapon which helps to improve your punching power and also protects your wrist and forearm. Almost similar to the effectiveness of brass knuckles, these weighted knuckle gloves reinforce your fist with steel shot inside the knuckle area. They are an ordinary looking glove that you can wear casually in plain sight without causing suspicion, but secretly have eight ounces of steel shot sewn into the top of the hand and knuckles. Only at Weapons Universe can you find such a big selection, with a variety of different sizes and styles, including standard, fingerless, tactical, and kevlar sap gloves, all with guaranteed lowest prices, not to mention we are one of the few companies that offer a medium size sap glove, which is hard to find."

 

[Razz]

I have long believed that between the gear and tools SP had about $2500 to $3000 (and maybe more) into this crime. From all appearances this gear looks new. I also suspect that, since I believe this was planned that all of this was purchased in cash, likely at a gun show (or several) or in another state. I don't believe that SP improvised any part of this crime.

SP came prepared. Those gloves were mitigating some perceived risk(s), making it evident to me that SP considered and accounted for contingencies that may arise in accomplishing the desired goal.

To me, factors like this, especially in combination, should narrow to potential suspect pool.

But why spend so much money for a one time deal? If this were my husband or wife, I'd be really ticked at this particular expenditure. And certainly someone somewhere recalls selling these particular
items to someone. I can't even imagine the conversation that would have transpired over this acquisition with the seller or with a spouse. This is an incredibly strange suspect you have in mind.
If what you believe is true, I think this person enjoyed the planning as much as the murder. What will be his next expedition? What can he plan next that would top this?

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