TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

[lonewanderer]

I appreciate what you’re getting at, but I don’t think your experience as a man is reflective of Missy’s, mine, or any other woman that happens to be reading this. If my daily routine were dictated by how safe I felt in my environment, I’d never leave the house. My subconscious is a never ending news ticker of violence against women and missing girls. It never subsides. All we can do is lull ourselves into a false sense of security with Ring notifications, neighborhood apps, pepper spray, etc. No one is going to pay my bills if I live like a recluse, and I’m sure Missy felt the same.

I was bullied, harassed, phone-stalked, cyber-stalked, received death threats from, and had my car vandalized by an older man during my senior year of high school.

I fully understand what its like to not feel safe at your own home and spending more time at relatives home you rarely visit, making sure you are always around a lot of people, and avoiding being alone in places you may be attacked at.

Having said all that (with my experiences in mind) if I felt unsafe in Missy's shoes (no matter if I was in her body or mine) I would have not stepped foot into that church alone. I would have waited for the other cars to show up, and may have intentionally ran a little late to ensure I wasn't the first one there. I would have done all I could to avoid being there alone.

 

[lydiafaithfull]

I was bullied, harassed, phone-stalked, cyber-stalked, received death threats from, and had my car vandalized by an older man during my senior year of high school.

I fully understand what its like to not feel safe at your own home and spending more time at relatives home you rarely visit, making sure you are always around a lot of people, and avoiding being alone in places you may be attacked at.

Having said all that (with my experiences in mind) if I felt unsafe in Missy's shoes (no matter if I was in her body or mine) I would have not stepped foot into that church alone. I would have waited for the other cars to show up, and may have intentionally ran a little late to ensure I wasn't the first one there. I would have done all I could to avoid being there alone.

Sorry, I didn’t mean to suggest that you are unfamiliar with fear. You don’t need to qualify your opinion with lived experience, though I do appreciate it. Looks like we have a lot in common. I suppose my point is that even when I’m actively being threatened, I wake up every morning and roll the dice because I have no other choice. And maybe this isn’t fair to say, but I’m inclined to believe that women in Texas are expected to maintain a stiff upper lip and not be ruled by fear.

 

[Sherlock1842]

No I'm being sincere. I love words that enhance my vocabulary. Or are you saying the poster or the police were? All good either way.

I was trying to be funny, sometimes my attempts land sideways…or not at all unfortunately.

 

[Mandala]

Very frustrating case. So many questions and no answers. I don’t think this was a burglary gone wrong. Missy was targeted.

 

[AppleTreeGreen]

Sorry if this was mentioned before, but thinking along the lines that Missy Bevers was targeted, I wonder if LE was able to estimate or determine how many people were aware that the church didn’t have an alarm system and that its outdoor surveillance cameras were not working? Perhaps such information may have or could possibly narrow down or identify potential POIs? Or if there are records or patrons and/or employees who can recall or detail if the church had received any inquiries or complaints about their security systems or noticed people circling around/scoping the building a few times before Missy Bevers’ horrific murder?

I also wonder how many people in Missy Bevers’ in social circle and beyond were aware that she had a gun? How many were aware that she preferred to keep it in the car? Is the awareness that she had a gun a possible the reason the perp wore tactical gear for just in case? If so, what are some plausible reasons that LE think the perp would come by this information and/or the information about the church’s security system?

Who Killed Missy Bevers? Husband, Daughters Desperate for Answers Nearly 3 Years Later

The husband and daughters of a woman who was killed inside a Texas church are hoping that killer isn't still walking around.

www.insideedition.com

8 things we know about Missy Bevers' murder

A local mother of three was found murdered inside a church Monday morning. While details are limited, here is what we know so far:

www.kvue.com

 

[FromGermany1]

Sorry if this was mentioned before, but thinking along the lines that Missy Bevers was targeted, I wonder if LE was able to estimate or determine how many people were aware that the church didn’t have an alarm system and that its outdoor surveillance cameras were not working? Perhaps such information may have or could possibly narrow down or identify potential POIs? Or if there are records or patrons and/or employees who can recall or detail if the church had received any inquiries or complaints about their security systems or noticed people circling around/scoping the building a few times before Missy Bevers’ horrific murder?

I also wonder how many people in Missy Bevers’ in social circle and beyond were aware that she had a gun? How many were aware that she preferred to keep it in the car? Is the awareness that she had a gun a possible the reason the perp wore tactical gear for just in case? If so, what are some plausible reasons that LE think the perp would come by this information and/or the information about the church’s security system?

Who Killed Missy Bevers? Husband, Daughters Desperate for Answers Nearly 3 Years Later

The husband and daughters of a woman who was killed inside a Texas church are hoping that killer isn't still walking around.

www.insideedition.com

8 things we know about Missy Bevers' murder

A local mother of three was found murdered inside a church Monday morning. While details are limited, here is what we know so far:

www.kvue.com

Missy's pistol and killer SP's tactic gear as a connection does make a lot of sense! It would also point to "targeted". IMO

 

[somequestions]

I think knowing about the autopsy results would help narrow down whether or not this was a burglary gone wrong or a targeted murder made to look like a burglary. If Missy Bevers was only shot, then I think that would make more sense if it was a burglary interrupted. How many times was Missy shot if she was shot? However, if Missy Bevers was physically assaulted with some instrument, I think that points more towards a targeted murder.

None of it makes any sense even if she was only shot. The burglar/murderer is wearing a disguise. Tight workout outfit would make it rather easy to tell if Missy was armed or not with a gun. Did Missy have her phone on her? Other than Missy being shot by someone who is so frightened that even with a disguise they think somehow Missy Bevers could identify them, then it seems to me to be a targeted murder.

In a video I watched of a professional burglar, they said that having light tennis shoes is very important so you can move if you need to. In the Creekside Church burglary video, the burglar is wearing boots. In other burglar videos of other crimes, the burglar seems to go directly to the area where the money is located. But in the video of the Creekside Church burglary, that person walks around casually opening doors like they have no idea what they are looking for. Did the burglar know they were on surveillance camera? Did the burglar pretend to be walking around opening doors to make it appear on surveillance camera that they have never been to Creekside Church before?

It is sort of sad that to this day we do not know if this crime was a burglary interrupted or a calculated murder.

 

[lonewanderer]

I think knowing about the autopsy results would help narrow down whether or not this was a burglary gone wrong or a targeted murder made to look like a burglary. If Missy Bevers was only shot, then I think that would make more sense if it was a burglary interrupted. How many times was Missy shot if she was shot? However, if Missy Bevers was physically assaulted with some instrument, I think that points more towards a targeted murder.

None of it makes any sense even if she was only shot. The burglar/murderer is wearing a disguise. Tight workout outfit would make it rather easy to tell if Missy was armed or not with a gun. Did Missy have her phone on her? Other than Missy being shot by someone who is so frightened that even with a disguise they think somehow Missy Bevers could identify them, then it seems to me to be a targeted murder.

In a video I watched of a professional burglar, they said that having light tennis shoes is very important so you can move if you need to. In the Creekside Church burglary video, the burglar is wearing boots. In other burglar videos of other crimes, the burglar seems to go directly to the area where the money is located. But in the video of the Creekside Church burglary, that person walks around casually opening doors like they have no idea what they are looking for. Did the burglar know they were on surveillance camera? Did the burglar pretend to be walking around opening doors to make it appear on surveillance camera that they have never been to Creekside Church before?

It is sort of sad that to this day we do not know if this crime was a burglary interrupted or a calculated murder.

I read official reports before that all of her electronics where in her truck (assuming she didn’t have a secret device the perp may or may not have wanted…possible even wanted back)

 

[Zapoleon]

I think knowing about the autopsy results would help narrow down whether or not this was a burglary gone wrong or a targeted murder made to look like a burglary. If Missy Bevers was only shot, then I think that would make more sense if it was a burglary interrupted. How many times was Missy shot if she was shot? However, if Missy Bevers was physically assaulted with some instrument, I think that points more towards a targeted murder.

None of it makes any sense even if she was only shot. The burglar/murderer is wearing a disguise. Tight workout outfit would make it rather easy to tell if Missy was armed or not with a gun. Did Missy have her phone on her? Other than Missy being shot by someone who is so frightened that even with a disguise they think somehow Missy Bevers could identify them, then it seems to me to be a targeted murder.

In a video I watched of a professional burglar, they said that having light tennis shoes is very important so you can move if you need to. In the Creekside Church burglary video, the burglar is wearing boots. In other burglar videos of other crimes, the burglar seems to go directly to the area where the money is located. But in the video of the Creekside Church burglary, that person walks around casually opening doors like they have no idea what they are looking for. Did the burglar know they were on surveillance camera? Did the burglar pretend to be walking around opening doors to make it appear on surveillance camera that they have never been to Creekside Church before?

It is sort of sad that to this day we do not know if this crime was a burglary interrupted or a calculated murder.

IMO I think those stores the car was seen sitting around earlier on was his intended target but that he got spooked when he noticed people had already arrived into work that early in the morning.

To get to those stores he had to drive past the church. Odd if his target was missy that he drove past that hit site and went somewhere else first.

Probably annoyed he could not target those stores he drove past the church and perhaps in a split second decision decided to try his luck there than leave completely empty handed.

To me the way they walk a round I think it largely displays frustration, boredom and annoyance. They are finding nothing of value. When missy interrupts them i think all that adds up and probably in a rage they kill her. jmo.

 

[SteveS]

I think knowing about the autopsy results would help narrow down whether or not this was a burglary gone wrong or a targeted murder made to look like a burglary. If Missy Bevers was only shot, then I think that would make more sense if it was a burglary interrupted. How many times was Missy shot if she was shot? However, if Missy Bevers was physically assaulted with some instrument, I think that points more towards a targeted murder.

None of it makes any sense even if she was only shot. The burglar/murderer is wearing a disguise. Tight workout outfit would make it rather easy to tell if Missy was armed or not with a gun. Did Missy have her phone on her? Other than Missy being shot by someone who is so frightened that even with a disguise they think somehow Missy Bevers could identify them, then it seems to me to be a targeted murder.

In a video I watched of a professional burglar, they said that having light tennis shoes is very important so you can move if you need to. In the Creekside Church burglary video, the burglar is wearing boots. In other burglar videos of other crimes, the burglar seems to go directly to the area where the money is located. But in the video of the Creekside Church burglary, that person walks around casually opening doors like they have no idea what they are looking for. Did the burglar know they were on surveillance camera? Did the burglar pretend to be walking around opening doors to make it appear on surveillance camera that they have never been to Creekside Church before?

It is sort of sad that to this day we do not know if this crime was a burglary interrupted or a calculated murder.

"It is sort of sad that to this day we do not know if this crime was a burglary interrupted or a calculated murder." -- Very true. We have no "defining" information to tell us the intent of the loser perp when they entered the building. Everything that happened can be taken in any number of ways.

Your point about the autopsy info (or really, just the details of the murder wounds etc) perhaps being indicative of intent is a good one. But there must be nothing there. LE has had that info from about day 2 and has been proceeding with whatever knowledge that provides. If there was some indicator of intent within the wounds, they could say with confidence that this MUST HAVE been someone who knew MB, from the nature of the way she was killed, and please help us find someone who had a reason to kill her in a brutal rage. They have not.

Instead from the outset, they themselves never have been sure whether she was targeted or not. Initially they did say they were pursuing the targeted idea, but obviously that's where you start because that angle offers defined investigative possibilities (ie you can search for someone who knew MB, and further for someone who wanted her dead, rather than randomly searching everyone in the world). But after initially saying they thought it could be someone who targeted her, they backed off and said they didn't really know. Then they came up dry on investigating people who might have targeted MB, which might hint that it had to be just a "wrong place, wrong time" thing somehow. If so, with no actual connection, that will be a tough loser to find. But to your point, they HAVE THE FULL AUTOPSY since the first few days, know all the wounds, and there's apparently nothing within them to be an indicator of intent.

There's also been info shared by someone who had verified knowledge, in these WS discussions many moons ago, that the family considered having an open casket funeral service for her, because the damage to her was NOT so extensive. That to me is further confirmation of the idea that the autopsy (or nature of the wounds) was not some sort of overkill showing anger and rage that had been unleashed.

So I suspect (though we don't have enough data to rule out other possibilities for certain) that in line with the FBI report and the statements by local LE, she was killed by being shot several times in the head and chest area.

 

[Zapoleon]

"It is sort of sad that to this day we do not know if this crime was a burglary interrupted or a calculated murder." -- Very true. We have no "defining" information to tell us the intent of the loser perp when they entered the building. Everything that happened can be taken in any number of ways.

Your point about the autopsy info (or really, just the details of the murder wounds etc) perhaps being indicative of intent is a good one. But there must be nothing there. LE has had that info from about day 2 and has been proceeding with whatever knowledge that provides. If there was some indicator of intent within the wounds, they could say with confidence that this MUST HAVE been someone who knew MB, from the nature of the way she was killed, and please help us find someone who had a reason to kill her in a brutal rage. They have not.

Instead from the outset, they themselves never have been sure whether she was targeted or not. Initially they did say they were pursuing the targeted idea, but obviously that's where you start because that angle offers defined investigative possibilities (ie you can search for someone who knew MB, and further for someone who wanted her dead, rather than randomly searching everyone in the world). But after initially saying they thought it could be someone who targeted her, they backed off and said they didn't really know. Then they came up dry on investigating people who might have targeted MB, which might hint that it had to be just a "wrong place, wrong time" thing somehow. If so, with no actual connection, that will be a tough loser to find. But to your point, they HAVE THE FULL AUTOPSY since the first few days, know all the wounds, and there's apparently nothing within them to be an indicator of intent.

There's also been info shared by someone who had verified knowledge, in these WS discussions many moons ago, that the family considered having an open casket funeral service for her, because the damage to her was NOT so extensive. That to me is further confirmation of the idea that the autopsy (or nature of the wounds) was not some sort of overkill showing anger and rage that had been unleashed.

So I suspect (though we don't have enough data to rule out other possibilities for certain) that in line with the FBI report and the statements by local LE, she was killed by being shot several times in the head and chest area.

Interesting I had never seen or heard that little info about the family and an open casket before. That does tell us a lot.

 

[arielilane]

So I suspect (though we don't have enough data to rule out other possibilities for certain) that in line with the FBI report and the statements by local LE, she was killed by being shot several times in the head and chest area.

rsbm

Please kindly prove a link. Ive not read any of this and would like to read up about it. TIA

 

[dotr]

Could damage from bullets also be considered 'puncture' wounds?

Docs: Church murder victim received "creepy" LinkedIn message

New search warrants detail communications Terri "Missy" Bevers received over cell phones and LinkedIn before her death

www.cbsnews.com

''Previous police documents revealed the mother of three died of multiple puncture wounds to her head and her chest at the Creekside Church in Midlothian on April 18.''

Latest Warrants in Missy Bevers Death Investigation Reveal Financial, Marital Struggles and a ‘Creepy' Message

Three search warrants released Thursday in the Missy Bevers murder case reveal she was facing financial difficulty and marital discord and that in the days before her murder she had received a “creepy and strange” message from an unknown man on LinkedIn.

www.nbcdfw.com

''In another warrant, detectives said a friend of the victim's told them that less than three days before her murder Bevers showed her a private message on her LinkedIn account from a person neither of them knew that they both agreed was "creepy and strange." During her interview with police, the friend could not recall the name of the person who sent Bevers the message.''

''She died of multiple puncture wounds to the head and chest, police said on Tuesday.''

 

[Zapoleon]

Could damage from bullets also be considered 'puncture' wounds?

Docs: Church murder victim received "creepy" LinkedIn message

New search warrants detail communications Terri "Missy" Bevers received over cell phones and LinkedIn before her death

www.cbsnews.com

''Previous police documents revealed the mother of three died of multiple puncture wounds to her head and her chest at the Creekside Church in Midlothian on April 18.''

Latest Warrants in Missy Bevers Death Investigation Reveal Financial, Marital Struggles and a ‘Creepy' Message

Three search warrants released Thursday in the Missy Bevers murder case reveal she was facing financial difficulty and marital discord and that in the days before her murder she had received a “creepy and strange” message from an unknown man on LinkedIn.

www.nbcdfw.com

''In another warrant, detectives said a friend of the victim's told them that less than three days before her murder Bevers showed her a private message on her LinkedIn account from a person neither of them knew that they both agreed was "creepy and strange." During her interview with the police, the friend could not recall the name of the person who sent Bevers the message.''

''She died of multiple puncture wounds to the head and chest, police said on Tuesday.''

Yes bullet wounds could defo be described as puncture wounds. The thing that confused me though according to the police reports is it says something along the lines from my memory so not exactly correct but something like "the puncture wounds are consistant with the tools the perp was seen walking through the building with on CCTV." That doesnt really make it sound like she was killed by a gun. Makes it seem more like some kind of struggle.

And also of course the hammer was found next to her body.

 

[dotr]

Yes bullet wounds could defo be described as puncture wounds. The thing that confused me though according to the police reports is it says something along the lines from my memory so not exactly correct but something like "the puncture wounds are consistant with the tools the perp was seen walking through the building with on CCTV." That doesnt really make it sound like she was killed by a gun. Makes it seem more like some kind of struggle.

And also of course the hammer was found next to her body.

rbbm
'Her suspected assailant was also seen on surveillance video walking the hallways of the church early that morning, using a hammer to break windows, while wearing a helmet and tactical gear. Bevers' wounds were "consistent with tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building," documents said.'

Docs: Church murder victim received "creepy" LinkedIn message

New search warrants detail communications Terri "Missy" Bevers received over cell phones and LinkedIn before her death

www.cbsnews.com

 

[atomicsciencegal]

Yes bullet wounds could defo be described as puncture wounds. The thing that confused me though according to the police reports is it says something along the lines from my memory so not exactly correct but something like "the puncture wounds are consistant with the tools the perp was seen walking through the building with on CCTV." That doesnt really make it sound like she was killed by a gun. Makes it seem more like some kind of struggle.

And also of course the hammer was found next to her body.

We know she was shot and that is why she died.That combined with the ‘puncture wounds’ and the comment about the perps tools make me believe that she was shot and killed, and the perp then used the tool to remove the bullet from her body.

 

[somequestions]

"It is sort of sad that to this day we do not know if this crime was a burglary interrupted or a calculated murder." -- Very true. We have no "defining" information to tell us the intent of the loser perp when they entered the building. Everything that happened can be taken in any number of ways.

Your point about the autopsy info (or really, just the details of the murder wounds etc) perhaps being indicative of intent is a good one. But there must be nothing there. LE has had that info from about day 2 and has been proceeding with whatever knowledge that provides. If there was some indicator of intent within the wounds, they could say with confidence that this MUST HAVE been someone who knew MB, from the nature of the way she was killed, and please help us find someone who had a reason to kill her in a brutal rage. They have not.

Instead from the outset, they themselves never have been sure whether she was targeted or not. Initially they did say they were pursuing the targeted idea, but obviously that's where you start because that angle offers defined investigative possibilities (ie you can search for someone who knew MB, and further for someone who wanted her dead, rather than randomly searching everyone in the world). But after initially saying they thought it could be someone who targeted her, they backed off and said they didn't really know. Then they came up dry on investigating people who might have targeted MB, which might hint that it had to be just a "wrong place, wrong time" thing somehow. If so, with no actual connection, that will be a tough loser to find. But to your point, they HAVE THE FULL AUTOPSY since the first few days, know all the wounds, and there's apparently nothing within them to be an indicator of intent.

There's also been info shared by someone who had verified knowledge, in these WS discussions many moons ago, that the family considered having an open casket funeral service for her, because the damage to her was NOT so extensive. That to me is further confirmation of the idea that the autopsy (or nature of the wounds) was not some sort of overkill showing anger and rage that had been unleashed.

So I suspect (though we don't have enough data to rule out other possibilities for certain) that in line with the FBI report and the statements by local LE, she was killed by being shot several times in the head and chest area.

If the autopsy information does not matter in determining a likely motive, then it would be nice if the information was released to the public. Was Missy Bevers hit with an object like the pickax hammer seen on video or was she shot to death or both?

The main clue in this case is the police uniform costume worn by the burglar. In the Creekside Church surveillance video at one point the burglar seems to look directly at the camera. If you went into Creekside Church and pretended to be the burglar, would you notice the surveillance cameras located throughout the church?

I think the answer is likely yes. This is my opinion. This is very important because it means that even in the course of committing a murder, the criminal would have to know that they were recorded. If they knew they were being recorded while burglarizing the church, then what is the motive for murdering someone with no cell phone and no weapon on them?

There will always remain the possibility it is a novice burglar who got scared and thought maybe Missy might get their license plate number once they left. Maybe for this reason they shot Missy Bevers or possibly got into a struggle with Missy Bevers and used the pickax hammer? This is why till this day it is hard to determine whether this was a burglary interrupted or a calculated murder. There needs to be more information.

 

[ilovewings]

I am watching the terrible horrific story of the murder of Missy Beavers for the first time - I was just wondering if there was any ever info that her husband was having an affair. The reason I ask that is because there is a case where a wife was murdered- the wife was the target of the very obsessed woman who was having an affair with the victim's husband. The murderer's name was Shawna Nelson- the husband was Ignacio (something- cannot recall his last name) and the victim was Heather.

 

[tlcya]

49 threads and still we have no idea who ended this woman's life. If I remember right the victim was alleged to have been in an extra marital affair and the Bevers were reportedly having marital problems.

Bevers Was Allegedly Having Marital Problems Before Murder

in addition Missy was reported to have recieved "creepy" messages via linkdin from a male

https://www.texomashomepage.com/news/creepy-message-and-marital-woes-proceeded-beavers-death/

So in addition to her husband there was at least one alleged lover, anyone who may have been married to or in a committed relationship with that lover, and a strange man who messaged her in the days before her murder who LE had to sift through as possible suspects.

 

[Chypre]

Is there DNA evidence?