TX TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, killed in church/suspect in SWAT gear, Midlothian, 18 Apr 2016 #49

[RobertCatesby]

One of the worst possible motives I have ever thought of was one of the campers taking Missy’s life simply so they would not have to come to the early morning workouts.

I have wondered if there was any campers who were more or less mandated to be there by a husband who insisted they lose weight or get divorced.

Was there any campers who were not accounted for that morning either?

Were any of the campers a woman, married to or in a relationship with another woman who may have been jealous of or suspicious of Missy?

This or something similar, while obviously quite unlikely, is indeed fairly plausible and has been discussed before. In Tom Webster's video on the case, he brought up a similar theory and one point that the killer could have been a camper who had been shamed by Missy for being being lazy during the sessions, or, like you stated, wasn't a fan of the 5 AM start times. It that case, it wouldn't really make sense to use the whole tactical getup instead of something similar, but that really applies regardless of the motive.

 

[FromGermany1]

One of the worst possible motives I have ever thought of was one of the campers taking Missy’s life simply so they would not have to come to the early morning workouts.

I have wondered if there was any campers who were more or less mandated to be there by a husband who insisted they lose weight or get divorced.

Was there any campers who were not accounted for that morning either?

Were any of the campers a woman, married to or in a relationship with another woman who may have been jealous of or suspicious of Missy?

bbm

 

[FromGermany1]

I thought that the timing worked out such that the first early arrival would have shown up AFTER she was killed. I thought it was very SOON after, but after.

In fact, I remember thinking that it was so soon after that I thought it was a miracle that the perp was able to escape unseen by whoever arrived first. Which also made me speculate that possibly the killer could have quickly changed clothes, put them into a gym bag, put on workout clothes, and joined the group of exercisers as they arrived, blending in as one of them. But I don't think this was targeted at Missy, so I don't think much of that theory.

Same thoughts here, but with a difference: I believe, Missy was targeted. Or was it Camp Gladiator, who was targeted?? - Have there ever been changes in the Gladiator system after this murder? Locations, training times, participating members (who is entitled when and where to participate), something like that?

 

[squareandrabbet]

I don’t buy the LARP theory for a number of reasons, but there is some theories I’ve heard that could put that person there for other reasons and not targeting Missy, such as the sporting goods store being the perps actual target but going to the church after being scared off by cars in the parking lot.

If there was no real accountability of who was there and who wasn’t there for the camp, this opens up a lot of possibilities. Very interesting.

But the person isn't a cop or security guard (that we know of yet), so if not a LARPing scenario, why the costume?... the costume is disturbing.

IMO, this gives us a Golden State Killer escalating type of scenario no matter how we slice it, as most people who dress up like a security guard would be doing so to blend in; and if you're trying to blend in it seems you would like to get your business over with as soon as possible so you can get on back to your hidey-hole and shed your costume.

So in order to be this casual, IMO the person would have to have been practiced at it; and we haven't heard anything about people in the neighboring community being suspicious of or terrorized by a figure in security gear using it to creepy-crawl all over town yet/before... s/he doesn't seem scared; and to know confidently that being tracked around the church isn't a problem, I would think you would have to be familiar with the church at minimum, and familiar with creeping around like a creep for overarching purposes; so the idea that someone would be all "I think I'll give up the sporting goods store and switch to a church!", still takes some guts on their part.

 

[lonewanderer]

But the person isn't a cop or security guard (that we know of yet), so if not a LARPing scenario, why the costume?... the costume is disturbing.

IMO, this gives us a Golden State Killer escalating type of scenario no matter how we slice it, as most people who dress up like a security guard would be doing so to blend in; and if you're trying to blend in it seems you would like to get your business over with as soon as possible so you can get on back to your hidey-hole and shed your costume.

So in order to be this casual, IMO the person would have to have been practiced at it; and we haven't heard anything about people in the neighboring community being suspicious of or terrorized by a figure in security gear using it to creepy-crawl all over town yet/before... s/he doesn't seem scared; and to know confidently that being tracked around the church isn't a problem, I would think you would have to be familiar with the church at minimum, and familiar with creeping around like a creep for overarching purposes; so the idea that someone would be all "I think I'll give up the sporting goods store and switch to a church!", still takes some guts on their part.

I personally think Missy was targeted and the costume was to conceal identity, keep forensics off (such as DNA under Missys nails) add a layer of protection from kicks and punches. (I doubt the getup was an actual Kevlar helmet and probably not Kevlar body armor so I don’t think it was intended to protect against Missy’s gun. Missy was also setting up for a class with equipment likely in her hands so the likelihood of her carrying the gun on her was very slim) and to throw general chaos and confusion into the case.

I do acknowledge there is also solid logic that Missy was not targeted too. I do admit I could be completely wrong, it’s just what I think based on what we know.

For every point you can make that she was targeted or not targeted, an equally valid counterpoint can be made.

 

[Cedars]

But the person isn't a cop or security guard (that we know of yet), so if not a LARPing scenario, why the costume?... the costume is disturbing.

IMO, this gives us a Golden State Killer escalating type of scenario no matter how we slice it, as most people who dress up like a security guard would be doing so to blend in; and if you're trying to blend in it seems you would like to get your business over with as soon as possible so you can get on back to your hidey-hole and shed your costume.

So in order to be this casual, IMO the person would have to have been practiced at it; and we haven't heard anything about people in the neighboring community being suspicious of or terrorized by a figure in security gear using it to creepy-crawl all over town yet/before... s/he doesn't seem scared; and to know confidently that being tracked around the church isn't a problem, I would think you would have to be familiar with the church at minimum, and familiar with creeping around like a creep for overarching purposes; so the idea that someone would be all "I think I'll give up the sporting goods store and switch to church!", still takes some guts

Yes and it raises the question for me, would the same person have been intending to tour around the sporting goods store in the SWAT costume? It would be a very different crime, no lingering for upwards of 20 minutes trying to open storage cupboards, and then killing anyone who came in, since it might have been a real police officer with backup right behind them...

JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

I was under the impression she died from blunt force injuries.

I have always assumed that the suspect used the pry bar, that was seen in the video, to kill her.

 

[lonewanderer]

I have always assumed that the suspect used the pry bar, that was seen in the video, to kill her.

I am not 100% sure that is a pry bar.

It may be my imagination but I swear it looks like the perp is not trying to pry anything, but is manipulating an object and using the door frame as a stabilizer.

Maybe assembling something, loading something, snapping something together.

I have also wracked my mind a million times but why does the perp take the hammer and slide it smothely over the pry bar/object before placing it back in its place? Where did it even go for that matter?

 

[rosesfromangels]

I am not 100% sure that is a pry bar.

It may be my imagination but I swear it looks like the perp is not trying to pry anything, but is manipulating an object and using the door frame as a stabilizer.

Maybe assembling something, loading something, snapping something together.

I have also wracked my mind a million times but why does the perp take the hammer and slide it smothely over the pry bar/object before placing it back in its place? Where did it even go for that matter?

The perp seems to have meandering behavior, without purpose. I’m thinking this could be an individual of limited cognition, seemingly playing out some real life video game. I think Missy startled them, and we know the rest. I don’t think harming. Missy was the original intent.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[DFWKaye]

I couldn't quote some things because it was closed in the previous thread.

Yes, Randy and Brandon both have alibis.

The blood stained shirt thing was super bizarre, and it felt on par with being "super clever and cute" wearing the full SWAT getup for its many different purposes (concealing identity, keeping forensics off, adding a layer of protection, generally throwing chaos and speculation into the case) and that most normal people would just trash a bloody shirt, especially if their DIL was just viciously murdered and people were looking at them very closely.

I want SO badly to say that Randy and Brandon were not involved. The shirt irks me though. It feels like another "clever/cute" attempt to see how closely the police where watching them all, mixed in with taunting and/or adding a red herring.

I personally think that this was more than likely a female in the SWAT gear. I have 3 specific women in mind with three very different motives behind it.

Two of the women have some really strong things that point to them, with specific details that would really make you go "hmmmmmmmmm".

The third one, I will just flat out say it. Brandon's sister acts SUPER defensive and weird any time an interview is given. She goes WAY out her way to defend Brandon and Randy, really aggressively and like she is about to attack. I realize this is simply some people's personalities, but it just feels so off.

So, if a mix of the other two women make you go "hmmm" and Randy, his wife, and Brandon are conveniently out of town, then who could suit up and take Missy out? She could have carried out the plan in the SWAT suit, which also could have made other people look like they were the ones in the suit.

I am not saying she did it, and my gut tells me that Randy and his crew weren't involved, but something is not quite right somewhere.

I too believe this was a female. I also think they are known by family members.
I've kept up with this case since it first aired on the news and have watched follow up cold case information.

The situation made it feel personal. They knew she showed up early to get ready for the class and knew how much time they had before others started arriving.

I also feel like there are people close to her that know who the perpetrator was. It's odd that a husband would ever stop searching for the person who took his wife's life. I know I could not rest until they were brought to justice.

 

[Itz_CrimsonYT]

This has been a very highly debated detail.

@SteveS has provided us with a direct link that shows that a woman on that date who was the same age as Missy was killed in Midlothian, Texas via firearm. There was no other deaths reported on that day. There is a news segment that also clearly states Missy was shot to death.

If she was shot to death, would it be possible for the police to trace the gun via bullet markings? Sure it wouldn't help identifying a killer immediately, but if a murder weapon is found, they might be able to use fingerprints to try and identify who might've shot the gun.

 

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