TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #12

[Murrayforlife]

To me the greatest piece of evidence is those eyes!!

It is what broke this case IMO. Now LE just puttin rest together. Arrest soon.

 

[Bill Carson]

Did y'all solve it yet? Hurry up, would ya?


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[arkansasmimi]

Anyone with LE experience on here, any opinion on LE taking the garbage from AT & CT house? Would they do that with all the targets, or just someone who they are pretty sure is the main suspect?

Anyone else can chime in also!

I am not LEO but honestly, WE don't know if they have or have not taken anyone else trash. We only know of allegedly LEO taking Tucker family trash because of a post by AJ Tucker on his fb. Which happen to be the same date that LEO filed the SW Affidavit for Target Numbers. April 25. We don't know when they were in for an interview (or if, but I would believe they would have been).But just don't know. But he is who posted that that happened. Extremely possible someone else took it...but timing, JMHO LEO. Was well after the fact of the murder.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Did y'all solve it yet? Hurry up, would ya?


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I think we're just waiting for LE to tidy up

 

[MargeGunderson]

I would feel more comfortable drawing conclusions about the letter and any intended meeting if we knew the circumstances of the writing. I don't believe she wrote the letter without the police knowing about it and being fine with it. Maybe the first one, but if they were unhappy with her writing the first, they would have made it clear not to write another.

That leaves two possibilities. First, that she wrote it completely on her own and the police stayed out of it but were ok with it happening. If this is the case I think there is very little we can infer from the substance of the letter. She might think she knows but is wrong. She might know it's someone in her family but that the rumor mill is looking elsewhere so she wants to continue the push in that direction. Heck, she could have read stuff on here and drew conclusions based on what people think here.

But I think it more likely that LE helped draft the letter. I know several have said that the wording sounds hinky. I think it sounds like many speeches and letters written for family members by LE to help rattle the perp. Sometimes you hear family pleas at a vigil or an anniversary of a unsolved murder and they were written at least in part by LE to target the killer and ratchet up the stress in their life. In the letter she is pointing out what is going to happen to the perp. He/she is going to be cuffed and hauled away in from of the person's family. The thought of that has to be near heart attack inducing. I think the comment about the boots is telling as well. If the police helped her write the letter, then I think they believe the boots were at least a bit too big. The perp probably thinks that was a smart move to help mess with the identification. But pointing out that they know and weren't fooled will also cause stress. I also think the fact that it was written without reference to gender is a real sign of police assistance. That is very difficult to do. Even in these posts I struggle to reword and remember not to refer to 'he' or 'she', and I'm not fully in one camp or the other yet. I think the police helped her be sure not to give away the gender of the suspect.

I don't think the police expect the letter to cause the perp to turn him/herself in. But I think they hope continued stress and pressure on the perp is going to make it more and more difficult to act normally.

 

[KaaBoom]

I wonder MPD they put 3:50 in their timeline then?

They said, that is the time the suspect first appeared on video. They have only released less then two minutes of video out of 30 minutes.

 

[North coast]

Ok so say the person with the broken foot did do this... You know their spouse would know. Why wouldn't the spouse turn her in to police? Wouldn't he be scared for not only himself but his kids?

I'm still about 10 pages back but wanted to throw this out there. I mentioned earlier in the thread that it is possible that the husband could be cooperating with police and was told to carry on as though nothing is amiss. MOO

 

[robthomaseyes]

CW MMA pulls up many photos and fight videos. He definitely isn't a physical fitness rookie. I can't figure out how MB's sphere would intersect with his busy healthcare recruiting and MMA fighting sphere.

This is where steroids may come in. I truly feel that the involvement of the DEA points to drug involvement in this case. Because of the fitness/bodybuilding angle, it would most likely be steroids. Maybe CW was providing her with steroids (achieving a cut look in her 40s, complete with popping veins, I think it's a real possibility). And then maybe they started up a relationship.

Just my opinion, of course...

 

[KaaBoom]

Police confirmed the arrival by him/her as 3:50am.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-video-timeline-released-in-terri-bevers-death-at-texas-church/

That does not confirm that. It confirms that he first appeared on video at 3:50AM, not what time what time he arrived.

 

[cady]

Police encouraging or having ANYTHING to do with the MIL writing a letter on her personal FB is just absurd, to me. She could have sent the letter to a newspaper to be published, but she did not. Obviously, she was hoping that the perp reads her FB posts, and/or was attempting to deflect suspicion away from her family. JMO

 

[Gae]

I'm still about 10 pages back but wanted to throw this out there. I mentioned earlier in the thread that it is possible that the husband could be cooperating with police and was told to carry on as though nothing is amiss. MOO

I suppose anything is possible, but would LE dare leave children in her care when they know what she's capable of?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by rgrace7475 View Post
But what if they know who did it, but don't have solid physical evidence yet? Would they still arrest immediately?

No - They would wait. There are all kinds of problems with arresting someone before you have enough evidence. It can be as simple as they can't arrest even though they are pretty sure they know because they don't even have enough for an arrest warrant to they need a few more tests to come in because they take time and an arrest starts a clock on all kinds of rights for the defendant. If they thought the person was a danger then they might speed it up, but as weird as it sounds when talking about someone who killed another person, they probably don't see this person as being dangerous anymore. This seems to be a targeted murder by someone intending to kill MB. They probably don't believe this person is a spree or serial killer who will go out and kill someone else if they don't get h/er off the street asap.

Think of it as you (just example lol) They have to have some sort of evidence that you committed the crime to be arrested on certain charges. We live in the United States of America and there are laws and Rights of ever citizen. I take those very serious as you and everyone should. Even after an arrest, the Defendant is Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And you want the Pros to have all the facts possible and for the Investigators to do everything to the letter of the law so that it is a solid case of guilt. A good Def attorney is going to challenge them. Somethings there are no do overs on. Double Jeopardy ... Let them take their time and do it right... get the right person. Don't want the LEO arrest and then find out it was yyy. That would be something a Def would love.


Missy Bevers family deserves no less than a solid conviction for her senseless murder. JMHO

Case that is heart breaking Nona Dirksmeyer. Murdered... Kevin Jones her bf found her ... arrested, his lawyers found out a condom wrapper found but the LEO didnt check (been a while foggy on the specifics) but iirc the Def had it tested, had DNA of another person... Gary Dunn.... Jones was acquitted...Then the Pros arrested Gary Dunn. IIRC he had 2 hung juries and they held off on retrying him a 3rd time. My heart hurts for her family. .. Get it right the first time. JMHO

 

[robthomaseyes]

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Yeah, stupid, naive people, which most people are IMO. No offense to anyone, but the truth is anyone is capable of anything including the most evil deeds. Unfortunately most women think as you are describing about their own spouse, men too "my spouse is so sweet, good, etc, would never hurt anyone much less kill, would never cheat on me, all he/she cares about are the kids, job, sports, and hobbies, etc etc etc. We all know this is not true about anyone, but for some reason few people can ever accept it about their own spouse. That's why so many end up shocked, cheated on, duped, and some even dead.

True, but then again, Who on earth marries someone they think is capable of doing these things? If you think that your S.O. IS the type who is capable of such things, you shouldn't be marrying him in the first place!

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Hypothetically, consider being an extremely ambitious, hard-working individual busting your butt to provide for your spouse and children. And you start to suspect your spouse did something so heinous and evil... What must that be like? If indeed that household exists, the tension could be cut with a knife. On Mother's day of all days.

 

[Treelights]

[video=youtube;XNLtwTK2hq8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNLtwTK2hq8[/video]

Midlothian Police Department Press Conference:
From 8 min. 18 seconds in the video to 8 minutes 41 seconds in the video:

Someone asks:

"How long had the person been there; any idea before the crime, this crime happened?"

Answer from the captain:

" My chief said we have some video surveillance, the video in the church is, works on motion (section? selection? detection?)

(I couldn't understand the pronunciation.)

"So we can't say for sure when he got into the building, but the first time he appears on the camera is about 10 minutes before 4am,

but that's not to say that he wasn't in the building prior to that cause he may not have been anywhere within captured video."

Since for some reason this is being brought up again on the thread, I will repost my post about the video, and hopefully the others that did not see this video will now understand what LE said.

IMOO.

 

[MargeGunderson]

Don't want the LEO arrest and then find out it was yyy. That would be something a Def would love.


Case that is heart breaking Nona Dirksmeyer. Murdered... Gary Jones her bf found her ... arrested, his lawyers found out a condom wrapper found but the LEO didnt check (been a while foggy on the specifics) but iirc the Def had it tested, had finger prints of another person... Gary Dunn. Jones was acquitted...Then the Pros arrested Gary Jones. IIRC he had 2 hung juries and they held off on retrying him a 3rd time. My heart hurts for her family. .. Get it right the first time. JMHO

Exactly - that kind of turn around only works out well on Murder, She Wrote. Usually when the wrong person is arrested the first time no one ever gets convicted. Or just as bad, arrest the right person the first time but before the case is set with enough evidence and that person goes free. No hope for justice there either.

 

[Treelights]

That does not confirm that. It confirms that he first appeared on video at 3:50AM, not what time what time he arrived.

Correct and after the person that you replied to saw the video that I posted, they said it became much clearer to them.

IMOO.

 

[Snow Flower]

I can't help but wonder if the spouse of the perp knows of the murder too? Whoever the killer is.

Anyone here read the book, "Gone Girl" or see the movie? The husband knew she killed someone but stayed with her anyway. Of course, that is fiction.

If I knew my husband murdered someone, or suspected it, Would I turn him over to LE? What if I had an affair and felt guilty about it, knowing in my heart of hearts that it was because of my affair that my spouse went crazy with jealousy. What would I do then?

There is plenty of blame in this case to go around! JMO

 

[cady]

True, but then again, Who on earth marries someone they think is capable of doing these things? If you think that your S.O. IS the type who is capable of such things, you shouldn't be marrying him in the first place!

Happens all the time!!! JMO

 

[robthomaseyes]

Interesting. Very interesting.

I can imagine the T's lives are disrupted now with being named publicly and with all the rumors. I wonder if the reason he canceled is because of that discomfort, of if because nobody wanted to be in his class, or because his classes are being watched?

We've commented that people connected to the case (connected in the sense they have been named) seem to be continuing life as usual. Well, perhaps not everyone is carrying on as usual.

Tick tock?

This is how people involved with the case simply can't win. If they carry on as normally, people point to that as evidence that they don't care about MB, which means they are probably the perp. If they stop carrying on as normally, ch ange their routine or posting habits, etc., THAT is ALSO used as evidence that the person is probably the perp.

I think neither scenario is evidence that a person is involved; instead, I think it's evidence we are all letting our imaginations run away with us. IMO