TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #13

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April 18:

Times in bold = suspect present in church


3:50 a.m. - Suspect first appears on video surveillance camera at Creekside Church of Christ

4:16 a.m. - Missy's pickup truck is shown on video surveillance driving into the church parking lot

4:20 a.m. - Missy appears on video surveillance camera walking into the church building


From this time on, the killer may or may not have been present at the church :

4:35 a.m. - Participant in Camp Gladiator fitness class arrives at the church

5:00 a.m. - Two 911 calls received from church

5:01 a.m. - Fire department dispatched

5:03 a.m. - Initial patrol officers dispatched

5:07 a.m. - Fire department arrives to the church

5:10 a.m. Officers arrive at the church
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http://www.fox4news.com/news/129779738-story
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To be at the church at around 3:50am the perpetrator had to have a good reason being out in a heavy rain that morning. Does he/she live by himself? Does he/she often leave the house that early? Does he/she return from work that late? That rain would almost require a vehicle in order not to show up wet allover and leaving puddles of water inside the building.

Sunday: 2.17" of rain Monday: 1.25" of rain.

https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KJWY/2016/4/18/MonthlyCalendar.html

The early morning CG workouts for Monday were scheduled at :

5:00am @ C Church (crimescene)
4:45am in front of BoB, Midlothian, app 3 1/2 miles from C Church
5:00am at 617 7th Str, Midlothian, app 4 miles from C Church

[video=youtube;w2fPm6bavTw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2fPm6bavTw[/video]

It is possible, that the perpetrator is/was a participant of any of those early camps. That would give the individual a reason to be on the road that early. The killer would be able to make it to any of the 3 GC workout sites that morning, especially if the perp had speculative already left the C Church by the time the first camper arrived that morning at 4:35am. He could turn around and officially "arrive" at Creekside, or arrive at the BoB location, or proceed to the 7th Str site.[/FONT][FONT=&amp][FONT=&amp] Even if one or both of the other camps had been cancelled due to the weather, it could still play out for the perp, "Oh I did not know the camp was cancelled"..
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Not saying that's what happened here. Just pointing out the possibilities.

-Nin





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  • #582
If one lived close by they would definitely know the area, right? Know to avoid the gun store camera etc. From what I remember Midlo is pretty flat and open. Would it be possible to ride a 4 wheeler over to a waiting truck?


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  • #583
Early on didn't LE say that the public was not in danger ? And now they are saying that "other lives could be in danger " ? Must be highly concerning for local residents. jmo
 
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Early on didn't LE say that the public was not in danger ? And now they are saying that "other lives could be in danger " ? Must be highly concerning for local residents. jmo
I must have missed this. Where is LE saying other lives are in danger? Do you have a link?
 
  • #585
Jeff Smith ‏@JeffSmithNBC5 40m40 minutes ago
3 weeks since Missy Bevers was brutally murdered inside a Midlothian church. What PD just told me next on @NBCDFW

https://twitter.com/JeffSmithNBC5

Maybe we'll get a little news to chew on.
 
  • #586
And a tbi can affect the function of the side of the body that was injured on the head. [emoji849]


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Yes, I am reading up on it now. Wow it can cause a lot of issues regarding altered mental status. [emoji85][emoji87][emoji86]
 
  • #587
Early on didn't LE say that the public was not in danger ? And now they are saying that "other lives could be in danger " ? Must be highly concerning for local residents. jmo

Do you know where that information came from.
I read it here on Sat but never saw a link
I would be interested to read that.
Is it specific lives as in she and her group were targeted ? Or the public in general is at risk?
 
  • #588
The visitor posts on MPD facebook this morning mentions a creepy post to MB's FB. Has this deleted post been discussed on WS yet?
 
  • #589
I was unclear and I apologize.
The permit is required for burglar alarms.

I know from working at a church....they are required to have a fire alarm and sprinkler system. But that doesn't mean it's wired to transmit a signal to the fire station in case of fire.

Actually I read the Midlothian city code on alarm systems and a permit is required on any type of alarm system that calls out as the purpose of the law has to do with use of city services. You for instance could have a burglar alarm that is only intended to notify the occupants of the building and you wouldn't need a permit for that, but if you have a fire alarm that signals externally where it triggers the MFD to respond, you'd a need a permit for that:
Alarm system. A device or system that emits or relays a signal intended to summon or that would reasonably be expected to summon an emergency service of the city. “Alarm system” does not include an alarm installed on a vehicle (unless such vehicle is permanently located at an alarm site), nor an alarm designed to alert only the inhabitants of the premises.
http://z2codes.franklinlegal.net/fr...nset&collection=midlothian&documentid=981#981
 
  • #590
Actually I read the Midlothian city code on alarm systems and a permit is required on any type of alarm system that calls out as the purpose of the law has to do with use of city services. You for instance could have a burglar alarm that is only intended to notify the occupants of the building and you wouldn't need a permit for that, but if you have a fire alarm that signals externally where it triggers the MFD to respond, you'd a need a permit for that:
Alarm system. A device or system that emits or relays a signal intended to summon or that would reasonably be expected to summon an emergency service of the city. “Alarm system” does not include an alarm installed on a vehicle (unless such vehicle is permanently located at an alarm site), nor an alarm designed to alert only the inhabitants of the premises.
http://z2codes.franklinlegal.net/fr...nset&collection=midlothian&documentid=981#981

Yes, this is correct.

My post was specifically referencing burglar alarms since that's what would have been triggered by the break in if the church had an alarm system.
 
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This has been brought up a few times before and tickles my brain...

Could MB or BB been having an affair with someone in LE and the reason for all the agencies involved is that the uniform and equipment used was legit? Did any spouses of LE attend Missy's classes? Anyone live near the church?

As to the gait...injury from breaking in? Former leg injury? Some sort of head injury that effects motor skills?

Just new ideas to ponder.


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Other agencies get involved for a variety of reasons. FBI, Secret Service, etc. especially if internet communications are suspected to be involved. It may have nothing to do with the "get up" the perp is wearing.
 
  • #593
I am not new to following this case or this board, but it is my first post. Pardon my amateur thought processes, but I do have a few questions/observations:

1. I read on a news site (I'll provide a link if you need one--again, I'm so sorry that I'm new to posting and don't want to break any rules) that Missy's last Facebook post was on Sunday night and it was telling Camp Gladiator's participants that class would be going on inside because of the rain (they quoted her as saying "No excuses. You are Gladiators! If it's raining, we're still training." The link provided to that post is now broken. I have a few questions spawning from this:

A. Who deleted the post and why? Obviously Missy didn't delete it because a) the news site found it after her death and b) she would have wanted her students to know the class will still happening.

B. When was her account memorialized? According to Facebook, content cannot be deleted from a memorialized account. If someone is identified as the "legacy contact", they can do certain things on the account, but they cannot remove or change past posts.

C. This attack has always seemed premeditated far in advance to me, but it would have to have been much more spur-of-the-moment if she only posted on Sunday evening that Monday evening's class would still be held and would be held inside the church. That changes my mindset a bit.

2. What do we know about MB's family? We've heard a lot from BB's family, but not hers (to my knowledge). I'm not saying they're involved--just wondering.
 
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In looking at the phone warranty, it appears that both BB & VB have 2 phone numbers.
Also, MB's trip to Austin and BB's fishing trip were planned in advance.
Somebody knew Missy's schedule and routine.
LE stated that both BB & MB had affairs
LE stated that BB & MB had financial difficulties.
The perp appeared very comfortable using the different tools that were pulled from an odd pouch that he was wearing
The perp never once appeared uncomfortable or clumsy with the tools, the extra bulky clothing or the helmet.
The perp clearly has a distinctive gait which was consistent throughout the video.
RB has a distincitve gait that is very similar to perp
Perp is 5'8-5'9"
RB appears to be perp height
Perp Has sloped shoulders
RB has sloped shoulders
The perp left within minutes of Camper #1 arriving


A lot to consider, and to be fair RB has willingly been in the news and interviewed multiple times. Maybe he has been asked to walk like the perp for the sake of letting real perp get comfortable?
 
  • #596
Here is one I found with the names un redacted (numbers are) but can tell the 2 that have multiple phones as their lines are longer (BB and VB) the husband and BB step mother.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/311723138/ATT-Warrant-Dated-April-25

Thank you arkansasmimi
- I hadn't read this, I was lazy and reading only what others have been posting to here.
It's a good read and shows how thorough search warrants have to be in regard to legal trails of collecting digital evidence. I mean it
looks like it's not enough to say "gimme everything relating to phone number XYZ" - it must be specific to cover all bases
in case of challenges of "technicality" in court. I always hate reading that someone got off on a "technicality". This is also why I believe
there are warrants for collecting the trash from Targets.

Dying to know what/who are the Target Numbers.

The warrant also states it can't rule out a female suspect.

From the warrant, bbm:

"Based upon the facts and circumstances surrounding this crime of murder as presently
known by the Affiant, and in conjunction with the Affiants training and experiences in law
enforcement, crimes against persons, and criminal activity, Affiant believes and charges
that at the time of the commission of the offense of murder that the unknown suspect was
in possession of a cell phone and had been in contact in some manner with "Target
Numbers" identified above for the following purposes, without limitation: (i) confirming
through public social media sites and/or applications the updated workout times and
locations as posted by Ms. Bevers; (ii) communicating in the nature of calls, messages,
texting, emails, data, push-to-talk, and walky-talky; (iii) using smart phone capabilities to
photograph, record, and/or video the victim and the murderous act; and (iv) using
functional applications and tools such as map locator applications, clock or timing
capabilities, GPS locating applications, and flashlight.



Additionally, your Affiant has relied upon his common experience,
as well as informational
research obtained (demonstrating that over ninety percent of American adults own a cell
phone and a substantial percentage of such cell phones possess smart phone
capabilities) in establishing that the vast majority of the populous own, possess, utilize,
and carry on or about their person (or within their vehicle) a cell phone on a regular and
constant basis, and consequently, Affiant has further probable cause to believe that at
during the specified date range the "Target Numbers" did in fact have contact with Ms.
Bevers."

BBM 1: Covering all the bases

BBM 2: good to see that "common experience" is legally considered as having weight to evidence - most of us knew that,
but it's good to have it reinforced for those of us who use our common experiences to form and/or support
our opinions!

Sgt. McKinney is well-equipped and experienced in several disciplines of investigation - I'm looking forward to more reading!!
 
  • #597
So you don't think they had a fire alarm if the building caught fire? It could be that a sticker alone wouldn't tell you the extent of their alarm system.

its a completely different thing many cities in Texas require a permit specifically for security alarms. Sometimes the permit itself has to be displayed. You have to show proof the alarm is monitored etc.
 
  • #598
Yes, this is correct.

My post was specifically referencing burglar alarms since that's what would have been triggered by the break in if the church had an alarm system.

But what I'm saying is that if you saw for instance an ADT sticker on a commercial building, you'd need insider information or to test the system to actually know what that meant. ADT offers commercial fire alarm systems where a sticker could mean if there's a fire MFD would be notified or it could be combo fire/burglar alarm or alternatively it could be an old sticker that nobody bothered removing (I'm not seeing it as a crime or violation to display a sticker if a premises doesn't actually have one of those services) and conversely a sticker could have fallen off over time where nobody noticed. Actually it's a little cottage industry selling stickers only for people to put up stickers so it looks like some place has an alarm system. If I was planning to commit a serious murder, I would not rely upon what I saw on a window.
 
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SpanishInquisition said:
Just a couple of general comments. There may be multiple people involved (some involved a walkie-talkie type communication device was used) or at least LE has to check that even if LE is certain of who did the murder itself. Also with the tools left behind, it's not said where the tools were left. Keep in mind the tools were used as weapons and it wouldn't be unusual to find someone with a knife left stuck in them nor for instance should be unusual to find someone with a screwdriver stuck in them if the screwdriver was used like a knife, especially if the intent was desecration.
---or if the intent was efficiency (exsanguination, etc.) ---or if the intent was a message to some other person(s) --- ---For those who see a Direct hot emotional murder, the "multiple puncture wounds" look like overkill, frenzy and postmortem desecration, actions toward the victim. ---For those who see an Indirect cold dedicated kill, the "multiple puncture wounds" look like selected points on a body where specific injury leads to certain death in multiple ways, and there is no interest or time for post-mortem desecration, except if there was a message in the desecration intended for the living not the dead. JMO
 
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