TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #13

[Bootsctr]

But what I'm saying is that if you saw for instance an ADT sticker on a commercial building, you'd need insider information or to test the system to actually know what that meant. ADT offers commercial fire alarm systems where a sticker could mean if there's a fire MFD would be notified or it could be combo fire/burglar alarm or alternatively it could be an old sticker that nobody bothered removing (I'm not seeing it as a crime or violation to display a sticker if a premises doesn't actually have one of those services) and conversely a sticker could have fallen off over time where nobody noticed. Actually it's a little cottage industry selling stickers only for people to put up stickers so it looks like some place has an alarm system. If I was planning to commit a serious murder, I would not rely upon what I saw on a window.

My SIL did this with a little fake sign in her flower bed. I always thought it would not prevent a determined person.

 

[IQuestion]

Here is one I found with the names un redacted (numbers are) but can tell the 2 that have multiple phones as their lines are longer (BB and VB) the husband and BB step mother.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/311723138/ATT-Warrant-Dated-April-25

ARKANSASMIMI.....WOW, WOW, WOW! Why would retiree's need so many cell phone numbers? Loved the way you figured out who had the "extra phone lines." Does anybody know if you can "forward your phone calls from one cell phone to another??"
IE...If I was in Texas right now, could I use my California cell phone number to make it appear I am answering the phone in California, even though I am having the calls forwarded to another phone?? Does anyone know how that works with cell phone towers, or am I barking up the wrong cell phone tower theory? lol. Other than a "spousal alibi" how else could it be proved?

 

[Bootsctr]

But what I'm saying is that if you saw for instance an ADT sticker on a commercial building, you'd need insider information or to test the system to actually know what that meant. ADT offers commercial fire alarm systems where a sticker could mean if there's a fire MFD would be notified or it could be combo fire/burglar alarm or alternatively it could be an old sticker that nobody bothered removing (I'm not seeing it as a crime or violation to display a sticker if a premises doesn't actually have one of those services) and conversely a sticker could have fallen off over time where nobody noticed. Actually it's a little cottage industry selling stickers only for people to put up stickers so it looks like some place has an alarm system. If I was planning to commit a serious murder, I would not rely upon what I saw on a window.

Seriously, I think a sign like this might deter someone more:

 

[sunsetbeach]

Do you know where that information came from.
I read it here on Sat but never saw a link
I would be interested to read that.
Is it specific lives as in she and her group were targeted ? Or the public in general is at risk?

I'm not sure if this is what the previous person was alluding to but you can find similar wording in the warrant on page 5.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/311633048/LinkedIn-Warrant-5-5-16#fullscreen

 

[dotr]

Concerning safety and social media..
https://www.yahoo.com/news/texas-fitness-trainer-missy-bevers-church-killing-134837318.html

While police have made no connection between Bevers’ death and her prolific and unprotected online presence, cybersecurity expert and author Joseph Steinberg said users should double-check their privacy settings and heed security best practices.

“This terrible tragedy is a reminder that when you’re sharing information online, that information can be shared with people who have bad intentions,” said Steinberg, CEO of SecureMySocial, a tech company that warns businesses and individuals in real time if their social posts are inappropriate or if they increase their vulnerability.

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More recently, Bevers had leveraged her social presence to push her involvement with both a network marketer of nutritional supplements and Camp Gladiator, an Austin-based company that uses independent fitness trainers to host boot camps in Texas, Colorado, Florida and North Carolina.

Last August, Bevers published her mobile phone number in a tweet advertising her group fitness classes in Midlothian.

“There are many people who share information and don’t realize the potential consequences of what they are sharing,” Steinberg said.
In a tweet last August, Bevers published her mobile phone number. (The number is redacted here by Yahoo News.) (Screenshot)

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“I’m definitely praying for her family, campers, and community,” the commenter wrote. “I also worry about the safety of all other trainers. They become our close friends. This story brings attention to the fact that trainers arrive early and alone. So even if this guy doesn’t try something, others could. I’m praying for safety and protection. And I’ll do a better job getting to camp early.”

Other posts on Bevers’ social media revealed details like photos of the car she shopped for two years ago and locations of restaurants and gyms she frequented.

“Sometimes it’s not the one post that creates the danger, it’s the combination,” Steinberg said. “It’s the 1-plus-1-plus-1-equals-500 problem.”

rbbm.

 

[QueenBea13]

. To me that explains all of the extra agencies helping so no biased people are investigating it. If the family members gave them info that lead to an actual police officer within the area they would have to get someone else to investigate... Right?

Does no one think the recent arrest of the 2nd LE guy is somehow connected? Just throwing it out there just in case, ya never know.

 

[Heather301]

Does no one think the recent arrest of the 2nd LE guy is somehow connected? Just throwing it out there just in case, ya never know.

I didn't think so but now I'm thinking it might. Wow this case has lots of twists and turns. I feel sorry for the locals seeing all of this unfold yet no arrests or even a person of interest named yet. It has to be unsettling for them.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

Regarding the trash and search warrants:

Trash placed outside for collection is considered abandoned, and therefore public property. That's why it's not stealing if you dumpster dive (or curbside dive). Feds do not need a search warrant to search it nor to use what they find in court--it's all fair game.

Here's a link and snippet from link, if interested:

http://m.waste360.com/mag/waste_garbage_public_property

Separate concurring opinions by three judges mentioned "abandonment" as another reason to deny Fourth Amendment protection for garbage. Thus, if an individual customarily deposits his garbage in a receptacle and leaves it for pickup by trash collectors, "he has manifested an intent to abandon his refuse," which is "tantamount to 'throwing away' [an accepted and reasonable] subjective exception of privacy in it ...," a concurring opinion said.

 

[sunsetbeach]

So you're sleuthing Brandon's family members.

KS has been in the media. Not sure if we can sleuth her. I have seen her posts on a public FB page but have not brought any of that info over because I'm not sure where the line in the sand should be drawn.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Sl...ster-in-Law-Speaks-to-Dateline-376629821.html

 

[KrazyKatLadi]

KS has been in the media. Not sure if we can sleuth her. I have seen her posts on a public FB page but have not brought any of that info over because I'm not sure where the line in the sand should be drawn.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Sl...ster-in-Law-Speaks-to-Dateline-376629821.html

Just to clarify again, what I said had nothing to do with sleuthing KS. She said it in an interview and it clicked with something someone posted. That's it. Just another weird thing in this case.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

ARKANSASMIMI.....WOW, WOW, WOW! Why would retiree's need so many cell phone numbers? Loved the way you figured out who had the "extra phone lines." Does anybody know if you can "forward your phone calls from one cell phone to another??"
IE...If I was in Texas right now, could I use my California cell phone number to make it appear I am answering the phone in California, even though I am having the calls forwarded to another phone?? Does anyone know how that works with cell phone towers, or am I barking up the wrong cell phone tower theory? lol. Other than a "spousal alibi" how else could it be proved?

Here is AT&T's instructions for using call forwarding on their phones:
https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1011513

 

[MargeGunderson]

Does no one think the recent arrest of the 2nd LE guy is somehow connected? Just throwing it out there just in case, ya never know.

I missed this. Who was arrested and how might it connect?

 

[SandyQLS]

...SBM...length...specify response... C. This attack has always seemed premeditated far in advance to me, but it would have to have been much more spur-of-the-moment if she only posted on Sunday evening that Monday evening's class would still be held and would be held inside the church. That changes my mindset a bit.

This is part of why I believe that the killer both arrived and left on foot through the woods/countryside. IMO the killer had many Abort Operation scenarios conceived of in advance in his/her mind, and any number of factors could have caused them to need to make a hasty escape from the "burglary" without completing the murder task. 360 degrees of escape routes looking at the church roof on aerial/overhead maps, laid out as perferences 1,2,3,etc., and with perhaps more than one mode of available wheeled transporation in 2 different locations. just some conjecture/MOO

 

[FelicityLemon]

Someone upthread asked what the most common motives for murder are. I think there are different theories about what motivates someone and we don't know the motivation for Missy's murderer, so we can just speculate for now.

Here's one perspective about common motivations for murder from Dateline's Josh Mankiewicz:



http://www.adweek.com/fishbowlny/da...edge-show-mark-thompson-heather-ankeny/195170

Add revenge to that list :coldcase:

 

[atthelake]

No arrest anytime soon
No developments over the weekend
No additional search warrant returns to be released anytime soon

More interviews this week
Can not identify a suspect or POI

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Missy-Bevers_Dallas-Fort-Worth-378663281.html

Thank you for the summary as I am on my phone and many times the links will not play a video for me.

:seeya:

:hug:

 

[leebee52]

I had a thought about ct. When ct posted on her fb about trimming her split ends and changing to a new color of hair dye, wouldn't an explanation much much more reasonable than that she was showing extraordinary unbelievable but telltale cold-heartedness and narcissism, when a young mom, much like her own self, and who lived in her own vicinity, and who worked regularly with her own hubby wound up just hours earlier that day brutally murdered, instead ct surely or most likely just was busy tending to her own children, and her church helping the poor and school room mother sorts of activities, and only relaxed to watch the ten o clock news before going to sleep, so ct just had no idea something awful like that had occurred, and also ct was just simply taking an understandable twenty second breather from her kids to put on some makeup and post a selfie and post her wishful thinking about leaving her hair long and dying it to some other color??

 

[Dushi]

Thank you for the summary as I am on my phone and many times the links will not play a video for me.

:seeya:

:hug:

Absolutely
Good to see you here ATL

 

[nawd68]

There have been a couple of very hateful posts directed at the victim on the visitor section on mpd fb page.They have been removed but the poster is from a radical group with a contrived american woman's name.Any body else noticed>?

What do you mean by the visitor section? I don't see it. Maybe I can't see it using the FB app?

 

[QueenBea13]

I missed this. Who was arrested and how might it connect?

I don't know that it's connected per say, but it could account for all the various agencies involved with MB's case because imo I don't think I have ever seen the likes of so many agencies working on a murder case, so I'd have to think there could be more to it than any of us know about.
Here's the link for the 2nd deputy that was recently arrested.
http://m.waxahachietx.com/article/20160504/NEWS/160509782

 

[PibblePal]

Referring to the "flashlight" info request on the AT&T SW... remember when all that hoopla regarding the malware and spyware of the flashlight apps could pose a security risk for users on their ios and android phones? I wonder if that is applicable here? LE may just be covering all their bases, but how thorough is that?!!!