TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #20

[Jax49]

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-search-for-vehicle-of-interest-in-texas-church-murder/

Sorry if this has already been linked.

 

[ludakristen]

I may be seeing things, but that looks like a AAA (Triple A) sticker - size and everything.
I'll try to upload.

Look at this enhanced photo:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-19&p=12574241#post12574241

You can see a circular object on the left and horizontal stripes. I.e., Colorado sticker.

IMO.

 

[arkansasmimi]

JMHO, the reenactment team that came from Tarrant County, even though some may think that that is not new. The cameras clearly distorted some aspects. And the first estimates in height v the reconstruction heights will make all the difference in the world as evidence. This will be one more piece of expert evidence to be used. JMHO

 

[oblios]

I don't see a front plate. Only the sticker looking thing. TX veh have a front and rear plate. But in Arkansas for instance we only have the rear plate. Possible could have been someone traveling through and due to the storm pulled over. I know I have traveled 35E many times and pulled off for gas/potty break at Midlothian. But where I stop its off then right back on.

My first impression is that the picture depicts the back of the car, not the front. Those are the brake lights. You can see what appears to be a rear view mirror lit up in the vehicle. Am I looking at this wrong?

 

[FelicityLemon]

I also don’t understand how BB could say that Missy wasn’t targeted (in the beginning), when he had only seen the 7 second video, and when he himself said that he warned Missy about the early classes and about being careful only weeks prior to her murder…just my opinion.

I don't think anyone's mind immediately goes to their murdered spouse being a target or that it was personal. It's bad enough to know someone killed him/her deliberately, but it would be devastating (even more so) to think someone hated them enough to target them.

I think it's one of the first questions asked by investigators "Can you think of anyone who would want to harm your spouse? Do you know of any problems she might have had with someone?" "Has she ever been threatened by anyone that you know of?" "Has she ever talked about someone bothering her? or Has she ever mentioned to you that she was afraid of someone?" Unless there was something concrete already in your mind, you'd probably answer "No, everyone loved her" or something like that.

I'd been thinking if my DH was murdered at his job when he works late at night and I was asked those questions, first thing I'd say is No! I'd have to think for quite a while before coming close to anyone that 1) might be mad at him for any odd thing, or 2) who would be nuts enough to deliberately kill him?

After thinking about it a couple of days randomly, I did think of someone, but there are several people he/the guy has problems with and he (THE GUY I HAVE IN MIND, NOT MY DH!!!)could target any one of them

I hope I'm not jinxing anything, but after thinking really about this, I just wrote a note in my calendar about that person - just in case something happens at the workplace.

 

[msboombastic]

In the previous thread, someone posted an enhanced photo:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...T-gear-18-Apr-2016-19&p=12574241#post12574241

Sure looks like the CO sticker to me.

it could be. there are lots of different variations of these stickers for the colorado flag, some in different colors

 

[SteveS]

TRANSCRIPT OF EXACTLY WHAT LE SAID TODAY ABOUT THE CAR AND OUTDOOR CAMS. It looks to me like there is a lot of confusion or misunderstanding about what was said about this stuff. So a reminder of what exactly was said.

CHIEF'S STATEMENT - PORTION ABOUT THE SWFA CAR

"Part of our initial investigation involved canvassing residential and commercial camera systems for any activity in the vicinity of the murder prior to. Several leads were generated through this effort. All but one of those leads have been exhausted.

The last remaining lead involves a car that pulls into the SWFA sporting goods parking lot at approximately 2 am. They're seen pulling into the parking lot and leaving just a few minutes later.

We believe that car is a 2010 to 2012 Nissan Altima. It's light in color, possibly silver. (It's hard to tell - you remember it was raining that morning.)

Let me emphasize, though, we don't have any reason whatsover to believe that this car or its driver are in any way involved with the murder of Missy Bevers. In the interest of following up on every possible lead, this is the last lead that hasn't been exhausted from that video canvassing. We'd like to talk to the driver of that car and they can contact us at our established tipline or our non-emergency number.

But again, we don't believe this is the vehicle of the killer. We don't believe that there's necessarily any connection to the offenses. It's well over an hour before the killer is believed to have come onto the scene at the church, and it's arguable how visible the church may have been seen from that business on the morning when it was raining.

It's simply just an unfinished lead that we'd like to talk to that person and see if they have anything to add to the investigation."

FROM Q&A THAT FOLLOWED LATER:

Q: To be clear on the car, did it pull into SWFA's parking lot, or the church's parking lot?
Chief: "It pulled into SWFA's parking lot, and pulled out a few minutes later. Back onto 287."

Q: Do you have any detailed information that you can give us, chief, about this vehicle that pulled in, any other ...?
Chief: "No. There's a very sophisticated camera system at that store, but unfortunately due to the rain it really obscured the details that you would normally see when cars pulled into the driveway."

Chief (to a later question about the church's camera setup): "...Exterior cameras worked on an intermittent basis. So they were experiencing just some malfunctions.
We had video during previous times of exterior footage but on the day of the murder we don't have exterior footage from the cameras outside ...."

Q: Have you been able to determine if those cameras outside the church were corrupted in some kind of way?
Chief: "We don't believe they were. We believe it was just they (trails off, inaudible) - They were aware of the malfunction prior to the murder."

 

[lonetraveler]

Checking in and wondering, did I miss a thread #19?

 

[TeaTime]

RBB : how do we know it's about jealousy ? tia

I can not think of any other reason to bludgeon an unarmed little female fitness instructor to death.

 

[TTF14]

Hi everyone. The "wasted man hours" were from a FB group determined that a certain gentleman was involved. He was never discussed here on WS one single time. Good job to everyone at WS, whom I believe truly wants justice for Missy.

Some people other places want to spend their time discrediting those who are asked their opinions on cases. If the person that's interviewed seems too young or the wrong gender, they want to discount and bully them immediately. They forget that person might really come with a certain background, expertise and supreme relationships that guided them on other investigations. The person certainly doesn't know it all, but they've made key breaks on other cases & are explaining it from their eyes, within legal perimeters. Since LE does not have a suspect, technically no one knows it all just yet. It's up to each of us to decide who or what we believe. I share this with heartfelt sincerity: we can solve this for Missy. We may not agree on everything...or most things...or anything (lol)...but the ability to do it together and consider possibilities makes us that much stronger. I choose to be cautious with everything, but not cynical of all things. I believe in LE still and continually pray for the family and all those working to find justice for Missy.

Today's presser was brilliantly executed. Someone else mentioned it as well on here and I can't agree more.


P.S. 5'4 1/2 - 5'5 is my target height. I'll mortgage my house if I'm wrong. Lol

Why do you think it was brilliantly executed? People keep saying that but nobody is offering a reason why.

 

[TTF14]

TRANSCRIPT OF EXACTLY WHAT LE SAID TODAY ABOUT THE CAR AND OUTDOOR CAMS. It looks to me like there is a lot of confusion or misunderstanding about what was said about this stuff. So a reminder of what exactly was said.

CHIEF'S STATEMENT - PORTION ABOUT THE SWFA CAR

"Part of our initial investigation involved canvassing residential and commercial camera systems for any activity in the vicinity of the murder prior to. Several leads were generated through this effort. All but one of those leads have been exhausted.

The last remaining lead involves a car that pulls into the SWFA sporting goods parking lot at approximately 2 am. They're seen pulling into the parking lot and leaving just a few minutes later.

We believe that car is a 2010 to 2012 Nissan Altima. It's light in color, possibly silver. (It's hard to tell - you remember it was raining that morning.)

Let me emphasize, though, we don't have any reason whatsover to believe that this car or its driver are in any way involved with the murder of Missy Bevers. In the interest of following up on every possible lead, this is the last lead that hasn't been exhausted from that video canvassing. We'd like to talk to the driver of that car and they can contact us at our established tipline or our non-emergency number.

But again, we don't believe this is the vehicle of the killer. We don't believe that there's necessarily any connection to the offenses. It's well over an hour before the killer is believed to have come onto the scene at the church, and it's arguable how visible the church may have been seen from that business on the morning when it was raining.

It's simply just an unfinished lead that we'd like to talk to that person and see if they have anything to add to the investigation."

FROM Q&A THAT FOLLOWED LATER:

Q: To be clear on the car, did it pull into SWFA's parking lot, or the church's parking lot?
Chief: "It pulled into SWFA's parking lot, and pulled out a few minutes later. Back onto 287."

Q: Do you have any detailed information that you can give us, chief, about this vehicle that pulled in, any other ...?
Chief: "No. There's a very sophisticated camera system at that store, but unfortunately due to the rain it really obscured the details that you would normally see when cars pulled into the driveway."

Chief (to a later question about the church's camera setup): "...Exterior cameras worked on an intermittent basis. So they were experiencing just some malfunctions.
We had video during previous times of exterior footage but on the day of the murder we don't have exterior footage from the cameras outside ...."

Q: Have you been able to determine if those cameras outside the church were corrupted in some kind of way?
Chief: "We don't believe they were. We believe it was just they (trails off, inaudible) - They were aware of the malfunction prior to the murder."

Is 287 the road the church is on?

 

[kimi_SFC]

I don't see a front plate. Only the sticker looking thing. TX veh have a front and rear plate. But in Arkansas for instance we only have the rear plate. Possible could have been someone traveling through and due to the storm pulled over. I know I have traveled 35E many times and pulled off for gas/potty break at Midlothian. But where I stop its off then right back on.

Is Texas a Two-Plate State? The Answer to Whether You Need a Front and Rear License Plate in Texas
[...]
Effective September 1, 2013, Section 504.943 of the Texas Transportation Code entitled, Operation of a Vehicle Without License Plate, was amended to provide punishment for not displaying a front license plate. It is now an offense to operate a vehicle that does not display two licenses plates, and the punishment for failure to have both license plates is a fine of up to $200.
[...]

https://www.versustexas.com/criminal/two-license-plates-texas/


(In California both are required. There is a grace period if you've just purchased the vehicle, but you have to have a sticker that is placed on the interior in the bottom right windshield)




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[liz b.]

I can not think of any other reason to bludgeon an unarmed little female fitness instructor to death.

I hear you. But, just reading cases here for a few years has made me see so many different motives for murder. jmo I believe this perp is a young male., and have from the start, but jmo

 

[Oregonmama]

i still stand by my original thought in thread # 1 .

Missy wasn't in the gym the last few weeks or feeling herself lately, got a creepy msg from someone she didn't know ( still think the perp used a fake profile to scare her)...

the perp was infatuated with her and she rejected him which would explain the above things we knew from LE and their interviews....

who was the perp? a fellow gym member or some one she met at a fitness conference....this murder was personal because she was stalked

 

[Sparky]

Let's leave the FB groups where they are....on FB and not here.

Thanks!

 

[Scout]

Is Texas a Two-Plate State? The Answer to Whether You Need a Front and Rear License Plate in Texas
[...]
Effective September 1, 2013, Section 504.943 of the Texas Transportation Code entitled, Operation of a Vehicle Without License Plate, was amended to provide punishment for not displaying a front license plate. It is now an offense to operate a vehicle that does not display two licenses plates, and the punishment for failure to have both license plates is a fine of up to $200.
[...]

https://www.versustexas.com/criminal/two-license-plates-texas/


(In California both are required. There is a grace period if you've just purchased the vehicle, but you have to have a sticker that is placed on the interior in the bottom right windshield)




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Why even talk about front plates when only the rear of the car is shown?

 

[lstiff]

I'm back. What did I miss? :greetings::greetings:

 

[ludakristen]

Why even talk about front plates when only the rear of the car is shown?

I believe someone asked for confirmation that the photo does, in fact, show the rear of the car. Someone on Twitter was posting a bunch of nonsense about the front fender in response to the MPD's tweet with the car photo. It was confusing.

 

[curiousjo]

Lots of oval stickers....

 

[atthelake]

Am I allowed to post screenshots from the Midlothian PD FB page?

No, link it and direct the poster to the post. Thanks!

If it appears in mainstream media , can we do a screen capture then?