TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #21

[PoirotryInMotion]

Like you, I think it would help if we could know for sure what the weather was like from 4am-5am. Because of the heavy rain and storms in the area around that time, we have often written about how hard it was (likely) raining. Yet one local wrote that it was NOT raining hard at that time, that it was lightly drizzling. Pouring rain and a light drizzle are different. In addition, my Houston friends often tell me that it can be pouring rain and flooding in one part of Houston but sunny in another part. So I don't feel like I could look up the weather on Weather. com to see what it was doing and get an accurate description.

The weather charts posted here are a big help showing weather on the hour. IIRC, there was also a local poster in these threads who reported it was only "lightly raining" at 4:45 AM...which s/he remembered specifically as the dog needed to go out and poster had to walk dog due to area coyotes. That was just 5 minutes before Swatperp was first seen on camera in the halls of CC.

(I've looked through my notes but cannot find the post, sorry! Think it was within this past week, though. Thread 19 or 20?)

 

[Michigan]

The church had a sign out front I believe stating there was video surveillance. The SP is on video fully disguised except for the eyes. Perhaps SP assumed there were working cameras everywhere and therefore concealed the license plate (if indeed the Altima was the killer's car). Maybe LE really does not have a pic of the license.

It seems very strange to me that they would only have video of MB and the killer separately and no video of the assault. I tend to believe LE is giving us truthful statements. So the fact that they say they have no video of the asssault leads me to believe they don't. But it just seems too coincidental. It doesn't make sense. Especially given that her body (according to NG) was found in the hallway.

All JMO

 

[arkansasmimi]

Folks have done a remarkable job trying to judge the height of the perp. I just don't understand why we cannot seem to accept LE's press conference update on the height of the SP. AND, comment not meant for the post I'm bumping off. A hard case to follow when there is no flow-

I do accept the LE reconstruction finding. Some other were working trying to figure out stuff. Thinking the Suspect was tall. I just stating this a diff angle than some other ss.

 

[FelicityLemon]

Our security cameras produce color video during daylight hours and only greyscale during the night. Could be same way for SWFA.

 

[observation]

I do accept the LE reconstruction finding. Some other were working trying to figure out stuff. Thinking the Suspect was tall. I just stating this a diff angle than some other ss.

5'2"- 5'7" NOT tall. This update in fact shows it's a female or shorter than average male. I take this as fact.

 

[rsd1200]

I think comparing MB to Jody Foster or John Lennon is a bit of a stretch. MB was not famous like that. She was just an ordinary middle aged, physical fitness trainer and soccer mom. Not the type of person someone would likely become obsessed with, or want to kill. IMHO.

Those were the only examples I could come up with, without using a normal everyday human's name for example. People do get obsessed with other normal, everyday, people. There was one case where a mother had hired hit men to kill another mother to help their own child win a cheer-leading competition. People get obsessed with other people over some weird stuff all of the time. This person may have been in her classes at one point, looked up to her, tried to befriend her, but MB did not reciprocate to the extent that the other person felt she should. To some mentally unstable people this is something they cannot tolerate.

 

[SteveS]

The weather charts posted here are a big help showing weather on the hour. IIRC, there was also a local poster in these threads who reported it was only "lightly raining" at 4:45 AM...which s/he remembered specifically as the dog needed to go out and poster had to walk dog due to area coyotes. That was just 5 minutes before Swatperp was first seen on camera in the halls of CC.

(I've looked through my notes but cannot find the post, sorry! Think it was within this past week, though. Thread 19 or 20?)

The following weather info is taken from someone else's link, maybe the same as you noticed. From the closeby airport. They apparently took data every 20 minutes, for the hour-to-date. (We can see how much fell each 20 minutes by simple subtraction.)

Here is the precip that fell in each 20 minute interval from 2:00 to 5:00 that night (I have it in spreadsheet form, but I can't figure out how to add that to my post, so I'm just listing the bottom line data):

1:55-2:15 0.14 in
2:15-2:35 0.14 in
2:35-2:55 0.10 in
2:55-3:15 0.06 in
3:15-3:35 0.16 in
3:35-3:55 0.17 in
3:55-4:15 0.18 in
4:15-4:35 0.19 in
4:35-4:55 0.04 in

What I notice is that the rain was really heavy in the 3:15 to 4:35 window (bold), but started letting up after 4:35 and by about 5:00 was light. After that (which I have not posted), it let up further and then stopped.

That may help offer explanations for two things:
1 why the camper who arrived at 4:35 didn't go inside until near 5:00, waiting for the rain to subside, and
2 how the perp may have been able to drive away unnoticed ...not only the possibility of "he left earlier" but also that there was heavy rain further obscuring visibility until it let up approaching 5:00 am.

 

[QueenBea13]

Like you, I think it would help if we could know for sure what the weather was like from 4am-5am. Because of the heavy rain and storms in the area around that time, we have often written about how hard it was (likely) raining. Yet one local wrote that it was NOT raining hard at that time, that it was lightly drizzling. Pouring rain and a light drizzle are different. In addition, my Houston friends often tell me that it can be pouring rain and flooding in one part of Houston but sunny in another part. So I don't feel like I could look up the weather on Weather. com to see what it was doing and get an accurate description.

I agree but whether it was raining or drizzling I still think I would really be paying much attention, I mean if I was looking at my phone or something I wouldn't have been paying attention to where the car came from.

 

[No it's not]

Based on image of NISSAN provided by Midlothian PD, picture was cautiously enhanced (expo hdr) by me and may show a passenger possibly rear right seat:

 

[QueenBea13]

Respectfully, BBM I have not read that about the foyer headlight activating the camera. We also do not know for fact that the Suspect didn't drive around the building either. I would be interested in the link saying this as all I could find was just ones stating as I posted earlier, but not saying where the surveillance camera was that recording MB truck pulling in. TIA

I'll try to find it, I know I read it somewhere, I think...but I'll start looking [emoji4]

 

[Kamy]

I wish we knew about the outside cameras too.

During the PC on April 22, a reporter asked if the outdoor cameras were disabled by the suspect and he said they were still investigating that possibility but they currently don't believe the cameras were tampered with.

He also said there were some "technical issues there at the church" that caused some of the videos to activate while others did not.

And IIRC, he also said they were aware of the camera outside not working properly...they meaning those who operated the cameras at the church.
I'm pretty sure it was in this last presser. I'll have to try and find the link to it again to verify that for sure...but I'm almost positive cause because when I caught
that, I ruled out any tampering by the perp.

 

[No it's not]

The weather charts posted here are a big help showing weather on the hour. IIRC, there was also a local poster in these threads who reported it was only "lightly raining" at 4:45 AM...which s/he remembered specifically as the dog needed to go out and poster had to walk dog due to area coyotes. That was just 5 minutes before Swatperp was first seen on camera in the halls of CC. (I've looked through my notes but cannot find the post, sorry! Think it was within this past week, though. Thread 19 or 20?)

http://www.friendlyforecast.com/usa...on=TX&id=287443&date=20160418000000&sort=hour

 

[SteveS]

And IIRC, he also said they were aware of the camera outside not working properly...they meaning those who operated the cameras at the church.
I'm pretty sure it was in this last presser. I'll have to try and find the link to it again to verify that for sure...but I'm almost positive cause because when I caught
that, I ruled out any tampering by the perp.

LE at Fri presser, in reply: "They [church] were aware of the [outdoor camera] malfunction prior to the murder."

As to whether they were tampered with: "We don't believe they were."

About those cameras and footage that night: ""...Exterior cameras worked on an intermittent basis. So they were experiencing just some malfunctions.
We had video during previous times of exterior footage but on the day of the murder we don't have exterior footage from the cameras outside ...."

 

[arkansasmimi]

5'2"- 5'7" NOT tall. This update in fact shows it's a female or shorter than average male. I take this as fact.

I am 5'5 and 2 inches is taller than me I def dont see 5'2 though. but IIRC they were still going with the orig guess estimates. Again I take the reconstruction being correct. Whether it is what was told or different.

 

[Murrayforlife]

I think "the mirror light" on the Altima was a parking lot light from the gun store. Also, it is clearly 287 out the front of the car.

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

LMAO Stay away from NG!! You will be fine.... thats where ya got screwed up lol she has her going in the FRONT door lol illowfight2:

Well, I'd agree with the NG advice; not very reliable with the facts, IMHO. But still, this "main door under the awning" expression has had me confused, because 1) both doors have a roof protrusion, 2) both have been referred to as 'main' doors in reporting and/or posts, and 3) in the presser LE said that they saw on the video that after MB entered she 'is seen walking down the hall to where the suspect was'.

But they've also stated MB was not killed on video AND that her body was found "in the SW corner of the building."

The SW corner of the building is right where she was unloading her equipment under the awning. So how could she 'walk down the hall to where the suspect was' if she was killed right by the SW entrance?

Pardon my use of NG's floorplan, but apart from the fact that NG has MB dying in the hallway in full view of the cams at that SW entrance (was camera shot out or disabled suddenly??), you can also see that there is virtually no 'walking down' the hallway if MB is walking from the SW entrance toward the front (west) main entrance. And we know perp wasn't waiting for her at the north end of the hall because she was killed at the SW end, so it seems that was where she was walking toward: so did she enter by the front (west) doors with the soaring atrium? If she had a key or card pass, would that main front (west) one be the only door to enter by?



I think it would be less of a muddle if LE and reporters could agree on what the "main door" of the building was.

ETA: I can't stand looking at this photo sideways (easily confused) , so here you go, if you prefer to see it sited on the page closer to how it is on the map:



ETA: OR, is NG saying she was killed in that SW room where the red arrow is pointing? (Seems the cameras would still need to have been disabled, though.)

 

[arkansasmimi]

5'2"- 5'7" NOT tall. This update in fact shows it's a female or shorter than average male. I take this as fact.

I am 5'5 and 2 inches is taller than me I def dont see 5'2 though. but IIRC they were still going with the orig guess estimates. Again I take the reconstruction being correct. Whether it is what was told or different.

 

[Batbrat]

Why did the swat perp choose the church to make his/her kill? If the mission was just to kill Missy, why didn't they just pass her on the highway & fire a shot into her truck & kill her on what was almost very certainly a deserted street at that time of day? Or shoot her as she pulled out of her driveway? I know we have talked about the likelihood of a gun being traced. However, the gun must be found before it can be traced. It would be as easy to dispose of gun as it would be to dispose of bloody clothing. IMO, the killer wanted the kill to be up close & personal for whatever reason. It would not surprise me if the killer told Missy why he/she was killing her. Also, SP was also confident that they had the strength to overpower Missy if she fought for her life.
All is JMO, IMO,MOO.

I wondered about that too. What I figure is that the murderer chose a location away from her home and her children. Too much risk of having witnesses - potentially witnesses that could identify you or chase you.

As far as the "why not a gun?" question. The no gun angle is what makes me believe MB knew her killer. Probably well.

If you've ever handled a gun, you know how tricky it can be to nail a target at any distance. Especially a moving target. And while it's possible to kill someone with one shot, the likelihood of that is surprisingly small unless you are point blank. If you absolutely want someone dead and you don't want to get caught, using a gun is actually a bad choice. Especially if you know the victim. Guns are loud - potentially attracting attention and other witnesses to your crime. Guns aren't anonymous - they leave ballistics and trace evidence behind. If someone close to you is murdered with a gun, you will likely be asked to turn your gun(s) over to LE. Your firearm records will be looked into, including evidence of marksmanship practice, ammo purchases, etc.

Killing someone by hand requires a lot of adrenaline. A lot of buildup. Emotion. Rage. Desperation. If you know your victim, there is no turning back once you've started. If you don't finish the job, you risk being identified and you fail in your mission. So a murder of this kind virtually guarantees death if you might be prone to hesitate or chicken out due to emotional attachment to your victim.

All of this tells me had she survived, she might have been able to identify her attacker.

 

[Kamy]

LE at Fri presser, in reply: "They [church] were aware of the [outdoor camera] malfunction prior to the murder."

As to whether they were tampered with: "We don't believe they were."

About those cameras and footage that night: ""...Exterior cameras worked on an intermittent basis. So they were experiencing just some malfunctions.
We had video during previous times of exterior footage but on the day of the murder we don't have exterior footage from the cameras outside ...."

Thank you! I was feverishly trying to find the presser link cause I new I needed to verify my memory.

 

[klosssm]

I'm sorry, I have a hard time believing that license plate is unreadable. I think LE has a plan, maybe not the best, but cmon, they are not going to give away their hard earned fact finding investigation for the public. These are tidbits for info. We are all hungry for
an arrest...it will come