TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #24

[CHUCKJ]

Jumping off your comment about the glass... We've been given very little specifics about MB's injuries. All we really know is "puncture wounds to the head and chest."

We know that there are glass tables in the general area where she was found. What if the puncture wounds came from her crashing into a glass table and shattering it?

I know a coroner would be able to tell the difference, but I'm not sure that the police would. Or possibly they held that info back as something only the killer would know.

No. LE made statement early on that puncture wounds consistant with tool the suspect was carrying. Please no offence intended, but this is what im talking about when I said, there are too many instances of making wild speculation, bassed on either nothing, or not being well versed in what we actually do already know.

 

[JnRyan]

I keep seeing a repeated theme, regarding DNA evidence. As much as we would like to believe that real life is like CSI; It's not. This suspect was fully clothed, wearing a very consealing helment and face mask and gloves. Unless he/she drank somthing, smoked a ciggaret, wiped his/or her but, or dripped sweat onto somthing obvious that didn't evaporate before evidence was being collected, its very unlikley that LE will recover any DNA. It is possible that a hair or hairs may have been colected, but with a public facility and many bodies in and out there would probably be several laying around and then unless it were actually found on the body it wouldnt do much good as evidence and anyone could claim to have been in the church at some point.

If Missy was targeted (and I believe she was) this shows why this choice of where to commit the murder was much better than her home. Church services on Sunday and who knows how many people have been through and potentially left DNA trace evidence. The church is likely not scheduled to have a janitor, volunteer cleaners or cleaning service come through until Monday, probably 0800 at the earliest. Probably the only place to collect DNA evidence is on Missy herself. Otherwise, a lot of DNA evidence could be collected elsewhere and it would be from persons who have nothing to do with this murder. And with the way the killer was dressed it probably lowers the possibility of collecting anything off Missy.

Probably the only thing that might give LE something to work with would be if there was evidence from a pet - a dog or a cat. What are the chances of either in the church? The killer might have inadvertently picked up a pet hair or dandruff from their car or where they kept the clothing before wearing it. If such is found on Missy, for example, dog hair and Missy owns a cat but not a dog there is something for LE. If the killer had an animal less common like a ferret or a parrot, then that narrows it down considerably. Or really anything else found on Missy that is out of ordinary and she would have had no reason to be exposed to it or have it on her. But it would have been a result of something that had been in the killer's vehicle and they picked it up - regardless of plastic on seats or elsewhere - or where it was stored before wearing it.

 

[Nehemiah]

I seem to recall them doing this in the Holly Bobo case. and I'm sure many others. IMO.

True. Several sleuths were able to determine the perps simply by keeping up with those who were arrested on lesser charges and then transferred to other jail facilities for no apparent reason. It seemed to be a carefully orchestrated ongoing event by LE. And, Holly was targeted for no real reason that we know of other than pure evil/desire. These things could also figure into MB's case IMO.

 

[Cannonball3804]

No. LE made statement early on that puncture wounds consistant with tool the suspect was carrying. Please no offence intended, but this is what im talking about when I said, there are too many instances of making wild speculation, bassed on either nothing, or not being well versed in what we actually do already know.

LE made a lot of comments early on, like clearly believing it was a botched robbery, then that the killer had been in contact with MB, and that the killer had an injured right foot. It might turn out that none of those three things are true.

The consistent with a hammer comment was made once and only once. And we don't know what the coroner's report actually said, because it hasn't been released. So I think it's worthwhile for us to occasionally challenge the things that we "think" we know.

 

[CHUCKJ]

Since the Police attire and tools were so complete I wondered if he also wore a body cam and was in contact with someone who could give him a heads up when Missy was arriving, maybe someone waiting outside in a silver Nissan.

LE has stated that they have suspect vehicle on video, but that it is to distant to make out make and model.

 

[Cannonball3804]

No. LE made statement early on that puncture wounds consistant with tool the suspect was carrying. Please no offence intended, but this is what im talking about when I said, there are too many instances of making wild speculation, bassed on either nothing, or not being well versed in what we actually do already know.

One other comment to add to my last post - saying a wound is "consistent" with a hammer falls short of saying a wound was "caused by" a hammer. At trial, the prosecution would provide expert testimony to bolster that argument. But right now, it's no more certain than LE saying "we believe the suspect may have an injured right foot." (By the way, that's one of the things posters think they know, judging from all the fracture talk on here. But it's clear to me at least that when the perp walks down the long hallway and back at a straight-on camera view, both feet turn outward equally).

 

[HEY YOU!]

If Missy was targeted (and I believe she was) this shows why this choice of where to commit the murder was much better than her home. Church services on Sunday and who knows how many people have been through and potentially left DNA trace evidence. The church is likely not scheduled to have a janitor, volunteer cleaners or cleaning service come through until Monday, probably 0800 at the earliest. Probably the only place to collect DNA evidence is on Missy herself. Otherwise, a lot of DNA evidence could be collected elsewhere and it would be from persons who have nothing to do with this murder. And with the way the killer was dressed it probably lowers the possibility of collecting anything off Missy.

Probably the only thing that might give LE something to work with would be if there was evidence from a pet - a dog or a cat. What are the chances of either in the church? The killer might have inadvertently picked up a pet hair or dandruff from their car or where they kept the clothing before wearing it. If such is found on Missy, for example, dog hair and Missy owns a cat but not a dog there is something for LE. If the killer had an animal less common like a ferret or a parrot, then that narrows it down considerably. Or really anything else found on Missy that is out of ordinary and she would have had no reason to be exposed to it or have it on her. But it would have been a result of something that had been in the killer's vehicle and they picked it up - regardless of plastic on seats or elsewhere - or where it was stored before wearing it.

And this well prepared perp must have planned ahead to where to dump the SWAT clothes. It seems to make sense that they would have taken them off before leaving so as not to leave trace evidence in their vehicle. But that would mean possibly leaving trace evidence where they disrobed (CC kitchen?) I can see perp bringing large garbage bags to stuff bloody Swat outfit into prior to getting into car. They must have put bags in trunk of car, obviously they would not have left the bags at church on nearby. Cops knew of videotape right away, they knew perp had a bloody disguise to dispose of. I'm sure they notified waste disposal companies and landfills were searched. Unless perp actually used saran wrap to cover Missy and bludgeon her so there was no spatter? Perp certainly planned well ahead of time.

Where do you think perp dumped SWAT clothes? Do they still have them? Did perp travel far away and dump in a random town? Were they dumped within a 10 mile radius of crime? I don't see them anywhere but a random dumpster far away or still with perp who is waiting for heat to die down.

 

[TenaciousTBacon]

I can't thank this post on mobile but I will say Bravo back at you for this post. Your points are well thought out, they make more sense than most posts over the last few weeks. Thank you.

 

[cady]

LE has stated that they have suspect vehicle on video, but that it is to distant to make out make and model.

LE never stated that. They don't even know if perp had a vehicle. JMO

 

[ktrca]

I had thought that we are seeing the strap that holds the leg guards on wrapped around behind the knee.

correct. IMo

 

[Bootsctr]

Do the locals know for a fact that MB was having an affair with AT? Or is it just a rumor?

Rumor.

 

[Scout]

The perp I am pretty, well 99.9% sure is wearing standard BDU's lots o' pockets to stuff lots o' stuffs to commit lots o' damage.

BDUs, yes. Police have stated that as well.

 

[JnRyan]

And this well prepared perp must have planned ahead to where to dump the SWAT clothes. It seems to make sense that they would have taken them off before leaving so as not to leave trace evidence in their vehicle. But that would mean possibly leaving trace evidence where they disrobed (CC kitchen?) I can see perp bringing large garbage bags to stuff bloody Swat outfit into prior to getting into car. They must have put bags in trunk of car, obviously they would not have left the bags at church on nearby. Cops knew of videotape right away, they knew perp had a bloody disguise to dispose of. I'm sure they notified waste disposal companies and landfills were searched. Unless perp actually used saran wrap to cover Missy and bludgeon her so there was no spatter? Perp certainly planned well ahead of time.

I can't see the killer taking the clothes off in the kitchen or bathroom as this might increase the chance of leaving trace evidence. (I believe LE stated that they didn't have the killer on video during or after the murder so if the killer did do that LE probably would not know. But if the killer knew there were cameras inside they would probably operate on the assumption that they were always being recorded and were less likely to take the clothes off inside the church.) I don't see them doing it outside either as the priority would be to leave the area ASAP to decrease the chance of their vehicle being seen leaving. In any event, though, I agree that the clothing and helmet ended up in garbage bags, deposited in a dumpster somewhere and are now in a landfill hidden inside those bags.

 

[zoeneli]

One other comment to add to my last post - saying a wound is "consistent" with a hammer falls short of saying a wound was "caused by" a hammer. At trial, the prosecution would provide expert testimony to bolster that argument. But right now, it's no more certain than LE saying "we believe the suspect may have an injured right foot." (By the way, that's one of the things posters think they know, judging from all the fracture talk on here. But it's clear to me at least that when the perp walks down the long hallway and back at a straight-on camera view, both feet turn outward equally).

I see the turn out much more on the right, but I don't see it so much as any sort of current or recent injury. I don't see any sort of pain or hesitation when stepping. Starting around 1:08 I see a fairly significant turn out when weight is lifted off the right foot. It is easiest for me to see when they walk on the tile. The left foot comes down parallel to the tile line, while the right foot turns out when lifted and then comes down at a good angle compared to the tile lines. I see it in the beginning of video as well, perp walking away from camera - foot almost turns out in the air when lifted.

That being said, I am able to find spots in the video that almost always contradict something I think I see in another spot....I can't even come to a solid conclusion on right or left handed.

 

[ktrca]

from the Dallas Morning News : " [FONT=Merriweather, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Terri “Missy” Bevers was found unresponsive in the Creekside Church of Christ on April 18. She died of a head wound. The warrant, issued late April 19 and obtained by NBC5 on Tuesday, stated that Bevers’ wounds “are consistent with tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building.”[/FONT]
[FONT=Merriweather, Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]Tools implies plural and we know the perp had at least something in their left hand at one point and a crowbar as well, which does not necessarily mean she was killed with the hammer.[/FONT] <modsnip>

 

[ktrca]

from the Dallas Morning News : " Terri &#8220;Missy&#8221; Bevers was found unresponsive in the Creekside Church of Christ on April 18. She died of a head wound. The warrant, issued late April 19 and obtained by NBC5 on Tuesday, stated that Bevers&#8217; wounds &#8220;are consistent with tools the suspect was carrying throughout the building.&#8221; <modsnip>
Tools implies plural and we know the perp had at least something in their left hand at one point and a crowbar as well, which does not necessarily mean she was killed with the hammer.

Oh and just to add, there is 28 minutes of video we don't see, who the hell knows what other tools this homicidal maniac had in their arsenal?

 

[WannaBDetective]

I can't see the killer taking the clothes off in the kitchen or bathroom as this might increase the chance of leaving trace evidence. (I believe LE stated that they didn't have the killer on video during or after the murder so if the killer did do that LE probably would not know. But if the killer knew there were cameras inside they would probably operate on the assumption that they were always being recorded and were less likely to take the clothes off inside the church.) I don't see them doing it outside either as the priority would be to leave the area ASAP to decrease the chance of their vehicle being seen leaving. In any event, though, I agree that the clothing and helmet ended up in garbage bags, deposited in a dumpster somewhere and are now in a landfill hidden inside those bags.

Agree. As well thought thru as this appears taking off clothing and gear seems risky. I'd put on a cover. Rain coat etc. and get a couple hours away and dispose of everything

 

[Sparky]

Oh and just to add, there is 28 minutes of video we don't see, who the hell knows what other tools this homicidal maniac had in their arsenal?

Do you have a link by chance mentioning the 28 minutes? TIA

 

[cady]

Oh and just to add, there is 28 minutes of video we don't see, who the hell knows what other tools this homicidal maniac had in their arsenal?

According to LE the murder was not captured on video and the perps exit from the building was not captured either. There could be some video of perp going toward the kitchen to exit but that would be only a minute or so. The only thing I can figure is since the cameras are motion-activated, they activated when the campers entered the church and found Missy....maybe that is the other 20 odd minutes with EMS entering, etc. We probably won't see it til trial because the identity of the campers and EMS would be known. Maybe. JMO............................however much time there is of video, there had to have been MOTION.

 

[Heather301]

What if the SP had been going to boot camp classes and was sore and that's the reason they were walking funny? I know after a hard leg workout with lots of squats and lunges I walk a little funny for a couple of days. If they were following Missy and had been in Austin all they had to do was pretend they were working out and blend in. If they weren't used to working out as hard as CG that could cause lots of stiffness and sore muscles. Just something that came to mind this morning.