TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #25

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What did you and Sparky hear?

I was agreeing with Boots about NG. I heard he went to MS and she went to Austin. Sorry I should of clarified.
 
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This is not what I heard on NG, but I admit I tuned out Nancy's misguided speculation.

The following is from the narration of a male reporter included in her program:

"Police confirm Bevers' husband Brandon knew about her infidelity in the relationship and he told police about it. Police extracted deleted information from Missy Bevers' phone -- information that confirmed an affair."

Who was that male reporter? It sounded sort of like Ryan... what's-his-name...
 
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The internet is a scary place. I was idly searching for extendable or collapsible batons that can be used in takedowns, self defense, break-ins etc. I am now getting ads pop up for different sites for these items, right alongside the ads for tactical headlights and flashlights that I searched weeks ago.
Time to clean up.
 
  • #246
Maybe escalation?

Sorry~~just catching up~~work keeps getting in the way of my sleuthing...LOL

This morning/afternoon~~there was discussion again about the creepy LinkedIn message. Throwing out a plausible scenario here. Is is possible since MB was communicating with several people on LinkedIn that one of those people she was flirting with (was it ever confirmed it was more than 1??) was more than just flirting~~thought they had a special relationship and created a fake profile to see if she was sincere in her relationship with this person. Then when they found out she would flirt with other people was enraged enough to want to kill her? Thus the creepy message. Just throwing that thought out there.

Someone else said, they felt the LinkedIn message was a clue~~I didn't put much importance on it before because it couldn't be verified~~but maybe the sleuther is right and something that seems so insignificant is really really a bombshell.
 
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Incorrect. The "(s)" structure is known as an "optional plural." It denotes "one or more."

And no one ever said she had a physically intimate relationship. LE did say she had intimate communications with someone, and that is a "relationship", though not necessarily a physical one. And it is the only external relationship that has been communicated to us.

TxMommy back on page 33 of Thread 19 from two weeks ago basically said the same thing I took issue with today. Quote:

"Can I ask why so many posters seem to have such a hard time with the notion of BB having an affair but have pretty much accepted that MB was having multiple affairs?

Is there something in the search warrant that specifies which one of them was having affairs and which one wasn't?

Because it is my understanding that BOTH of them engaged in extracurricular activities, so-to-speak."

With no evidence whatsoever of BB having an external relationship, it is just rumor. That is something we are not supposed to bring here.
I wasn't basing my assumption about both of them having affairs on rumor- but rather my interpretation of the the search warrant.
 
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This is not what I heard on NG, but I admit I tuned out Nancy's misguided speculation.

The following is from the narration of a male reporter included in her program:

"Police confirm Bevers' husband Brandon knew about her infidelity in the relationship and he told police about it. Police extracted deleted information from Missy Bevers' phone -- information that confirmed an affair."

The warrant says:


In the course of our investigation we have had multiple references to the Decedent’s social media accounts, specifically her Linkedln account. Linkedln is a social media networking service used to make connections to others. In the course of our investigation, we have received information from interviews conducted with persons of interest and persons close to the victim that the decedent was a regular user of Linkedln. During one such interview a friend of the victim told law enforcement that less than three days before the murder, the victim showed this friend a private message from the victim’s Linkedln account.

Did Missy show that message to BB also? Or there were two people who knew about the private message from a LinkedIn account? Maybe it's a leap...?
 
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I don't know what you're disagreeing with, because your post did not address a single thing I actually said.
I generally disagreed with your entire post. You appear to only consider that the 'external relationship(s) could only pertain to MB and not be pertaining to both partners in the marriage. LE didn't differentiate that it was more than one for MB or that each of the married pair had engaged in external relationship(s). All concentration has been put upon MB and no consideration has been given that BB had also had a relationship outside of the marriage. Outside of the SW, only BB and his mother have referred to MB's "flirty" SM communication to another man.

IMO BB beat it down to LE to 'talk about things that were on his mind, and leaning on God' in order to explain what he knew LE would find after getting the SW for his two phones.

Part of Your post: Snipped by me:

"Same thing with the prior "relationship(s)". They were aware of one, and they mentioned it specifically - the conversations with CW that began in January and continued up until MB's death and turned flirty and familiar and intimate in nature. But at that early point in the investigation, they didn't know what else they were going to uncover. So rather than paint themselves into a corner and mislead someone into thinking there had been a singular external relationship to the marriage, they put the optional plural in there.

Did MB have more than one external relationship? We have nothing to indicate that she did. But we can discuss the one that we do know of, although it would be unfair to speculate that it was physical as there is no evidence to support that. Do I judge or shame Missy for the relationship with CW? Absolutely not. And what is considered "flirty, familiar, intimate" has a wide latitude of subjectivity, so it might not be nearly as intimate to us as it might have been to LE who read it.

But bottom line, we have documentation of some kind of relationship on MB's behalf, and the speculation isn't to judge her but to figure out if the murder was somehow connected. That's fair to do. What isn't fair, IMHO, is to accuse her husband of indiscretions that have no basis whatsoever that we know of, other than local rumor mill. And there is nothing more untrustworthy than a local rumor mill. MHO."
 
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Hey Folks,

Let's agree to disagree and move away from the affairs for the night. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Thanks!
 
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What is the Cowboy Church?

Missy and Brandon were members. http://cowboyfaith.org/

Here is their website:

Cowboy Church has grown larger and more diverse since those early days. With more than 1700 in regular attendance, you are just as likely to encounter a biker, teacher, or police officer as you are a cowboy. However, some things have not changed. Despite its size, Cowboy Church maintains its rural western atmosphere and it continues to be a place where people come as they are, but leave changed.

lol! A biker, a teacher and a police officer. That's wierd.
 
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This is not what I heard on NG, but I admit I tuned out Nancy's misguided speculation.

The following is from the narration of a male reporter included in her program:

"Police confirm Bevers' husband Brandon knew about her infidelity in the relationship and he told police about it. Police extracted deleted information from Missy Bevers' phone -- information that confirmed an affair."

I heard the statement too and took it as the reporter's synopsis of his interpretation of BB's comments.
 
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Hey Folks,

Let's agree to disagree and move away from the affairs for the night. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Thanks!

Thanks Sparky! :offtobed:
 
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Mouth slobber from the ski mask or baklava. Maybe spit on Missy or sweat dripped.

I'm hoping. Especially since there was supposedly "signs of a struggle" If she had the chance MB could have topped him. She looked to be a very physically strong,well co-ordinated woman. But, I also read that she was 'ambushed" so...jmo
 
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One thing that bothers me is that LE has to have video of the killer leaving the church after Missy was murdered. They haven't shown us any of that video but it should pinpoint exactly what time the killer left the building. This is important because one of the students arrived early for the class and was sitting in the parking lot in her car. So why didn't she see someone exit the building? Why was the killer comfortable cutting it so close timewise to when other people would be arriving at the church? That was a big risk. He or she could've run into someone as they were coming to class, instead the killer seems to be in no hurry at all, waiting around in the church after Missy arrived but before attacking her.

I find this curious. SP is there 1st, MB is there 2nd and Camper 1 (C1) is there 3rd. MB never leaves and C1 presumably never leaves (waits in car for friends to go in, finds body and calls 911?) Someone from the scene called MT (BB bio mom) and it is rumored that someone called BB before LE to notify of MB "accident". I need to establish a verified timeline VS the unknowns bc IMO something is just off, I'm not sure what piece it is. Ok, we haven't heard any interviews or statements from any CG campers there that morning, haven't heard the 911 call and IIRC LE never stated the camera picked up C1 entering lot at 4:35. :thinking: :thinking:

IMO
 
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I find this curious. SP is there 1st, MB is there 2nd and Camper 1 (C1) is there 3rd. MB never leaves and C1 presumably never leaves (waits in car for friends to go in, finds body and calls 911?) Someone from the scene called MT (BB bio mom) and it is rumored that someone called BB before LE to notify of MB "accident". I need to establish a verified timeline VS the unknowns bc IMO something is just off, I'm not sure what piece it is. Ok, we haven't heard any interviews or statements from any CG campers there that morning, haven't heard the 911 call and IIRC LE never stated the camera picked up C1 entering lot at 4:35. :thinking: :thinking:

IMO

Very true. And almost no reporting about how MB's body appeared when she was found. Had her body been posed ? Was she found fully clothed ? We were told there were "signs of a struggle", but not much more. jmo
 
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I find this curious. SP is there 1st, MB is there 2nd and Camper 1 (C1) is there 3rd. MB never leaves and C1 presumably never leaves (waits in car for friends to go in, finds body and calls 911?) Someone from the scene called MT (BB bio mom) and it is rumored that someone called BB before LE to notify of MB "accident". I need to establish a verified timeline VS the unknowns bc IMO something is just off, I'm not sure what piece it is. Ok, we haven't heard any interviews or statements from any CG campers there that morning, haven't heard the 911 call and IIRC LE never stated the camera picked up C1 entering lot at 4:35. :thinking: :thinking:

IMO

Good to see you, lstiff!
I never knew one of the CG-ers called MT (BB's bio mom) from the scene. I thought one of them called BB and there were two separate calls to 911 but I could be wrong?
 
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bbm: Unless the perp already owned the outfit? I have thought about this being a LE person committing the crime. Maybe hired? I think if an ordinary person were to get an outfit like this together, they wouldn't bother with the "POLICE" lettering on front and back as long as they were still fully covered? It probably isn't a real LE person but it has crossed my mind due to the "official" police lettering. I think you can buy that, however. But again, why not just buy the plain black outfits like that? Unless it's more for the "fear factor" when your victim sees you?

To me I don't see the "fear factor". I see get up close with MB at ease before striking. This leads me to believe Missy could potentially get away (run) or could overpower the perp. Thus, the need to put her at ease to get close enough to her.
 
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Does anybody know if there have been more SW issued that haven't been released to the public? What determines if or when a SW is released to the public? TIA
 
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