TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #25

[Bootsctr]

They may but how many people had been in the location in the days and weeks before the murder. Could that make it hard to prove? Just wondering

I think they are going to have to rely on the phones. Or the person is on more than one list/search warrant.

 

[Cannonball3804]

There has been nothing in MSM or from LE about indiscretions on BB's part.

From what I understand, the warrant wasn't specific in regards to which parties were having relationships outside of the marriage, but it seems to me that people have focused solely on MB as the guilty party. IMO, they were both having extramarital relationships. .

The SW said evidence of external relationship(s). That structure can mean one or more than one. It's a way of phrasing that doesn't put LE in a corner. So it could very well be singular, we don't know.What we do know is that MB definitely had an intimate relationship according to LE. Nothing whatsoever regarding BB. So why just make that up with no basis?

Respectfully disagree. When LE adds the "s" onto relationship, it means more than one. It could mean both parties. It does not denote singular but it could mean one side of the marriage was having multiple relationships outside of the marriage OR that both sides of the marriage were both having relationships with others. Additionally, I have not seen evidence that MB was having **intimate** relations with anyone outside of the marriage. An intimate LinkedIn **conversation** does not necessarily mean there was a physically intimate relationship.

Unless one knows both parties well enough, everything is just speculation about relationships outside of their marriage. Moo

Incorrect. The "(s)" structure is known as an "optional plural." It denotes "one or more." And no one ever said she had a physically intimate relationship. LE did say she had intimate communications with someone, and that is a "relationship", though not necessarily a physical one. And it is the only external relationship that has been communicated to us.

TxMommy back on page 33 of Thread 19 from two weeks ago basically said the same thing I took issue with today. Quote:

"Can I ask why so many posters seem to have such a hard time with the notion of BB having an affair but have pretty much accepted that MB was having multiple affairs? Is there something in the search warrant that specifies which one of them was having affairs and which one wasn't? Because it is my understanding that BOTH of them engaged in extracurricular activities, so-to-speak."

With no evidence whatsoever of BB having an external relationship, it is just rumor. That is something we are not supposed to bring here.

TasteOfHoney, let me offer another example to better illustrate the "optional plural" and its intent to refer to "one or more":

In the AT&T SW, on p.3 and in section 2, you'll find the phrase "This information is believed to be imperative in locating a suspect(s)..."

This is coming from the same source (MPD) as the other SW which used the term "relationship(s)." The MPD clearly wants to express that they're looking for one or more suspects. They don't know how many suspects are involved. So they want to give themselves some wiggle room that there might be just one suspect, or there might be more than one. So better to phrase it as they did, instead of saying, "locating a suspect."

Same thing with the prior "relationship(s)". They were aware of one, and they mentioned it specifically - the conversations with CW that began in January and continued up until MB's death and turned flirty and familiar and intimate in nature. But at that early point in the investigation, they didn't know what else they were going to uncover. So rather than paint themselves into a corner and mislead someone into thinking there had been a singular external relationship to the marriage, they put the optional plural in there.

Did MB have more than one external relationship? We have nothing to indicate that she did. But we can discuss the one that we do know of, although it would be unfair to speculate that it was physical as there is no evidence to support that. Do I judge or shame Missy for the relationship with CW? Absolutely not. And what is considered "flirty, familiar, intimate" has a wide latitude of subjectivity, so it might not be nearly as intimate to us as it might have been to LE who read it.

But bottom line, we have documentation of some kind of relationship on MB's behalf, and the speculation isn't to judge her but to figure out if the murder was somehow connected. That's fair to do. What isn't fair, IMHO, is to accuse her husband of indiscretions that have no basis whatsoever that we know of, other than local rumor mill. And there is nothing more untrustworthy than a local rumor mill. MHO.

 

[Bill Carson]

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[Deleted member 718]

At the end of NG's show, she certainly implied there was "straying" outside of the marriage by both husband and wife. fwiw

Straying is my choice of wording. One can take what she said anyway they want. A little flirting, or as some couples enjoy - swinging? We don't know. Is it connected to Missy's murder? We don't know. It must be hell for the entire family of the deceased. To have their private lives become public knowledge.

 

[arkansasmimi]

just got home. glad the flood waited til our day was finished... Googled see a few new articles, no arrest... marking spot bbl.
:discuss:see what ya'll have figured out in these 14 pages.

 

[rodee34]

just got home. glad the flood waited til our day was finished... Googled see a few new articles, no arrest... marking spot bbl.
:discuss:see what ya'll have figured out in these 14 pages.

UPDATE: nada

 

[msboo]

Tonight Nancy Grace Mysteries. on HLN, went over the case. Said they had completely eliminated 9 people who were friends and/or knew thru her classes---maybe that's newer info? I've not kept up on this thread so this documentary tonight helped me. Reading here now.

 

[Bootsctr]

I'm beginning to think BB might have a lawyer... I would, if only to prevent my cell phone data from being released, and if I was a swinger, and not a murderer.

Just My Opinion!

 

[Scout]

Male reporter on Nancy Grace: "Police confirm Bevers' husband Brandon knew about her infidelity in the relationship and he told police about it. Police extracted deleted information from Missy Bevers' phone -- information that confirmed an affair."

 

[Deleted member 718]

I've come to the conclusion that MPD has run out of ideas. I really have.

June 3, 2016 6:35 pm
"Detectives say they are stymied in their investigation into the murder of a fitness instructor in Midlothian"

 

[Bootsctr]

1. The NYPD is still working with their amazing "Stingray."

2. The car info was really stressed as last lead.

3. Touched on the FB requests after Missy's death.

4. Mentioned relationships outside the marriage. Same weekend each went separate ways. Missy went to Austin and Brandon went to Mississippi.

 

[Seriously?]

This is from the warrant, so whatever the number and/or nature of relationship(s), it sounds like it wasn't exactly a secret. Says "confirm statements and tips"............... Perhaps more folks knew than the public thinks. And clearly doesn't indicate pointing fingers at only the victim. Just saying.....

 

[Cannonball3804]

1. The NYPD is still working with their amazing "Stingray."

4. Mentioned relationships outside the marriage. Same weekend each went separate ways. Missy went to Austin and Brandon went to Mississippi.

We can always depend on NG and her guests to either tell us what we already know (item 1) or to get things factually wrong (item 4).

 

[lonetraveler]

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The SW said evidence of external relationship(s). That structure can mean one or more than one. It's a way of phrasing that doesn't put LE in a corner. So it could very well be singular, we don't know.

What we do know is that MB definitely had an intimate relationship according to LE. Nothing whatsoever regarding BB. So why just make that up with no basis?

I do believe this is a simple how you interpret what the SW statement means. It could be more than one relationship by one person or external relationship(s) by each, ie., the wife and the husband. Matter of interpretation. LE has not differentiated either way, thus it is open for any of us to interpret.

 

[SKresearch]

A cop friend.

If it was not even known what the perp in this case was wearing,

[how would "a cop friend", come into play. (unless they just flat-out knew who did it.)]

 

[lonetraveler]

I'm beginning to think BB might have a lawyer... I would, if only to prevent my cell phone data from being released, and if I was a swinger, and not a murderer.

Just My Opinion!

You are probably right but it must be really recent because the attorney would surely advise him to shut the heck up and stop blabbing in front of the press.

 

[Bootsctr]

If it was not even known what the perp in this case was wearing,

[how would "a cop friend", come into play. (unless they just flat-out knew who did it.)]

Maybe it was borrowed from a spouse of a cop. Maybe some person is missing some gear, but afraid to say anything. DNA and all...

Maybe the gear has even been returned by now and is no longer missing. Maybe it was missing from a certain PD and they never realized it... Certain parts of it.

 

[Scout]

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4. Mentioned relationships outside the marriage. Same weekend each went separate ways. Missy went to Austin and Brandon went to Mississippi.

This is not what I heard on NG, but I admit I tuned out Nancy's misguided speculation.

The following is from the narration of a male reporter included in her program:

"Police confirm Bevers' husband Brandon knew about her infidelity in the relationship and he told police about it. Police extracted deleted information from Missy Bevers' phone -- information that confirmed an affair."

 

[Bootsctr]

You are probably right but it must be really recent because the attorney would surely advise him to shut the heck up and stop blabbing in front of the press.

I think he is under pressure either by himself or externally to keep talking. Blackmail.

 

[Bootsctr]

This is not what I heard on NG, but I admit I tuned out Nancy's misguided speculation.

The following is from the narration of a male reporter included in her program:

"Police confirm Bevers' husband Brandon knew about her infidelity in the relationship and he told police about it. Police extracted deleted information from Missy Bevers' phone -- information that confirmed an affair."

Will there be a transcript?