TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #25

[Razz]

Wasn't she found surrounded by glass? Was the glass vestibule broken?

Supposedly,(surrounded by glass.) But who knows what was in that vestibule that could have been broken during a scuffle other than the doors.

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[bluesneakers]

Respectfully, I've heard this mentioned several times. I don't understand this line of thinking. If I was alone and encountered someone dressed like this under these circumstances, it certainly wouldn't put me at ease no matter who they SAID they were or what their disguise implied. In no way would this allow them to get close to me. I would run BECAUSE they were dressed like this, as well as for many other reasons.


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What if he or she claimed to be LE and said there were reports of a shooting or bomb threat? Or something about going with him/her to be safe?

People get fooled all the time.

I try to put myself in her place and I would assume the person was LE, not someone dressing up and pretending. How often have you seen a police officer dressed like this vs how many times have you seen a fake officer dressed like this?

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Another eye picture...I've watched the surveillance video start to finish 1000's of times but tonight just noticed that at that last door where the killer is breaking the glass that there's one teensy frame where the camera catches her right eye and she's looking directly up at the camera. Disregard the eye color - I had to adjust the midtones due to lighting/shadows...but I in no way manipulated the eye shape, etc (or painted or sculpted or whatever)

Edited to add - this is at 2:04 in the MPD video.

Great Job again MrsPC!!! I wonder if you can tell us about the eye brow. Does the eyebrow appear to be "sculptured" as women often have their eyebrows done vs men who usually don't have their eyebrows done. They maybe we can narrow it down to whether or not perp is in fact a woman or man.

 

[cady]

Respectfully BBM, they were able to recover some deleted messages but that is why they got the 2 different SW to get all the data available from LinkedIn and ATT.

Also, the extraction request was for between March1 2016 and April 24, 2016 at least, for the ATT warrant. JMO only 7 weeks.

 

[Glammie]

What if he or she claimed to be LE and said there were reports of a shooting or bomb threat? Or something about going with him/her to be safe?

People get fooled all the time.

I try to put myself in her place and I would assume the person was LE, not someone dressing up and pretending. How often have you seen a police officer dressed like this vs how many times have you seen a fake officer dressed like this?

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I believe you are spot on. I think she was most likely initially compliant when she saw him until she got closer, realized something was not right and attempted to get away. He would have been close enough by that time, to subdue her.


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[BigCityAccountant]

So the silhouette is completely extracted from the video? Hope my question makes sense - as opposed to not being animated from scratch.....hope I'm still making sense

That's interesting.

Fantastic Batbrat! You are very talented!! Here is my question, does the perp have an injury to the LEFT foot or leg? It appears from your recreation there is more weight put on the right foot to compensate for pain in the left. I hope that makes sense.

 

[rsd1200]

Good eye. Yes, several people have mentioned they believe it's a helmet like that with a balaclava and a strap-on LED lamp. Various helmet types come in that style, including paintball tac helmets, which are pretty cheap on Amazon.

I won't argue the balaclava but, there are not any visible straps on the helmet for a strap on headlamp. I think it's either a helmet with a headlamp built-in or there's a slot on front to attach one, or, they've just physically attached one themselves.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Respectfully, I've heard this mentioned several times. I don't understand this line of thinking. If I was alone and encountered someone dressed like this under these circumstances, it certainly wouldn't put me at ease no matter who they SAID they were or what their disguise implied. In no way would this allow them to get close to me. I would run BECAUSE they were dressed like this, as well as for many other reasons.


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I guess everyone is different. If I walked into the church and saw doors opened and damage and a guy dressed like LE, I would begin to walk toward the person to find out what was going on. Although I would have to say if I didn't see a LE vehicle in the lot I would be suspicious, but none the less would be at ease knowing LE was there. I guess I'm too trusting and IIRC, BB said MB was too.

 

[Razz]

I'm shocked there are so many threads for this case? 25 is a LOT when so little is publicly known ‎
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‎I haven't been following this story so forgive me if I violate specific posting (sleuthing vs speculative) guidelines. Is it okay for me to speculate, that, in my opinion the father in law walks like ‎the man dressed in SWAT? That's a very distinct sort of swag. It sent a chill up my very privately owned spine.‎
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It's often said that if there's not an arrest in the 'First 48' the chances of not solving a murder increase exponentially. It seems to me rarely does an arrest come within 48 hours when there's not an eye witness or someone looking to cut a deal. I don't think enough time has transpired to say the police are out of leads, or that this case won't be solved.‎
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My speculative opinion only.‎

I think we'll find this to be like the Markel case. Nothing seemed to be happening over the 2 years since Markel ' s murder... but little did we know the police had painstakingly built the case piece by piece and then....an arrest!

I truly think the same thing is happening here.

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[rsd1200]

Respectfully, I've heard this mentioned several times. I don't understand this line of thinking. If I was alone and encountered someone dressed like this under these circumstances, it certainly wouldn't put me at ease no matter who they SAID they were or what their disguise implied. In no way would this allow them to get close to me. I would run BECAUSE they were dressed like this, as well as for many other reasons.


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If a LE walked into the church, dressed like this, as I was setting up at 4:ish a.m. in the morning, my first thought, would be that I had set off some sort of silent alarm and they'd come to investigate. My second thought would be, oh $%^#, and that thought would be too late, and I'd probably be dead. Edit: Either way I'd not be "at ease" though.

 

[Montjoy]

‎I haven't been following this story so forgive me if I violate specific posting (sleuthing vs speculative) guidelines. Is it okay for me to speculate, that, in my opinion the father in law walks like ‎the man dressed in SWAT? That's a very distinct sort of swag. It sent a chill up my very privately owned spine.‎‎

The police have confirmed that he was out of town, so pointing out similarities seems like nothing other than a cruel attempt to implicate someone who is innocent as a suspect.

 

[Paige SC]

I think we'll find this to be like the Markel case. Nothing seemed to be happening over the 2 years since Markel ' s murder... but little did we know the police had painstakingly built the case piece by piece and then....an arrest!

I truly think the same thing is happening here.

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I imagine the ending will be similar to the DM case as well (re: POI, etc.)

 

[Doghairrules]

Each frame from that sequence of the video is overlaid with a layer, on the layer I trace the outline of the subject, locate areas where there is little or no padding, etc. Within a 50-frame sequence, I use those data points to get an average size of that body part. It looks a little like this as I work on it:

Then each frame is reassembled in the same order.

You are brilliant!!!


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[Seriously?]

I agree and have posted this theory probably three times already. It makes the most sense of what we know.

I agree with a minor deviation. I think the attack took place as she was trying to open the door - back turned to the killer. I'm not so convinced of the outside theory, because I believe the killer wanted Ms. Bevers cornered - no escape and unable to break free and run across that field.

 

[Paige SC]

The police have confirmed that he was out of town, so pointing out similarities seems like nothing other than a cruel attempt to implicate someone who is innocent as a suspect.

Did not know that, as I said I haven't been following the case. Can you tell me who dropped a shirt off at the dry cleaners and on what day?

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I'm comfortable saying it was a head injury, without being specific as to what caused it. Sure, it's possible she died of a massive heart attack after being attacked. Not likely, though. Police were sure enough to swear these facts as they understood them before a judge.

Respectfully BBM~~At that point in time in the investigation. Investigations are complex, things change as new information is obtained. For instance, LE was comfortable stating they believed it to be a man~~they backtracked and added it could be a woman. At the time of the SW, they could have really believed the head injury was the COD, but now believe it is something else.

 

[arkansasmimi]

I kept wondering how people are seeing a "heavy" person in the surveillance footage, and thought maybe it was a combination between top-down camera angle and the bulky gear. Here's what happens when a camera is at a top-down angle:

I created a brief animation using my "body scan" technique. I removed pockets, belts, shoes, padding, fabric, and helmet from the subject, limiting the amount stripped from each layer to the general body frame. Wherever an area of clothing folded against or confined an area of the body, that was the size I determined the body part to be and kept it consistent frame to frame. Using a technique similar to facial reconstruction (but subtractive instead of additive), I used key frames to eliminate the costume. I did not add or subtract any weight. Only the obvious bulk from clothing was subtracted. This is what I ended up with. I thought you guys might find it interesting:

Absolutely amazing!! This is why I think the Crime Scene Reconstruction is going to make a big difference. And why the change in height variance . Thanks again for your hard work and contributions!!

 

[rsd1200]

Respectfully BBM, we do not know how she died, as in her COD or MOD from the Medical Examiner. This was stated in a Probable Cause Affidavit,
from Ford F150 SW, Affidavit, Warrant SIGNED AT 625 pm April 18 and SW Execution same date. It was FILED and made Public April 21, at 8: a.m. Autopsy was not completed until Tuesday Morning April 19th. MPD from start until now have stated they will not speak about her injuries or cause of death. JMHO they assumed this at the time of the SW affidavit due to appearance of injuries, not known fact.

Missy Bevers’ autopsy was completed by the Dallas County Medical Examiner's Office Tuesday morning. Midlothian police said they are not ready to make that report public. http://www.fox4news.com/news/126278594-story

* April 18, at 6:25 p.m. they were also calling the Suspect a he.

On 04/18/2016 at approximately 0500 hours, Midlothian Police Officers responded to an unresponsive person at Creekside Church, 5401 E US Hwy 287, Midlothian, Ellis County, Texas. Officers arrived on scene and found a white female, identified as Terri Bevers, date of birth 8/09/1970, deceased from a head wound. Officers on scene viewed the surveillance video and observed a male subject in a police jacket and a helmet walking through the building carrying tools and was shown to be burglarizing this location. It is believed this unknown male used an unknown instrument to cause the death of Terri Bevers at this location. http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/He...-Seized-Search-Warrant-376599651.html#warrant

I know I've said this before, but I keep coming back to the ATF dogs. Those are dogs specifically trained to scent for ATF specific things. Quote "... and they are getting help from both the Texas Rangers and the ATF, who brought dogs to the church Wednesday to sniff for gun-powder and other explosive residue." They don't just bring ATF dogs into every murder scene do they? I found that odd.

 

[Spartygirl]

I find this curious. SP is there 1st, MB is there 2nd and Camper 1 (C1) is there 3rd. MB never leaves and C1 presumably never leaves (waits in car for friends to go in, finds body and calls 911?) Someone from the scene called MT (BB bio mom) and it is rumored that someone called BB before LE to notify of MB "accident". I need to establish a verified timeline VS the unknowns bc IMO something is just off, I'm not sure what piece it is. Ok, we haven't heard any interviews or statements from any CG campers there that morning, haven't heard the 911 call and IIRC LE never stated the camera picked up C1 entering lot at 4:35. :thinking: :thinking:

IMO

YES!!!! This is what has been bothering me all this time also. I know LE/media have not really addressed this publicly, but this just keeps popping up in my thoughts!!!
I must admit, I change my mind frequently about who Swatperp could be and what the motive is but I always seem to come back to this. JMO

 

[Razz]

I agree with a minor deviation. I think the attack took place as she was trying to open the door - back turned to the killer. I'm not so convinced of the outside theory, because I believe the killer wanted Ms. Bevers cornered - no escape and unable to break free and run across that field.

Yes. As she was unlocking (from the inside) the vestibule door to her truck. I think the 3 of us are essentially on the same page re this, anyway.

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