TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #26

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  • #601
just talking to the wind here...but IMO, I still feel that MB's murder is related to her Austin Total Transformation trip and I believe CT was on the "target interest" list for good reason.

AT has been a trainer for quite some time & in looking at all his Instagram/Facebook/Twitter photos, etc he has trained lots of attractive women. But, he has always worked locally and close to home.

When he transitioned from IChooseFit to Camp Gladiator his lifestyle changed. Here's a link about his transition:

http://www.ichoosefit.org/feb-22nd-ichoosefit/

AT has 3 different FB accounts and one is his "Beastmode Garage" account where he posted about the fitness sessions he held in his own garage (in addition to bootcamps elsewhere.) And on 4/8/16 he posted on that account that he was having to work earlier days & later nights and didn't have enough time any more for his Jiu Jitsu or garage workouts.

And we know that MB was his mentor or was training him for Camp Gladiator. (at least I think that's correct.) :)

I'm not sure how far in advance the Austin Total Transformation trip was planned, but we know that MB and AT were there. So, AT had to travel away from home for this.

And *bam* - after AT returns home from Austin & is holding his first Monday morning Camp Gladiator camp - MB is murdered.

The timing of it just really stands out to me.

I think the motive for MB murder was extreme jealousy with the perception that AT was being pulled away from CT and his home by MB.

JMHO

I mentioned once (and this is probably skirting the boundary lines, but it's just my opinion) that I pulled up the pictures from that Austin event and in one photo in particular, I said, "A married woman probably shouldn't be posed that way to a married man. I know it's a physical fitness field, but that's bad judgment in my mind. I said "If my wife was postured that way to another guy, we would have a talk." Responses were on both sides. Some said, "Yeah, my spouse ain't doing that without a word from me," and the other half said, "That's just the business. They're flexing because that's how they motivate others."
 
  • #602
Very useful post thanks Moonchild!

I took a screenshot of the perp in the Youtube video who reminds me of the MB killer. The outfit - so similar just different colour.

Strange timeline we have here:

April 7 - 50 guns stolen from Arlington store.
April 15 - Local deputy arrested for illegal firearm sales.
April 18 - MB is murdered.
About a week after MB's murder - 2nd deputy arrested for illegal firearm sales.
ATF involved in the MB murder investigation but she was killed with a hammer.
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Is this why Arlington police joined the LE force for MB? Does anyone have a link regarding Arlington PD joining in the search?
 
  • #603
I have laid out proof on previous threads that MB & AT were in an intimate relationship.


Please would you do us a little recap?
 
  • #604
Do you think that the person(s) could have been hired?

Yes, I do.
Hiring a hitman adds another layer of "distancing" (& there can be many other reasons but "distancing" is one element I will focus in on).

"Distancing" by hiring a hitman is used to make it more difficult to solve the crime by LE; it ensures the emotional scars of the face of death of the victim is not permanently frozen in the orchestrator's mind which may happen if the orchestrator did the murder themselves; it ensures some level of competency & calmness normally not seen in a law-abiding citizen as hitman usually have some level of criminal/violent experience;

So yes, I personally think this murder was done by a hitman. SWATperp has a criminal history likely outside of the USA, imho. He may not be here legally but may have been here for years. Not his first rodeo. Nope.

There's many reasons the orchestrator feels it's important to "distance" himself & hiring a hitman is one of them. Moo
 
  • #605
Yes, I do.
Hiring a hitman adds another layer of "distancing" (& there can be many other reasons but "distancing" is one element I will focus in on).

"Distancing" by hiring a hitman is used to make it more difficult to solve the crime by LE; it ensures the emotional scars of the face of death of the victim is not permanently frozen in the orchestrator's mind which may happen if the orchestrator did the murder themselves; it ensures some level of competency & calmness normally not seen in a law-abiding citizen as hitman usually have some level of criminal/violent experience;

So yes, I personally think this murder was done by a hitman. SWATperp has a criminal history likely outside of the USA, imho. He may not be here legally but may have been here for years. Not his first rodeo. Nope.

There's many reasons the orchestrator feels it's important to "distance" himself & hiring a hitman is one of them. Moo
100% agree with you!
 
  • #606
Is this why Arlington police joined the LE force for MB? Does anyone have a link regarding Arlington PD joining in the search?

It was reported earlier on that Arlington Police were assisting with the organizational aspect of the investigation - in organizing tips, because they had previous experience with this with a high profile case - the Amber Hagerman abduction/murder.
 
  • #607
Just so I'm clear, the "black F150" in the Arlington gun robbery doesn't belong to anyone we know, right? Thinking out loud. I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

IMO
 
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This could go OT. BUT IF the murder is in response to someone moving in on someone else's wife/husband/family.
1. Is that, or could that be in anyway a mitigating factor in the penalty phase?
2. Would you feel less angry/vengeful about it?

Last week, they showed a case where a dad attacked a guy in a courtroom, because the guy had brutally killed his daughter. And was almost taunting him. And I sat there and thought, "You know, I probably wouldn't do that but I sure would feel like it. And don't really blame the guy for doing it. Little different outcome of course in this case. But are the real-life factors in anyway a factor (legally and personally)?
 
  • #610
Is there a photo shown somewhere, of the sticker that is on that car? (If so, I didn't come across that. Could you please point out, where I can look at it, at.) Thank you.
 
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Please would you do us a little recap?

I'm on an island in Canada on a fishing trip so my notes are not available but I'll give it a try. SW's said evidence of Bevers money problems or evidence of an "affair" was on MB"s phone in contact with AT & CT phones. I doubt MB was talking to AT & or CT about the money problems, an affair BB was having or an affair she was having with someone else. Therefore it was about an affair she was having with AT or CT. I'm betting on AT.
 
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I mentioned once (and this is probably skirting the boundary lines, but it's just my opinion) that I pulled up the pictures from that Austin event and in one photo in particular, I said, "A married woman probably shouldn't be posed that way to a married man. I know it's a physical fitness field, but that's bad judgment in my mind. I said "If my wife was postured that way to another guy, we would have a talk." Responses were on both sides. Some said, "Yeah, my spouse ain't doing that without a word from me," and the other half said, "That's just the business. They're flexing because that's how they motivate others."

Hey WannaB (or anyone)......would u plz describe this photo? I've been trying to keep up but missed any discussion of it. Thanks!
 
  • #615
Is there a photo shown somewhere, of the sticker that is on that car? (If so, I didn't come across that. Could you please point out, where I can look at it, at.) Thank you.
Not a good picture. The enhanced picture of the car bumper showed an outline. There was also discussion on the thread about a possible ding/dent on the bumper looking like a decal. Sorry can't be more help. The car pictures are on here and in the MPD news conference. Maybe it's still on the MPD website.
 
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I have laid out proof on previous threads that MB & AT were in an intimate relationship.

I'm on an island in Canada on a fishing trip so my notes are not available but I'll give it a try. SW's said evidence of Bevers money problems or evidence of an "affair" was on MB"s phone in contact with AT & CT phones. I doubt MB was talking to AT & or CT about the money problems, an affair BB was having or an affair she was having with someone else. Therefore it was about an affair she was having with AT or CT. I'm betting on AT.

Sounds like a theory but not proof of a intimate relationship to me.
 
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Ok so someone posted recently that in one of the pressers, LE said something to the effect that the murderer attempted to clean up the crime scene.

So I'm sure that my version of cleaning up & LE's version of cleaning up are two different things. I feel LE's version is more like the murderer tried to dispose of evidence.

So if a gun was used, would the murderer finding & taking the bullet(s) or bullet casings count as cleaning up? Would the murderer try to sop up blood on the ground so as not to leave boot prints? Was something found in the trash can that assisted in the murder (noooo Honey, no -- don't say it.....but Honey must) like **Saran Wrap*** (dang! Honey said it)!

LE saying that the murderer attempted to clean up the crime scene is very odd & telling, imho.

RIP MB.
 
  • #620
Sounds like a theory but not proof of a intimate relationship to me.

I thought SW included people who most recently were in contact with MB and possibly BB by association with regards to affairs and money but also recent contacts meaning calls/texts/emails/facebook/linked in messages etc.
 
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