TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #28

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  • #221
What are the alibis? That's been my question from the start. I have seen absolutely no mention of anything regarding the nature of RB's alibi. I am aware that they have given alibis to LE, but we don't have any details, correct? We don't actually know that RB's alibi is that he was out-of-town, correct?

No, not correct.
 
  • #222
Could the item carried by swatperp be the broken door handle or at least part of it?

Also, the official height of 5'2" - 5'7" makes no sense to me. I'm having a hard time seeing a 5'7" perp much less a 5'2" one.
 
  • #223
I've been attentive looking at bumpers while driving around town (I'm local). Came across my first oval bumper sticker below the license plate in Red Oak. It was for a local radio station. Unfortunately the car was not an Altima. Very very few stickers below the license plate.
 
  • #224
I've been attentive looking at bumpers while driving around town (I'm local). Came across my first oval bumper sticker below the license plate in Red Oak. It was for a local radio station. Unfortunately the car was not an Altima. Very very few stickers below the license plate.

Surely the driver of the car - if they're trying to hide something and not just innocent and oblivious - would have taken the sticker off by now.
 
  • #225
To be fair -- or the mom. It is pro-rated.

Actually there is a formula by which child support is calculated, and the Texas Family Code gives guidelines on child support.
 
  • #226
Important Correction Notification:

I have used this image and in doing so I erroneously credited rodee34 for the mitigation of the SS. That is not correct. NIN is the one who manipulated the image to this state. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused.

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http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=96330&stc=1

Image credit belongs to NIN and to NIN only! Thanks!

It remains my opinion that this is a mechanical part. It is not a cardboard box. It is not a tripod. It is not a multi-task tool. It is a machine part to a car or to a particular machinery such as a tractor. At this time, I don't have time to research the exact item but when I do (and that may be on tomorrow) it will be posted and you can decide for yourself if it matches.

Thanks! You guys are certainly doing a marrrrvelous job! :websleuther:

JMHO, that portion of the video was already zoomed in, so that may be one reason it is harder for everyone to see what it is, it is already distorted in the grainy video.
 
  • #227
Could the item carried by swatperp be the broken door handle or at least part of it?

Also, the official height of 5'2" - 5'7" makes no sense to me. I'm having a hard time seeing a 5'7" perp much less a 5'2" one.

IMO - until "we" have an exact measurement of the interior doors, we are sort of guessing. Batbrat has posted several amazing photos that show (IMO) that SP is approx 73" give or take. I'm not say LE is lying to us, more like giving SP a sense of relief. JMO.

Does anyone here attend that church? If so, could you get an interior door measurement?
 
  • #228
TOTALLY agree!

God help anyone that steps out of a silver Nissan Altima and has "that" walk!"

Surely the driver of the car - if they're trying to hide something and not just innocent and oblivious - would have taken the sticker off by now.
 
  • #229
If one believes in Occam's Razor, this is what happened.

IMHO

This is my top theory also. Someone either involved or trying to help BB. I hope BB is not involved.
 
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Whew! Got caught up tonight in record-breaking time...LOL That must mean...No News, which means, No Arrest. RIP Missy!

A few thoughts. I was painting my shed yesterday and my hand/arm became tired~~and as I was thinking about this case this morning~~ a thought had occurred to me. What IF, the perp was all tired out from breaking into the 1st door, they just didn't have it in them to lift that hammer and swing...could that be why perp was swinging the hammer like a girl. Of course, it still could be a female~~but with BatBrats animation, I'm thinking male now.

Oh~~thanks again for the animation BatBrat! Of course, I had to brag to the hubby about BatBrat's work and all the amazing work the sleuthers here do!!! (I think he was even impressed BatBrat!!!!)

Last thought~~I forgot my coffee this am and stopped in the Oasis this morning along the highway to pick one up. I happen to notice a few truck drivers walking in~~and wouldn't you know it~~one of them had that gait! Well, I'm a long long ways from Texas~~but the thought is this~~could the perp be someone that regularly drives a truck for a living? I have heard other people mention that all that bumping up and down the highway tends to cause back problems. I have read in these threads, other sleuthers that have SO's that drive trucks for a living, so I'm wonder if they could chime in as well.

Just some food for thought.

Could be right the perp was worn out. On the other hand, the weird duck walk and the way he/ she moves, I get a distinct "dork" impression. Weird. And re: the object in the left hand, my DH says he thinks it looks like some sort of container holding something, because there are few tools that are white. Idk, jmo.
 
  • #232
Since I have asked about MSM or LE links to information about RB's alibi a few times and have gotten no replies, is it safe to assume that we don't have any details about the nature of his alibi?

Respectfully, this is the lates from MPD (to my knowledge)
Again, we are Thankful for Galadriel awesome transcription:

From the May 20 2016 Press Conf http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eline-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12581000#post12581000

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Several family members seem to also be at the center of the public's focus.I just want to be clear that the Bevers family, including Mr. Bevers and his father, have been cooperative, forthcoming, and provided detailed alibis that have all been corroborated through independent sources. Until Missy's killer is caught, I willstop short of saying that any person is absolutely excluded, but to be clear, none of Missy's family are at the focus of this investigation
 
  • #233
I'd love to know what the LE and FBI's profile is on the suspect. Until we know more details I feel I'll go mad.
Inhope for an arrest soon and justice for Missy.
 
  • #234
This is my top theory also. Someone either involved or trying to help BB. I hope BB is not involved.

It makes the most sense, based on what we've been told so far.
I don't believe BB is involved, and I'm not just saying that because of WS rules.
I think it was done for him, but not at his request and not with his knowledge.
But I think he knows who did it, and that's why he's said he'd forgive if they'd come forward. I would say that to a <modsnip>, I probably wouldn't offer forgiveness for a stranger or even acquaintance, it doesn't seem relevant in the context he was speaking. It seemed a very directed message at someone he knew personally.
 
  • #235
We've missed you.

Respectfully, this is the lates from MPD (to my knowledge)
Again, we are Thankful for Galadriel awesome transcription:

From the May 20 2016 Press Conf http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...eline-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=12581000#post12581000

Snip

Several family members seem to also be at the center of the public's focus.I just want to be clear that the Bevers family, including Mr. Bevers and his father, have been cooperative, forthcoming, and provided detailed alibis that have all been corroborated through independent sources. Until Missy's killer is caught, I willstop short of saying that any person is absolutely excluded, but to be clear, none of Missy's family are at the focus of this investigation
 
  • #236
Agreed. I am hopeful and definitely leaning toward "confident" that LE has a pretty good grasp on the situation. This particular crime has really captivated me for so many reasons. But specifically how we can have actual video evidence of the murderer and yet so many of us can't agree on what we're seeing.

BBM

Perhaps that was part of the 'game'..?

-Nin
 
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This is for Batbrat. I spend a lot of time catching up so I'm not sure if this has been asked.

I'm intrigued with your animations and wonder if it is possible to manipulate the 'perp' and have them walk towards us instead of away from us. With or without hair is fine.

Im just very curious if this is possible. I don't have anyone in particular in mind, and no, I'm not looking at RB. I have short POI list that changes quite often. I'm not the Agatha Christie that I thought I was. TIA
 
  • #239
I have a question. I read this little snippet and would like opinions if it was possible. I haven't really kept up with the exact camera placements and what each could capture:

"Surveillance video recorded inside the church shows a person, dressed in black gear with police markings, using a tool to pry open doors to enter the building shortly before Bevers entered."

Knowing the cameras placements, do you think it would be possible that the perp was seen trying to break in? IIRC LE said perp was in building for a while before being caught on video. I just wonder if it's possible he was seen before entering, or maybe the reporter has it wrong. tia

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Po...idlothian-Murder-Investigation-376269831.html

Oh, also from same report is this:

Johnson said a vehicle can be seen on the video may belong to the killer, but there's not enough information to give the public.
"There’s one surveillance camera where you can see the car in the far corner of the frame, parked in the distance. You can't make out a plate, and we're not even comfortable releasing anything about a possible make or model,” Johnson said.
 
  • #240
Actually there is a formula by which child support is calculated, and the Texas Family Code gives guidelines on child support.

Yes, and depending on different factors, a court can order child support that is higher or lower than the guidelines. Of course, the parties can always agree to a different amount if the case is not contentious. IMHO, nothing I've seen so far suggests to me that their divorce, if one occurred, would be especially contentious.
 
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