TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

[JnRyan]

Maybe SP was told not to make it look like a "hit" because that would point to BB because of their past history and because they always look at the husband first. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to when they could have killed her in the parking lot. If perp. got into car no doubt Missy's blood was left somewhere unless they completely stripped off which I think is unlikely because they would have wanted to get out of there. This person IMHO staged the murder to look as if a psycho did it!!

I said in beginning if I was going to do it, I would not use a hammer. I'd use a .22 revolver. No shell casings left behind. First 2 shots .22 short hollowpoints. Then the 3rd and possibly 4th, .22 long rifle hollowpoints. A .22 in a closed building that is fairly well isolated, before 0500 on a rainy morning isn't likely to be heard. Even someone in the parking lot would likely have their windows rolled up, radio on, heater/defroster on, engine running and wouldn't notice or discern a single .22 LR shot. So why a hammer or whatever it was they used? It was personal? (That would seem to make hit less likely.) That takes a bold, confident person to plan a murder then do it up close and personal.

Your theory that it was staged may be why a gun wasn't used, but the instrument that the killer was carrying.

 

[CHUCKJ]

Speaking of planning in advance, who would have access to the video recordings of the CCTV? A church member? An employee of the company servicing the system? They would know the outside the cameras were not working. They would not have to do a recon or watch the church because they could watch the video of previous days on playback and see when Missy arrived and where. If so, they would not want to erase the video on the day of the murder because then that would draw attention to them.

The downside to this theory is that they would know the blindspots where they could wait, so why wonder around aimlessy? A ruse because if they stayed to the blindspots it would be too obvious that the killer had inside knowledge of the system? They did manage to kill Missy out of view of a camera, though, if what LE tells us is true.

As a side note in a different direction - was the killer's walk around the building and opening different rooms prior to the murder a quick check to find the video recording equipment? That they apparently seem to chose rooms at random, could these be rooms the killer didn't look in on a previous recon of the building?

I would venture a guess, that whoever the suspect is, they did not have prior knoledge of church. If they had access to video, they would have also been someone who had access to the entire church, therefore they would know what was in every room, and there would be no reason to look in all those doors.

 

[neesaki]

Some things in this murder mystery don't jive. Police not releasing any info (whether new or old: I.e. Height descrepancies, release of 2 minutes, vs. 30 of video, lack of cause of death, other than "puncture wounds", no details of alibis given, etc. on and on with no real clues.....

Many of us have been on this quest for days, weeks, months. We keep getting knocked down with our questions. At the same time, no real answers. Seems like a veil of disguise is covering up information that should have been forthcoming. So sad for Missy and her children. I think everyone on this blog is trying to help, not undermine the B-clan. However, someone has some "splainin'" to do.

I've been thinking similar thoughts, and questioned the possible orbit LEangle. I wonder if it was something like that, how Missy would have gotten knowledge of something illegal going on. Or something illegal NOT involving LE.

 

[ilovematt]

Yes, I might just bc most people would assume as you do, that a cop would refrain from wearing anything cop related. However, if they wore a fake costume it would make you assume it was bought aftermarket bc any real LE would have access to legit LE garb. The whole "no cop would be so dumb" angle immediately make SP a fake cop in the minds of most. IMO.

 

[ilovematt]

IMO the church CCTV is really antiquated, unlike SWFA. My educated guess is that the video is saved for a 10 day period on an onsite server then auto deletes and allows for the next 10 days to record. If I'm correct, nobody sees the video or even looks at footage without some catalyst requiring them to look back.

 

[x_files]

I've been thinking similar thoughts, and questioned the possible orbit LEangle. I wonder if it was something like that, how Missy would have gotten knowledge of something illegal going on. Or something illegal NOT involving LE.

Or a dirty cop does dirty deeds as a side gig. Hit for hire?
I thought the outfit would be way too weird to be real.
Does anyone else seen the gait of local LE or any other members of the Bevers clan? Older or younger brother? Uncle? Sister?

 

[JnRyan]

I would venture a guess, that whoever the suspect is, they did not have prior knoledge of church. If they had access to video, they would have also been someone who had access to the entire church, therefore they would know what was in every room, and there would be no reason to look in all those doors.

If it was an employee of the company that installed the equipment, they may not necessarily have access to the church but rather they probably had to schedule maintenance visits. That is, they didn't have a key and may not even have a key to where ever the video recording equipment was if it was locked up. IOW, they needed a church employee or volunteer to let them in. They might not know what was in the other rooms since they had no reason to go to those rooms. What looks like an aimless trip around the church could be a ruse to disguise the fact they had inside knowledge. Or just nervous energy while anticipating the planned murder.

Which leads me to questions about CCTV equipment that I don't have the answer to. Can you download video recordings onto a device such as a flash drive and take it offsite to view at another time? Can video recordings be transmitted electronically (via WiFi or internet cable) to an offsite location and stored there as a backup? (In which case, an employee of the CCTV company may not even have to go to the church.) In any event, if I was would want to know about the CCTV equipment and when it was last serviced.

All of this is just rambling brainstorming on my part. But LE at least looked at the possibilities.

 

[Ayashley]

It seems as though there must have been another person involved as drop off, keep watch, look out, communicate when MB arrived, and get away. I think this is the reason for the relaxed nature of SP. If s/he were alone, I'd think SP would be fixated on looking out door or window. Came in with the get up on and left with it on. Communicated via walkie talkie or something like that...prob had microphone and ear piece inside the face and head cover.�� To keep the deadly secret as secure as possible...would mean as few peeps involved. Then again, a hit guy can be hired from an anonymous person I suspect ( haven't hired one lately) and maybe hit team is 2 - which would then scream to me a B. Anyone know why senior B went to CA?"All JMO of couse.

ps...I'll look at the LI profile. I have one of the top paid accts for biz and actually teach LI to college students and adult ed so very familiar. Can't see private messages of course but like FB there are alot of things you can figure out that most peeps don't know by poking around.

pss. Anyone know where or who posted the photo of the M FF dept lined up outside - think it was a photo from a local/town magazine or newsletter - bur someone on WS posted it on one of these threads and drew bright red circles around certain ��������☹️. Can't find. Just curious.

Lately?!?! I'd hope that you meant NEVER?!?


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[CHUCKJ]

I've been thinking similar thoughts, and questioned the possible orbit LEangle. I wonder if it was something like that, how Missy would have gotten knowledge of something illegal going on. Or something illegal NOT involving LE.

Regarding ardenmost's comment. The first appearance of the suspect on video was 3:50. At 4:16,or 18. dont recall, MB enters the building and continues towards where LE suspects the killer was located. Thats only 26, or 28 min. Much of the time inbetween, the killer was in rooms with no camera (confirmed) or areas with no camer, or camera did not pick up. I don't think LE has 30min of video showing suspect. They did say, there was other video of suspect walkind down the hall. They did say, neither MB or suspect was seen on camera, after MB dissapears from view. Why do so many believe they have more video, than they do? As for height, it was released, 5.2" to 5.7". This is the estimate they came up with when doing the reconstruction. I think, it is probably afair accessment. Cause of death may being witheld because of specifics, but they did referance in SW that suspect died from puncture woulds consistant with tools the suspect was carrying. It could also be that they dont want some details to be publicized because of her children, but most likley, it is that simple, and the cause of death, is related to the blows from hammer, or other that the suspect was seen on video with. The alabi, per LE were confirmed. It is not their job to detail out how they confirmed to the public, and is not customary for LE to do so in any case. It adds nothing to the case to release every detail to the public about what reciepts, flight arrangments, car rental, SM post, whitness interviews, or otherwise they used to confirm. As for old information, it's all out there, and posted on LE FB page. As for new information, they apparently do not have any, and as good as said they were following up on the last lead (the car) in the last press conference. LE is doing their job. That does not include satisfying our curiosity. IMO, I don't believe we can stretch that into a conspiracy of any sort.

 

[Ayashley]

Also quick question , does anyone know what kind of cameras they had at the church? The kind that's in those bubble things? Or just the plain cameras? And is it normal for those cameras to not record sound??

ETA: how easy is it to hack/access cameras inside of a building??

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[curiousjo]

At one point- I recall a posting about someone wondering why MB had a FB friend who was a "powerful" female Austin Attorney. Had MB hired an attorney? Did she meet with an Attorney that weekend or before?

 

[x_files]

At one point- I recall a posting about someone wondering why MB had a FB friend who was a "powerful" female Austin Attorney. Had MB hired an attorney? Did she meet with an Attorney that weekend or before?

If you have the name we could sleuth what she specializes in if that's within TOS.

 

[CHUCKJ]

Also quick question , does anyone know what kind of cameras they had at the church? The kind that's in those bubble things? Or just the plain cameras? And is it normal for those cameras to not record sound??

ETA: how easy is it to hack/access cameras inside of a building??

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Not sure but from the quality of the video, and LE's statement that they had not alarm, I would say probably not the most high tech, or even the latest equipment.

 

[GA_Peach]

Maybe SP was told not to make it look like a "hit" because that would point to BB because of their past history and because they always look at the husband first. Seems like a lot of trouble to go to when they could have killed her in the parking lot. If perp. got into car no doubt Missy's blood was left somewhere unless they completely stripped off which I think is unlikely because they would have wanted to get out of there. This person IMHO staged the murder to look as if a psycho did it!!

RBBM

I actually think that the perpetrator of this crime is anything but psycho. The devil is in the details, and SP's focus on the minutiae and his level of planning make him cold and calculating, not psycho. MOO

 

[knowthings]

Does anyone know how often the fire department inspects the church?

 

[dizzychick]

it makes sense now that I think about it, all the speculation that there were 2 killers involved in this crime. One may have dropped off the swatperp while the other acted as ' look out". That way when Missy pulled into the church there was no car there to cause alarm or concren. maybe there is something to that car in the gun store parking lot afterall.

 

[CHUCKJ]

Couple of thoughts.

To whoever refereranced the creepy message, and possible stalker a few pages back. Props! I won't go back and look who it was, as my eyes are crossed from reading all morning. It brings up somthing I have often come back to in this case.

I think a much overlooked piece of the of the puzzle, is a combination of verafiable information that we have had from early on.
1. LE verified the fact that MB was having at least an innapropriate, ongoing relationship outside of her marriage. (flirtatious, intimate) even if it was only words. with a married man.
2. LE verified that a close friend brought to their attention a CREEPY message recieved by MB on LinkedIn, the same place where the innapropriate behavior was taking place. Im not attaching the other party in the back and forth messages to the creepy msg, just that it is known that MB was using LinkedIn to do somthing on the down low.
3. LE verified a comment from a friend at the gym, that MB was acting different in the weeks leading up to the event, and also quit attending the gym where she had been going for 3 years.

I think if you look at these things togeather, they confirm one another, and are too coincidental to be ignored.
knowing that LI was used for innapropriate behavior and that the messages were deleted after they were sent, easily opens the door to the possibility that the one guy we know about may not have been the only one. There could have been other flirtations, or even just converstaions that were completly innocent or not. Maybe for the purpose of promoting CG. The gym would be the place and clientel to do it.
Comments from a friend, sounds like something at the gym was out of sorts, maybe unwanted contact or discussion. The creepy message came after she stopped going to the gym, possibly because she had cut off contact with someone, or had let it be known that she was recieving unwanted attention, or that maybe an innocent communication from her was replied to with not so innocent intention. Then murder.

This is why I like to stick to good information verses blind possibilities. <modsnip>

 

[Jethro4WS]

Couple of thoughts.

To whoever refereranced the creepy message, and possible stalker a few pages back. Props! I won't go back and look who it was, as my eyes are crossed from reading all morning. It brings up somthing I have often come back to in this case.

I think a much overlooked piece of the of the puzzle, is a combination of verafiable information that we have had from early on.
1. LE verified the fact that MB was having at least an innapropriate, ongoing relationship outside of her marriage. (flirtatious, intimate) even if it was only words. with a married man.
2. LE verified that a close friend brought to their attention a CREEPY message recieved by MB on LinkedIn, the same place where the innapropriate behavior was taking place. Im not attaching the other party in the back and forth messages to the creepy msg, just that it is known that MB was using LinkedIn to do somthing on the down low.
3. LE verified a comment from a friend at the gym, that MB was acting different in the weeks leading up to the event, and also quit attending the gym where she had been going for 3 years.

I think if you look at these things togeather, they confirm one another, and are too coincidental to be ignored.
knowing that LI was used for innapropriate behavior and that the messages were deleted after they were sent, easily opens the door to the possibility that the one guy we know about may not have been the only one. There could have been other flirtations, or even just converstaions that were completly innocent or not. Maybe for the purpose of promoting CG. The gym would be the place and clientel to do it.
Comments from a friend, sounds like something at the gym was out of sorts, maybe unwanted contact or discussion. The creepy message came after she stopped going to the gym, possibly because she had cut off contact with someone, or had let it be known that she was recieving unwanted attention, or that maybe an innocent communication from her was replied to with not so innocent intention. Then murder.

This is why I like to stick to good information verses blind possibilities. <modsnip>

Could you point out where LE has actually stated they verified #3? I haven't seen that. Thanks.

 

[privateaye]

Would a cop dress in that gear to commit the crime, that would not be smart at all, unless they were actually a fireman.

Brilliant if a cop dressed I that. No one is suspecting a cop. Hide in plain sight. Not that that's my theory, but it is a possibility.

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[JnRyan]

Could you point out where LE has actually stated they verified #3? I haven't seen that. Thanks.

I don't remember if LE verified it, but the media mentioned it few times in the beginning.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-video-timeline-released-in-terri-bevers-death-at-texas-church/

And this transcript from Nancy Grace:

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1605/11/ng.01.html