TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016 #33

[YouWho]

IIRC BB also had posted that one of the kids had inadvertently posted using his phone, something possibly romantic not directed at MB. Am I remembering correctly? JMOO

He'd posted that he doesn't do emoticons, so if you (his FB audience) see one it was done by accident. IIRC.

 

[SteveS]

Some things in this murder mystery don't jive. Police not releasing any info (whether new or old: I.e. Height descrepancies, release of 2 minutes, vs. 30 of video, lack of cause of death, other than "puncture wounds", no details of alibis given, etc. on and on with no real clues.....

Many of us have been on this quest for days, weeks, months. We keep getting knocked down with our questions. At the same time, no real answers. Seems like a veil of disguise is covering up information that should have been forthcoming. So sad for Missy and her children. I think everyone on this blog is trying to help, not undermine the B-clan. However, someone has some "splainin'" to do.

No snark or disrespect intended in any of the following, just an honest answer to what you keep saying over and over, in the above and elsewhere.

Frankly, I disagree with your continuous LE bashing. You disparage their actions by terming it a "veil of disguise" and say they have explaining they owe us, but that's just clever spin to bash LE for doing what it is that a smart investigator does, which is to keep his cards close to his chest, don't trust outsiders, and keep digging. Frankly, they owe you (and us) nothing whatsoever - the public is not entitled to know what they know, see what they see, and look over their shoulder as they investigate. Yes we have been discussing this case for months, in our forum, but that makes us no more deserving of their case files and info than if we had spent no time whatsoever.

Furthermore, to the extent they tell info, they've gained nothing anyhow. Because people here just say, "Nah, don't believe it, they are probably lying or incompetent." So what would be the point if they told us more of what they have? It would be rejected anyhow. Much of what you complain about isn't a lack of info, but because LE has given you some, and you've discarded it and assumed them dishonest or stupid.

No snark or disrespect intended in any of the above, just an honest answer to what you keep saying over and over.

 

[YouWho]

It was probably MB's gun from her truck.

re: the possible gun in MB's truck

Which is why SP wore a bullet proof vest?

 

[ardenmost]

Frankly, I disagree with your continuous LE bashing. You disparage their actions by terming it a "veil of disguise" and say they have explaining they owe us, but that's just clever spin to bash LE for doing what it is that a smart investigator does, which is to keep his cards close to his chest, don't trust outsiders, and keep digging. Frankly, they owe you (and us) nothing whatsoever - the public is not entitled to know what they know, see what they see, and look over their shoulder as they investigate. Yes we have been discussing this case for months, in our forum, but that makes us no more deserving of their case files and info than if we had spent no time whatsoever.

Furthermore, to the extent they tell info, they've gained nothing anyhow. Because people here just say, "Nah, don't believe it, they are probably lying." So what would be the point if they told us more of what they have? It would be rejected anyhow. Much of what you complain about isn't a lack of info, but because LE has given you some, and you've discarded it and assumed them dishonest.

Whoaah! I beg to agree to disagree! There are two sides to every story! My main goal is to bring the ruthless killer/killers to justice. Sorry you are so upset over my intentions. Missy is dead. We need to keep that focus! Thanks for your consideration! Onward, upward!

 

[observation]

Much easier to scroll and roll! All of us want justice for MB- that is the goal of even logging on here at FB... Oh wait I mean WS.


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[SteveS]

Memories fading (or running together) on this one. Didn't the Mdln police actually physically go down to Biloxi?

Of course they did. These are pros, doing what a professional investigation team does. Yet some don't believe that they could have possibly known to ask the right questions, and be thorough enough, to figure out whether BB was truly in Biloxi as he claimed, and know how to properly check out an ailbi. I don't get it either.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Also in my digging today, I decided to look into the "divorce". In quotes because, it keeps being rumored about, but nobody seems to know for sure, etc. So how deep did BB and MB's marital struggles go? Did they go to the edge of divorce and then decided to step back? Or were no steps taken in the first place?

I found that information about civil actions (including divorce) in Ellis County can be searched online. It's public data, available at the link http://www.lgs-hosted.com/rmtelldck.html
The username and password are already filled in, so all you have to do is click Login. Then click Civil Case History to get to the Inquiry screen.

I used the search function to try to look up the last name "BEVERS" as the Plaintiff. I got two hits, but they weren't OUR Bevers, and they weren't divorce actions. I tried entering "BEVERS" as the Defendant, but got no hits. In the Cause of Action field I tried every divorce category, and then sorted the Plaintiff last name alphabetically. Nothing. I did not find anything on the Bevers.

So, it's looking like neither BB nor MB filed for divorce at any point. At least not in Ellis County, and haven't they lived in that county continuously for many years? Would they have to file for divorce in the county of residence, or could one of them have moved to a different county and immediately filed there?

Not saying that they never contemplated divorce, or one party never moved out temporarily or whatever. But as far as a court action to petition for divorce or even separation, I found nothing in Ellis County.

SteveS, you're a legal mind. Is there anything I'm not thinking of?

 

[ardenmost]

Much easier to scroll and roll! All of us want justice for MB- that is the goal of even logging on here at FB... Oh wait I mean WS.


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:loveyou:Thank you!!!!!

 

[YouWho]

Yes, I agree that his 2nd and later call to MB may have been an attempt to show that he was in Miss. at that time and could not have been in Midlothian at the time MB was murdered.

The problem I have with this portion of his statement is how he called MB the first time and she said goodnight. But in his own words (4/19 presser in front of his house), he says he called her again and "she was already 1/2 asleep." Word jumble doesn't make sense.

- - - - - - - - -
Reporter: Did you speak to your wife the night before?

BB: “Yes.”

Reporter: And what did you say to her?

BB: “Yes. Ah, every day for the last ah, every day for the last 10 months, she’s made it a point to text me at work that she loves me and have a good day honey. When I finally arrived in Biloxi, ah around 7:30, which was later than I was suppose to be there, you know, I spoke to her, and ah she said goodnight and it was still about 8:00, and I called her anyway probably around 9-9:30, to tell her I love her, and she was already ½ asleep and that was the last time I spoke to her.”

Reporter: And that was on the phone?

BB: “That was on the phone.”

 

[Cannonball3804]

Yes, I agree that his 2nd and later call to MB may have been an attempt to show that he was in Miss. at that time and could not have been in Midlothian at the time MB was murdered.

The problem I have with this portion of his statement is how he called MB the first time and she said goodnight. But in his own words (4/19 presser in front of his house), he says he called her again and "she was already 1/2 asleep." Word jumble doesn't make sense.

- - - - - - - - -
Reporter: Did you speak to your wife the night before?

BB: “Yes.”

Reporter: And what did you say to her?

BB: “Yes. Ah, every day for the last ah, every day for the last 10 months, she’s made it a point to text me at work that she loves me and have a good day honey. When I finally arrived in Biloxi, ah around 7:30, which was later than I was suppose to be there, you know, I spoke to her, and ah she said goodnight and it was still about 8:00, and I called her anyway probably around 9-9:30, to tell her I love her, and she was already ½ asleep and that was the last time I spoke to her.”

Reporter: And that was on the phone?

BB: “That was on the phone.”

We know that BB stated he was under the impression that while on the ship, he was going to be out of contact - an assumption that his cellphone wouldn't work. Since he would still be asleep when MB got up to go to her class, it seems reasonable to me that he might want to hear her voice one more time and say I love you again before being out of reach for a couple of days. Maybe 8 pm wasn't a good time, maybe she was in the middle of cooking or helping kids with homework, and so he called back later. Lots of good explanations.

 

[DrPam]

Hi privateye

Yes I am aware of this unreleased video as I have been following this case from the beginning.

Are you a local as well as DrPam? If not you can go back several threads and read where they posted word is B&E with a firearm involved possible LE IF I RECALL CORRECTLY

The information given, I would like to see a response to my postings, however not having much luck 

Thanks for replying

All are JMHO 

Which posting number and I'll look at it?

 

[SteveS]

Also in my digging today, I decided to look into the "divorce". In quotes because, it keeps being rumored about, but nobody seems to know for sure, etc. So how deep did BB and MB's marital struggles go? Did they go to the edge of divorce and then decided to step back? Or were no steps taken in the first place?

I found that information about civil actions (including divorce) in Ellis County can be searched online. It's public data, available at the link http://www.lgs-hosted.com/rmtelldck.html
The username and password are already filled in, so all you have to do is click Login. Then click Civil Case History to get to the Inquiry screen.

I used the search function to try to look up the last name "BEVERS" as the Plaintiff. I got two hits, but they weren't OUR Bevers, and they weren't divorce actions. I tried entering "BEVERS" as the Defendant, but got no hits. In the Cause of Action field I tried every divorce category, and then sorted the Plaintiff last name alphabetically. Nothing. I did not find anything on the Bevers.

So, it's looking like neither BB nor MB filed for divorce at any point. At least not in Ellis County, and haven't they lived in that county continuously for many years? Would they have to file for divorce in the county of residence, or could one of them have moved to a different county and immediately filed there?

Not saying that they never contemplated divorce, or one party never moved out temporarily or whatever. But as far as a court action to petition for divorce or even separation, I found nothing in Ellis County.

SteveS, you're a legal mind. Is there anything I'm not thinking of?

I suspect you may have accurate info. Kudos. It's possible that divorce was never actually discussed, or that it was discussed but never got as far as even a filing, and then things went the other direction instead and they worked to be together than apart. There wouldn't be documents for that avenue.

Re your further query, my experience has been that a legal online search in a county is just as susceptible to quirks and gaps and errors as any other place (the old GIGO reminder), and sometimes things might not be there that you'd expect to be, but they do exist and have somehow fallen through the cracks in one way or another. It's just me, but if it's important to me, I do my search in person at the courthouse. (I just spent most of a day this month going to a county courthouse to physically search those very sort of files.)

 

[YouWho]

We know that BB stated he was under the impression that while on the ship, he was going to be out of contact - an assumption that his cellphone wouldn't work. Since he would still be asleep when MB got up to go to her class, it seems reasonable to me that he might want to hear her voice one more time and say I love you again before being out of reach for a couple of days. Maybe 8 pm wasn't a good time, maybe she was in the middle of cooking or helping kids with homework, and so he called back later. Lots of good explanations.

Respectfully, that's not the case, as per his own words.

Tuesday, 4/19 presser in front of his house:
Reporter: Did you speak to your wife the night before?
BB: “Yes.”
Reporter: And what did you say to her?
BB: “Yes. Ah, every day for the last ah, every day for the last 10 months, she’s made it a point to text me at work that she loves me and have a good day honey. When I finally arrived in Biloxi, ah around 7:30, which was later than I was suppose to be there, you know, I spoke to her, and ah she said goodnight and it was still about 8:00, and I called her anyway probably around 9-9:30, to tell her I love her, and she was already ½ asleep and that was the last time I spoke to her.”
Reporter: And that was on the phone?
BB: “That was on the phone.”

 

[rodee34]

P.S. It makes more sence that the ATF, and FBI was brought in because of the police impersination. The state of the world today (terrorist). Not knowing initaly what this was, the way the perp was dressed, and where they were (a church), and not being able to identify all the things the suspect was carrying in the video. It is likley that they considered this may have been an atempt to bomp a church and thus brougt in drug sniffing dogs. Much less likley that they brout the dogs in because they thought a gun was used in the murder.

I would have thought that since the LE knew about the LE impersonation and unidentified objects very early on, they would have brought in dogs or robots on day one, if they suspected bombs. Hundreds of people traipsed all over the property before the dogs ever showed up. Even the crime scene tape covered a very limited area... I have a hard time with the bomb theory.

 

[Cannonball3804]

Respectfully, that's not the case, as per his own words.

Tuesday, 4/19 presser in front of his house:
Reporter: Did you speak to your wife the night before?
BB: “Yes.”
Reporter: And what did you say to her?
BB: “Yes. Ah, every day for the last ah, every day for the last 10 months, she’s made it a point to text me at work that she loves me and have a good day honey. When I finally arrived in Biloxi, ah around 7:30, which was later than I was suppose to be there, you know, I spoke to her, and ah she said goodnight and it was still about 8:00, and I called her anyway probably around 9-9:30, to tell her I love her, and she was already ½ asleep and that was the last time I spoke to her.”
Reporter: And that was on the phone?
BB: “That was on the phone.”

You'll have to point out where what I said conflicts with what you've bolded, because I'm missing it. The fact that she said goodnight to him at 8 doesn't mean that he was satisfied with the quality of the conversation. She may have been distracted in the earlier conversation. Or maybe he was. As I said, they weren't going to be able to talk to one another for 2 days. Wanting to talk to your wife one more time to say I love you should be a good thing.

I'm reminded of something MB said on her FB in the summer of 2014. She posted John Mayer's song "Say" and added this comment: "Say what you need to say to family and friends, because you never know..." Then at the end of August, she posts about one of BB's good friends who had just died of leukemia, and she says: "I want to leave this place someday knowing that I lived my life to the fullest, giving all myself to my family first and then others! I have a husband just like that!"

 

[Elle*Bee]

Love affairs sometimes are weird things. If someone felt ignored or neglected they may find solace in another's arms, nothing to do with looks. It crossed my mind as another possibility.

Thanks for this. I haven't looked closely at AT, but gorgeous people are cheated on, too.

 

[Jax49]

If you are replying to a post, please use the Reply With Quote option. Otherwise, I get so lost. Thanks!

 

[Elle*Bee]

We asked about this in an earlier thread and a gal whose husband was a police officer kindly answered for us that the gun serial number of a police officer simply investigating the scene would not be written up in the report (if that's what this is referencing). I can round up the quote if you need to see it, or for newbies if they weren't here for that post.

I cannot speak for Texas, but my hubby is ex LE (Virginia) and my friend is LE (Louisiana). Their experiences are what you quoted above. Merely unholstering and drawing a weapon need not be included in the report If it was not directed at another human, or in the presence of a human (suspect or witness), because drawing the weapon is considered standard operating procedure when entering an area in which there *may* be a threat.

If an officer draws his/her weapon in the presence of a civilian, then yes, a report would be filed.

 

[GeeEm]

Which posting number and I'll look at it?

Hi DrPam 🙂

This one

------Bringing up a theory I posted in regards to a firearm being used. However since a poster is aware of more knowledge, I would like to have my theories put to the test. I do believe IMHO, the SwatPerp tried or possibly succeeded in taking the bullet with them

*Was the B&E SwatPerp gear a mere disguise
*Did SwatPerp leave the same way they entered
*Has SwatPerp been identified as male vs female
*What was the purpose of the B&E in a church
*Is there a rogue cop involved
*Was the mere B&E a coincidence & Missy interrupted
*The vehicle or form of transportation identified
*Was SwatPerp aware of Missy's CG class
*A th*g off the street unknown to LE
*Has all the data been recovered from towers
*All names on SW verified

These are just a few questions, trying not to overwhelm 🤔

****Thank you so much for responding✍🏻

 

[DrPam]

(snipped for brevity) And not just see them but see them breaking that window on the door in such a way that the glass was ending up in the hall they were standing in. We saw them break a similar window on a door (to Room 4) in the main hall way and they didn't do anything but just smash it in.

I'm sure I missed it and if so, please forgive me, but why did SP pull an INSIDE room window in? At first I thought they were going to make it easier to exit quicker but that isn't supposedly how they went out. It doesn't make sense! Sorry if I missed this from a prior post!