TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 Apr 2016- # 7

[klmoon]

So I'm very naive but who knows how to do all this with the doors and tools?

 

[arkansasmimi]

Originally Posted by HEY YOU! View Post
-Looks like a white shirt peeking out from sleeve, collar and bottom of shirt.
-Also,in listening to the first full press conference it was noted that the perp came in through double metal doors with glass on top and that perp went out the way he came. Where is our map artist to show where that is?

BBM:

Could this be the double doors you mentioned? I can't tell if there are windows on top, but .....

No those doors are at the end of hallway on back of building. There is a set on each side of back of building. Unsure which set these are. I am going with the ones on the side that Kitchen door was busted on. Thats JMHO, because I cant see running to the back end OTHER side and busting those doors but jmho. The Metal Door that window was broken is this one

 

[Spellbound]

I have not seen this video before. It is an excellent aerial view of the church and pans down to Missy's truck under the awning. For sone reason it will not open on my iPad. I had to view it on the computer.

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/midlothian-church-raw_Dallas-Fort-Worth-376091081.html

A couple screen shots from here:

 

[BigCityAccountant]

No those doors are at the end of hallway on back of building. There is a set on each side of back of building. Unsure which set these are. I am going with the ones on the side that Kitchen door was busted on. Thats JMHO, because I cant see running to the back end OTHER side and busting those doors but jmho. The Metal Door that window was broken is this one

The real eerie part is you can see the security cameras in the last pic. The perp had to know they were not working. If they didn't know, did he/she not care, if they were?

 

[Marah]

I couldn't help but think if Missy while in my zumba class tonight. I love my teacher and to imagine walking in on her dead on the floor, would be heart breaking. I don't know if I could go back.

 

[Deleted member 718]

If you watch the video the door is already propped open before Missy arrived. Could that have been signaling that there already was a trainer there, like giving her the impression KL (the nominal 'owner' of CG Midlothian) or someone else from CG was already there where Missy would then go look for the other trainer?

I thought it was the inside door (of the double entry) that was propped open. The outside door is closed? tia

 

[Glammie]

So I'm very naive but who knows how to do all this with the doors and tools?

A man

 

[Bootsctr]

The real eerie part is you can see the security cameras in the last pic. The perp had to know they were not working. If they didn't know, did he/she not care, if they were?

H/she had to know the outside cameras were not working, I suppose. H/she entered where h/she knew cameras would not capture his entry on the inside. Figured he/she could disable them once inside. Maybe the SWAT gear was stored inside the kitchen? H/she changed once in the kitchen out of view of the indoor camera. And this would be the side he parked on also because it was out of Missy's sight.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

This is what I get from the 4/18/16 Press Conf I tried to get it exactly as was said, not claiming perfect. I encourage you to back and listen. to what is actually said and not said.

CHIEF CARL SMITH
approx 500 dispatched
When officers arrived "medics were attending an unresponsive female, Officers noted a lot of glass on floor as well as the female They started a search of the building, to make sure there were no other individuals in the facility , DURING THE SEARCH the officers found evidence force entry into the building indicating a possible burglary. The entire building was searched and no body was found. After that the victim was pronounced deceased by the Ellis County Justice of the Peace....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNLtwTK2hq8&feature=youtu.be

Do we know where the "force entry" that LE talks about is? Is it at a different entry point than the one Missy used to enter the building?

If it's the same point of entry wouldn't Missy have noticed the break in. JMO

 

[klmoon]

Do we know if there were any public events on at the church on Sunday 17th?

And has it been cleared up whether the external CCTV was temporarily disabled or whether it was just not working at that time. If it's the former, and someone intentionally switched it off, I'm sure the church could clarify whether it had to be an "insider" or whether the switch was accessible to anyone.

What do you mean it was nothing....what was the news from LE?

A man

Glammie- I agree but what % of men? My husband would not, my 30 yr old son would not, my dad would not -and I feel they are pretty handy- seems like an exp intruder or someone that works with these tools 😕

 

[lstiff]

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I see the AA trainer has photos of his 5:00 outside workout under a covering with all sorts of equipment. If I can figure out how to do fancy photo cover up stuff like Arkansasmimi, I'll bring a pic of the equipment that I *guess* MB *may* have been unloading (depending on which phase of the camp they were in).

Also... Speaking of FF, they drag those fire hoses around in these camps. Observation by me.

JMO

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Do we know where the "force entry" that LE talks about is? Is it at a different entry point than the one Missy used to enter the building?

If it's the same point of entry wouldn't Missy have noticed the break in. JMO

Hi Ranch.

Missy entered under the awning I believe. The break-in was in the back of the building. Other WBer's have identified that area to be the kitchen. See the pictures above in post #947. (not mine--credit goes to arkansasmimi for posting it originally)

 

[lstiff]

I couldn't help but think if Missy while in my zumba class tonight. I love my teacher and to imagine walking in on her dead on the floor, would be heart breaking. I don't know if I could go back.

This a 1000 times. How traumatic for those campers & most likely friends of Missy's who found her. They may never erase those images from their minds.

 

[TTF14]

Glammie- I agree but what % of men? My husband would not, my 30 yr old son would not, my dad would not -and I feel they are pretty handy- seems like an exp intruder or someone that works with these tools &#55357;&#56853;

My dad would have. My ex husband would, so would his dad and his brothers and all men in his family. My brother-in-law would. Several of my neighbors, too (although I can think of one who would not). I think it's a fairly common assumption to make that most men would know how to do this and most women would not. I mean, I (female) might be able to eventually figure it out if I was given the right tools, but I doubt I'd know which tools to take along to the job and how to use them quickly.

 

[Montjoy]

The real eerie part is you can see the security cameras in the last pic. The perp had to know they were not working. If they didn't know, did he/she not care, if they were?

I don't see how 'the perp had to know they were not working'. This seems like more of an assumption than a conclusion. If the perp was already in the 'swat getup', and was recorded multiple times inside, s/he may just not have cared. That's a benefit of a disguise.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

The police stated it had been moved inside in I believe the second presser. If someone has not already answered this. Sorry playing catch up.

Thank you! I should re-watch all the videos and make notes. So much info yet so little info! Lol

 

[Bootsctr]

Break-in was on the opposite side of the building from where Missy entered. The perp did not enter from the back.

 

[Glammie]

Thank you! I should re-watch all the videos and make notes. So much info yet so little info! Lol

It is the first presser. I was wrong but Mimi found it.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Glammie- I agree but what % of men? My husband would not, my 30 yr old son would not, my dad would not -and I feel they are pretty handy- seems like an exp intruder or someone that works with these tools &#62997;

It's not fair to judge things by gender. There are women who are very capable with tools and men who are not.

JMO

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Break-in was on the opposite side of the building from where Missy entered. The perp did not enter from the back.

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