TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 April 2016 #3

[Bill Carson]

bbm

So, in the part of the video where the perp is opening the dutch doors, is that next to the main entrance, or what? There is an "Exit" sign over those partially open doors...

Yes, that is the entrance that I am referring to. That EXIT sign is over a set of double doors that go out to the Porte Cochere where MB had parked her truck. You can't see it from the video, but those are a set of doors that you have to go through two doors to get to that lobby. The inner set of doors---which you can see at the 1:15 mark in the video---are propped open, but the outer set of doors would be closed and locked.

I know that there is some speculation that what you see is a single-set of doors, and that the door going outside to the parking lot is just propped wide open, but I would bet a week's wages that it is a double set of doors.

 

[lstiff]

I find it odd that this happened while her husband was out of town. IMO, that shows me (in addition to other things) someone knew her well enough to know there was no way he would be there (to help set up? Drive her?) and "what if" they had to do it later? She would be home alone while the kids were at school. JMO

 

[liz b.]

Lol. Now that was very cute. Bash the poor campers arrival time for 100 posts. And then ask permission with a Thank In Advance.

Lmao. I almost fell out my chair.

But you are correct. The arrival time of the first and 2nd camper is definitely relevant to the small time frame window that we have. Jmo.

I hardly ever "bash" anything in my posts. I'm just curious as to LE's timeline.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Cameras first show the perpetrator at 3:50 am. Cameras show Missy arriving at 4:18 am. Apparently a camper self-reports arriving at 4:35 am and not noticing any vehicles leaving. 4:18 to 4:35 is 17 minutes.

If the perpetrator left by car, this means they had to have killed Missy and left the premises within 15 minutes in order to have not been noticed by the camper arriving at 4:35.

LE has said the perpetrator left shortly after killing Missy, which means either they're assuming he/she left because they're seen on video heading towards an exit OR they have an eyewitness who saw them leaving. The person who arrived at 4:35 may have seen something that isn't being released to the public.

Maybe they brought in the dog to see if it could follow the perpetrator's scent through the building and outside to see where the perpetrator went when they left - to a parking spot, or maybe they walked to an area where a vehicle was waiting for them. Then they could have tried to collect evidence from that area.

I think that the boots were covered in some way to obscure the pattern on the sole. Can't match shoes for evidence if there's no tread pattern...can't even tell what kind of boots they were.

Why do they show us the false calm walk of the perp before the killing? But they don't show us the running or hurrying up out after the deed was done.

I'm sure the walk would be different once they had to high tail it up and and out of there. Very misleading indeed.

 

[BluSkies]

Yes, that is the entrance that I am referring to. That EXIT sign is over a set of double doors that go out to the Porte Cochere where MB had parked her truck. You can't see it from the video, but those are a set of doors that you have to go through two doors to get to that lobby. The inner set of doors---which you can see at the 1:15 mark in the video---are propped open, but the outer set of doors would be closed and locked.

I know that there is some speculation that what you see is a single-set of doors, and that the door going outside to the parking lot is just propped wide open, but I would bet a week's wages that it is a double set of doors.

Is that by the wall where he/she was touching wall while walking by any chance?

 

[liz b.]

Hypothetically, it's possible that the killer *was* setting up an attack on someone, but that person wasn't expected to arrive until later in the morning. It's possible he/she wasn't waiting for Missy (and wasn't aware of the workout group) and they were preparing to ambush whoever would normally be the person to open up the church and/or unlock any Sunday collections. Watching the videos, it almost seemed as if part of what the perpetrator was doing was trying to get a feel for places where a potential victim could attempt to hide or try to barricade themselves. Missy's arrival screwed up their plans/timeline and they panicked.
jmo etc.

It's probably all about the money. jmo

 

[dizzychick]

I hope the Feds come up with their profile of this killer and make it public. I would love to see what they think the type of person is who could commit this crime. I feel they possess one triat called " duping delight" it is very interesting which I am sure this killer is oozing with..

 

[AshleyTX]

Maybe the perp drove a motorcycle .


From the image you gave, very easy to park behind church, enter and leaving the church from rear and biking through those trees and beyond. Missy would have not seen the glass damage if it was in the back of the church. Maybe she saw the glass at the end of the hall, the perp confronted her there, then he went to the front doors and propped them open and exited the back again.....jmo

Hi all,

I have been following this case since early on. I live in the Dallas area so it has hit pretty close to home. Previously, I followed the Christina Morris case here.

A motorcycle in the rain? I guess it's possible (not likely IMO) since the thunderstorms were severe that day. Not just a light sprinkle.

But, if the rain wasn't as heavy there, I could totally see the killer leaving undetected in his attire unnoticed on a motorcycle. Can anyone tell if the police decals are Velcroed onto his vest? Back a couple of years ago, my boyfriend (a local LEO) asked me to order him police Velcro patches for his extra bullet proof vest he carries in his personal car.

Anyways, the large police logos look professional (and affixed) but could have been peeled right off and disposed of therefore leaving the murderer with plain black attire riding off.

 

[Bill Carson]

Why do they show us the false calm walk of the perp before the killing? But they don't show us the running or hurrying up out after the deed was done.

I'm sure the walk would be different once they had to high tail up and and out of there. Very misleading indeed.

They have not released all of the video. They have not released the video of MB arriving, and they haven't said (correct me if I'm wrong) that is there is no tape of the perp leaving. There might be video of the perp leaving, for all we know.

 

[meade]

IMO, the reason the post from the night before was deleted is because the murderer posted a response to it or liked it. This doesn't necessarily mean it was a CG member- the posts were public and anyone could comment on them I believe. I think the PD asked the family (or whomever is in charge of her account now) to delete it so that the general public wouldn't figure it out and begin a which hunt, spooking the perp before they have all their ducks in a row to arrest the perp.

JMO.

Can someone get me up to speed on this? What is this post issue?

Also, unrelated note, but I wouldn't be surprised if killers posted on this site. Has this ever been confirmed before, or speculated?

 

[Marah]

Have they released the video they have of Missy in the church?

 

[DexterMorgan]

I hardly ever "bash" anything in my posts. I'm just curious as to LE's timeline.

I was just kidding with you LB. And enjoying the thread before it starts going back to having 20 new pages of comments every 15 minutes.

Nothing but love here. Thanks for the understanding.

 

[flourish]

Thanks. When I respond to just a particular portion of another's comment, I usually just delete the portion I'm not responding to.

Frankly, you gotta be careful with this, too, as I've been yelled at by posters for doing that and therefore ignoring/discounting/misconstruing the part of the post I'd deleted. So if I do that, I add a "snipped by me for emphasis and/or space." people tend to get upset if they feel like you're messing with their words not saying anyone was doing that here just offering my two cents.

 

[lstiff]

Agree with your last sentence.But, that idea assumes that LE is telling the truth. They may not be. jmo We just don't know what they know. Where would the video's last frame have taken place, I wonder ? The one that shows the person hammering,maybe breaking windows ? Was this the last image they had of him, ? Another question is : was there video surveillance at both entrance/exit doors ? Did LE see him leaving ?

They have not released all of the video. They have not released the video of MB arriving, and they haven't said (correct me if I'm wrong) that is there is no tape of the perp leaving. There might be video of the perp leaving, for all we know.

Well now I'm wondering.. Obviously there is video of the campers entering the scene (as well as LE, EMS FF) so they have an advantage here bc the "after" is on camera. This will allow for reaction and behavior to be analyzed *if* they suspect the perp didn't leave or returned, etc. Unless the perp left out a window or some back door on a side without a camera, they have footage (IMO) they did say "left after" or something close to that so, IMO, they have the big puzzle pieces we are missing.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Yes, that is the entrance that I am referring to. That EXIT sign is over a set of double doors that go out to the Porte Cochere where MB had parked her truck. You can't see it from the video, but those are a set of doors that you have to go through two doors to get to that lobby. The inner set of doors---which you can see at the 1:15 mark in the video---are propped open, but the outer set of doors would be closed and locked.

I know that there is some speculation that what you see is a single-set of doors, and that the door going outside to the parking lot is just propped wide open, but I would bet a week's wages that it is a double set of doors.

If it is two sets of doors, why would someone only prop open one set? It might be two sets, just I don't know why you'd open one but not the other. This is the photo I have that I believe is of those doors and it only looks like one set:
https://www.facebook.com/1793451023...1461531408./10150972020457343/?type=3&theater

 

[liz b.]

I was just kidding with you LB. And enjoying the thread before it starts going back to having 20 new pages of comments every 15 minutes.

Nothing but love here. Thanks for the understanding.

back at ya... So, Dex, do you anticipate this thread acceleration happening soon...?

 

[Bill Carson]

Is that by the wall where he/she was touching wall while walking by any chance?

No. If I have a correct picture of the building in my mind (and I think we have others here who have actually been in the building so they can correct me), there are four hallways in the building. I'll call them west, south, east, and north.

In the latest video, I believe (MOO) that we first see the perp in the hallway on the west side of the building, the camera faces south. He turns and walk down the hall away from the camera (south).

Then we see him in the main lobby, which I also refer to as the South Hallway. The first camera shot is facing West.

Then the perp makes his way up the East Hallway, headed north, where he stops momentarily to open the Dutch doors and keeps going. The camera is pointing north up that hallway.

Then the perp makes his way back down the East Hallway (traveling south), and he turns into an interior room.

Finally, we see the perp in a different hallway that we have not seen before, and I suspect this is the North Hallway, camera facing East.

It would be nice if we had a layout of the building, but we don't yet.

 

[Snow Flower]

This might be onto something. A planned mass shooting at the church, but she arrived early and this disrupted the plans, so the perp fled after killing her. This actually makes sense to me.

I wondered about this too but I don't think so. There were plenty of places there for the perp to hide until everyone was there. JMO

 

[moslym3]

Pretty sure this has been posted...but just in case. You can see the doors she came in here: View down main hall toward door

There are a few other photos in this series where you can basically track the wall on the left from across the atrium entrance. At the far end of this hall, near that set of glass doors, to the right are the two doors, one of which he/she opened and the other he/she attempted to breach. To the left is the hallway he/she crossed into with the split door. In the foreground of this shot we have the large atrium/glass entrance to the right and the large auditorium to the left.

My guess is that this building has a symmetrical layout - and that's how it looks on google earth. Glass atrium entrance with a large auditorium directly ahead of it in the center of the building. Hallways and rooms around the perimeter. Covered drive way off one side of the main hallway. Main hallway and atrium has the patterned floor. Other hallways have a plain floor.

 

[verbonica]

Yes, that is the entrance that I am referring to. That EXIT sign is over a set of double doors that go out to the Porte Cochere where MB had parked her truck. You can't see it from the video, but those are a set of doors that you have to go through two doors to get to that lobby. The inner set of doors---which you can see at the 1:15 mark in the video---are propped open, but the outer set of doors would be closed and locked.

I know that there is some speculation that what you see is a single-set of doors, and that the door going outside to the parking lot is just propped wide open, but I would bet a week's wages that it is a double set of doors.

I'd agree that there's probably an entry area, or vestibule, or whatever, between those doors and outside. It's too dark on the other side for that area to be on the exterior or the building, which would be more lit up; plus, there is no demarcation on the floor tiles to show a break from exterior paving materials. I just don't know precisely which side of the building it's on... compared to whichever side of the building that the murder occurred.