TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers,45, murdered in church/person in SWAT gear,18 April 2016 #3

[al66pine]

I meant the sniffer dogs would pick up any gun fire residue including church goers who attended services the prior day. Really just guessing at this point. :blushing:

^ bbm Good point about K9 assistance.
Post #428 re GSR swabs & tests says GSR may be undetectable just several hours after gun is fired.*

K9s can follow some other scents even days later. Could K9s detect GSR from persons who attended church/were in the bldg the prior day?Any source on that?


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* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunshot_residue. Scientific Working Group for Gunshot Residue (SWGGSR) http://www.swggsr.org .

 

[liz b.]

Cameras wouldn't explain how they'd know the time of the early camper if they stayed inside their car. If there's no cameras around and it's only the camper's word, nothing is to say that the camper didn't arrive at 3:30 AM and park on the opposite side of the main entrance where Missy wouldn't see it upon arriving.

This is what I mean. It's not that they arrived early that I wonder about, but how early actually was it ? If they did text someone at that arrival time of 4 35 am and thus establish this as a supposed arrival time, could they not have actually done this from inside the church ? just baffling...

 

[Oregonmama]

Cameras wouldn't explain how they'd know the time of the early camper if they stayed inside their car. If there's no cameras around and it's only the camper's word, nothing is to say that the camper didn't arrive at 3:30 AM and park on the opposite side of the main entrance where Missy wouldn't see it upon arriving.

The camper that was early was not involved, IMO.
A lot of ppl I know arrive early to fitness groups so they can socialize and start their stretches.

The person who did this knew the routine from someone telling them when ppl arrive. I think it was a man who committed the murder but I also think another person was involved indirectly as well.....JMO

I'm not talking about family members either. It was someone in her social circle, MOO

 

[DexterMorgan]

So we can slueth the camper now but hubby's trip is a no no?

The camper may be a coincidence just like other coincidences. Jmo

 

[liz b.]

The camper told LE. So that's how LE knew. And I'm sure they will verify through pings and other activities on the campers phone.

I just hope that you are never the first to arrive to the bank (before business hours) and waited outside or in your car while a unknowningly bank robbery was taken place and the perps dashed out the back. Lol.

Cameras outside banks now, but I will take your comment under advisement

 

[liz b.]

So we can slueth the camper now but hubby's trip is a no no?

The camper may be a coincidence just like other coincidences. Jmo

OOOh, those coinkidinks can tell so much...

 

[Bill Carson]

What does "bbm" stand for?

 

[Sparky]

So we can slueth the camper now but hubby's trip is a no no?

The camper may be a coincidence just like other coincidences. Jmo

Has the camper been named POI/Suspect? If not, then no.

 

[DexterMorgan]

This is what I mean. It's not that they arrived early that I wonder about, but how early actually was it ? If they did text someone at that arrival time of 4 35 am and thus establish this as a supposed arrival time, could they not have actually done this from inside the church ? just baffling...

Lol. But what if the 2nd camper is the perp and they left and came back after the first camper to put immediate suspicions on the first camper. Lol.

Why would the first camper commit a crime and then sit in the lot and wait for others.

Wouldnt the first one at the scene be the first suspect. Jmo.

 

[DexterMorgan]

What does "bbm" stand for?

Bolded by me. They bold a particular part of your post to specifically reply to as not replying to the entire comment.

 

[liltexans]

Not many new articles out there today about Missy. I'm not sure if this article from earlier today was posted yet.

Many from her Camp Gladiator family arrived at the funeral wearing work out clothes and red t-shirts in unity. They said she became passionate about fitness several years ago when she got in the best shape of her life, then wanted to help others do the same.

http://www.fox4news.com/news/131273502-story

 

[MzOpinion8d]

In the last presser the authorities said that the gait info from the public was really not helpful anymore. I believe they know either who it was or WHY the killer was walking that way.

Well, what he said is that speculation on why the person walked that way isn't helpful, only specific information about someone who walks that way is helpful. Which makes sense. On here it became a peg-legged pregnant ballerina due to all the speculation! But "Hey, Pat Smith from the red house down by the corner walks like that ever since their lawn mower ran over their foot" would still be helpful.

 

[liz b.]

Lol. But what if the 2nd camper is the perp and they left and came back after the first camper to put immediate suspicions on the first camper. Lol.

Why would the first camper commit a crime and then sit in the lot and wait for others.

Wouldnt the first one at the scene be the first suspect. Jmo.

Well, IDK, perhaps they were,or are indeed the"first suspect" ?

 

[al66pine]

What does "bbm" stand for?

bbm = bolded by me (i.e., I've bolded the part of poster's above quote that I'll refer to in my post)
sbm = snipped by me (i.e., I've deleted part of poster's above quote that is not important in my post)

 

[Bill Carson]

Bolded by me. They bold a particular part of your post to specifically reply to as not replying to the entire comment.

Thanks. When I respond to just a particular portion of another's comment, I usually just delete the portion I'm not responding to.

 

[liz b.]

Has the camper been named POI/Suspect? If not, then no.

Sparky, respectfully, is it okay to just wonder about the arrival times given to us by LE ? Without going any further than that ? TIA Liz

 

[neesaki]

IMO, the reason the post from the night before was deleted is because the murderer posted a response to it or liked it. This doesn't necessarily mean it was a CG member- the posts were public and anyone could comment on them I believe. I think the PD asked the family (or whomever is in charge of her account now) to delete it so that the general public wouldn't figure it out and begin a which hunt, spooking the perp before they have all their ducks in a row to arrest the perp.

JMO.

I'm just trying to get caught up, but after going back a bit don't find what FB post it is you're referring to that was deleted. do you mind clarifying or is it not allowed to discuss here. Tia

 

[liltexans]

Midlothian Assistant Police Chief Kevin Johnson said Friday that the department believes someone knows who the suspect is but hasn't yet come forward.

"My heart says one thing and my head says another thing," Rickabaugh said about the video.

"It hurts me that there's somebody still out there, but I'm confident that they'll be caught, very confident."

http://www.khou.com/news/local/texas/murdered-midlothian-mother-laid-to-rest/151790155

 

[SpanishInquisition]

The early camper may have reported her arrival time to LE that precisely. Maybe she looked at the clock on her dashboard as she was parking. Maybe she sent a text or an email to someone when she arrived, and was able to show LE the timestamp on her phone. I see nothing suspicious about having a precise arrival time on the early-arriving camper.

Unless there's something to verify it, it is only an alibi. A text in particular saying your someplace wouldn't prove it. I could send a text/email right now saying I'm at the Creekside Church in Midlothian, but just because I texted it, it doesn't mean it is true. This is in part why I made a big deal about the LE spokesperson saying the camper was 'outside' for 'a while,' which if they were loitering by the side entrance rather than sitting inside their car, the security cameras could validate or invalidate where they were for a certain point in time to show they weren't in their car during this time changing out of the SWAT outfit and into their CG clothes.

 

[Gae]

What about a non-traditional firing weapon of some sort? About 30 years ago, there was a case, I believe, in Oklahoma, where a former cop shot and killed a woman with a poisoned crossbow. We didn't see the perp carrying something that large, but now they make smaller crossbow pistols and other weapons, which are stealth and much quieter, but quite deadly. Something like that would keep the noise factor down.