TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #36

[Jethro4WS]

I'm with you on many of your points. Are you of the opinion the Altima seen on SWFA camera is most likely involved? In your scenario of SP leaving on foot, approx 100-150 ft off church property, what is your best guess on SP exiting the church, the church grounds, and mode of getaway once off church property?

I believe that there never was a vehicle involved. I truly believe that MPD never actually saw a car in a corner of a frame of a video from in the church at least from the video we have seen and knowing the layout and structure of the church. I believe they misinterpreted what they were seeing in one of the camera views when they were actually looking at a golf cart that is parked on the Northwest entry.

As for the Altima, my original line of thought at the time was that it was released to the public not so much as a lead requiring public help but as a message to SP. However, not too long after this I came across in Street View an Altima that matches that description parked next to a walled in dumpster area in an out of the way part of the parking lot where my POI(s) work. I tipped this particular vehicle even though the Street View image was old because it may have belonged to them. My current thinking on the Altima is unchanged. If it had any involvement whatsoever I would expect it to be part of the obfuscation and subterfuge - that is, it was meant to be seen where it was seen when it was seen. It is very possible that the Altima has nothing to do with this and it is just coincidental that an Altima matching the description could be seen where I found it.

 

[Razz]

I believe that SP has a military background. Possibly involved in military planning - in terms of planning operations - or at least schooled in it. The reason that I believe the murder was planned for later has to do with the phases of the moon. If it had not been raining and it were a clear night instead it would have been a very bright moon. The next new moon (or close to it) would have been a little over two weeks later. The prior new moon would have coincided with Easter making that infeasible. While you can't plan for the weather far in advance, you can plan for the phases of the moon and plan for darker nights.

I am still unclear on this. It is your feeling that he was planning for 2 weeks later because the moon would not have been as bright. So are you thinking he decided to do it earlier because of the rain? That the rain would give him better cover?Why would he change his plans? Especially if he's so disciplined? The rain could have caused him/her more problems than a bright moon. He then had to change his plan after the rain began. (Which only gave him a few days?) He/She had to figure out how he was going to get inside without getting wet. How did he do that? How was he going to keep his shoes dry so not to leave tracks?

Again, just testing theories.



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[ezrah]

I believe that there never was a vehicle involved. I truly believe that MPD never actually saw a car in a corner of a frame of a video from in the church at least from the video we have seen and knowing the layout and structure of the church. I believe they misinterpreted what they were seeing in one of the camera views when they were actually looking at a golf cart that is parked on the Northwest entry.

As for the Altima, my original line of thought at the time was that it was released to the public not so much as a lead requiring public help but as a message to SP. However, not too long after this I came across in Street View an Altima that matches that description parked next to a walled in dumpster area in an out of the way part of the parking lot where my POI(s) work. I tipped this particular vehicle even though the Street View image was old because it may have belonged to them. My current thinking on the Altima is unchanged. If it had any involvement whatsoever I would expect it to be part of the obfuscation and subterfuge - that is, it was meant to be seen where it was seen when it was seen. It is very possible that the Altima has nothing to do with this and it is just coincidental that an Altima matching the description could be seen where I found it.

I believe I vaguely remember the pictures in an old thread of a car by a dumpster from street view and also a large brick house that was blurred on street view. Am I correct about that?

What is the POIs connection to MB and how did they get on your radar?


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[Jethro4WS]

I am still unclear on this. It is your feeling that he was planning for 2 weeks later because the moon would not have been as bright. So are you thinking he decided to do it earlier because of the rain? That the rain would give him better cover?Why would he change his plans? Especially if he's so disciplined? The rain could have caused him/her more problems than a bright moon. He then had to change his plan after the rain began. (Which only gave him a few days?) He/She had to figure out how he was going to get inside without getting wet. How did he do that? How was he going to keep his shoes dry so not to leave tracks?

Again, just testing theories.



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Not because of the rain. Though the rain would have been of no consequence. I suspect that whether or not BB would actually be going on that trip was not known until closer to the time of the trip. I believe that it is very possible that depending on BB's medical issues he might not have gone. So I think that is the opportunity that arose. That MB would also be out of town would also not have been known until closer to that week either. And, like I also speculated BB might have already become aware of CW and there may have been some known drama going on. An opportunity to gain an advantage in getting away with the crime with all of that in the mix. Not for nothing but if SP acted alone, it may be the case that their spouse was out of town or working at night that made early Monday possible as well.

It would seem to me to be hard to plan this in a short time frame and I would think in planning it would also set a date - including a cover to be away from their spouse or their spouse away if they acted alone. So Missy's trip and BB's trips would have to have been known to the killer months prior and I think that unlikely. On the other hand, if the plan is set then the date is moveable. At any rate that is my thinking. I could very well be wrong.

 

[Jethro4WS]

I believe I vaguely remember the pictures in an old thread of a car by a dumpster from street view and also a large brick house that was blurred on street view. Am I correct about that?

What is the POIs connection to MB and how did they get on your radar?


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Considering that MPD dumped the search warrants as early as they did - they didn't have to - my thinking was that it was to ramp up pressure on one of the people mentioned in them. When that went nowhere - no one lawyered up, no one with police following them around, no arrest - that ruled those people out for me. But my take has been that the killer was close to Missy and/or the killer's spouse was close to Missy. So start with the closest friends and their spouses and see who has the kind of background. See who has the means. See who might just be intolerant in the religious/moral sense with what was going on with MB. It doesn't take long to find the closest circle of 6 to 8 friends.

I could be very wrong.

 

[Bushnell]

(in reply to the youtube video on page 62)

I'm so glad you posted this, never noticed the arms before, what a match. A lot of people on here say they've ruled out RB, well that's the dumbest thing you can say about this case. Cause here's the problem with trying to convict anyone else,all the defense team has to do is to show this video and say it's RB, how could a jury watch this video and convict someone else? The small town cops go to California to check on an alibi and botched it up, end this madness and start over with the FBI checking out the alibi, they'll bust it wide open and we can end all this.

 

[SteveS]

Hi all. Apologies if this has been raised (I'm sure it has) - but I'm new to this and there's SO much here.

The perp's walk/gait, to me, is strikingly similar to Randy Bevers':
.

RB was in Cali at the time of the murder so it couldn't have been him. Nor does it make much sense that it would have been him, either.

 

[SteveS]

What are the laws In regard to search warrants in TX.? Can they remain sealed for certain reasons until an arrest is made?

Certain affidavits can be sealed, by judicial order. (To conceal a SW, which technically is not allowed, LE will make a sealed affidavit the entirety of a SW, which effectively renders the SW to be sealed.) But there are time limits.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Does BB have any brothers that he may be close too.

 

[ezrah]

Does BB have any brothers that he may be close too.

Chad Tucker is his half brother and spoke to media soon after the murder.


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[dogmatica]

(in reply to the youtube video on page 62)

I'm so glad you posted this, never noticed the arms before, what a match. A lot of people on here say they've ruled out RB, well that's the dumbest thing you can say about this case. Cause here's the problem with trying to convict anyone else,all the defense team has to do is to show this video and say it's RB, how could a jury watch this video and convict someone else? The small town cops go to California to check on an alibi and botched it up, end this madness and start over with the FBI checking out the alibi, they'll bust it wide open and we can end all this.

I just can't get over it - the arms, the gait, the pointed out toes...but if he has an alibi...is it air tight?

 

[Jax49]

I just can't get over it - the arms, the gait, the pointed out toes...but if he has an alibi...is it air tight?

You may be surprised now that you are conscious of those traits. Lots of us found we saw people everywhere with those same characteristics, when it was first mentioned way back when.

As to the alibi, as far as we know it is solid. MOO

 

[Bootsctr]

I believe that there never was a vehicle involved. I truly believe that MPD never actually saw a car in a corner of a frame of a video from in the church at least from the video we have seen and knowing the layout and structure of the church. I believe they misinterpreted what they were seeing in one of the camera views when they were actually looking at a golf cart that is parked on the Northwest entry.

As for the Altima, my original line of thought at the time was that it was released to the public not so much as a lead requiring public help but as a message to SP. However, not too long after this I came across in Street View an Altima that matches that description parked next to a walled in dumpster area in an out of the way part of the parking lot where my POI(s) work. I tipped this particular vehicle even though the Street View image was old because it may have belonged to them. My current thinking on the Altima is unchanged. If it had any involvement whatsoever I would expect it to be part of the obfuscation and subterfuge - that is, it was meant to be seen where it was seen when it was seen. It is very possible that the Altima has nothing to do with this and it is just coincidental that an Altima matching the description could be seen where I found it.

A golf cart? Does it belong to the church? Sorry I missed any discussion regarding a golf cart.

Considering that MPD dumped the search warrants as early as they did - they didn't have to - my thinking was that it was to ramp up pressure on one of the people mentioned in them. When that went nowhere - no one lawyered up, no one with police following them around, no arrest - that ruled those people out for me. But my take has been that the killer was close to Missy and/or the killer's spouse was close to Missy. So start with the closest friends and their spouses and see who has the kind of background. See who has the means. See who might just be intolerant in the religious/moral sense with what was going on with MB. It doesn't take long to find the closest circle of 6 to 8 friends.

I could be very wrong.

So you are saying the motive was SP was offended by MB's relationships and they felt she needed to be taken out because she lacked morals? Just want to make sure I'm following your thought process. I find your posts quite enlightening!

 

[Amateurpi1]

I just can't get over it - the arms, the gait, the pointed out toes...but if he has an alibi...is it air tight?

I agree that the similarities are too close to ignore even if he has an alibi (for now). I mean, maybe he didn’t do it, but I won’t be surprised if something breaks in the case and it turns out that he was able to “fix” an alibi. But I can see that someone else could walk like that due to the gear he (or she) was wearing. Yet, as you said, there’s the arm swing, and even the shape of the shoulders, etc.

 

[dogmatica]

Yes, not just the gait, but the body shape as well.

 

[Oregonmama]

Hoping there is an arrest soon! The girls need closure.....

 

[sloane7777]

I hope I'm wrong but I am calling this one ...I think it will fall into the files of the many many ,many, many, many many (how many times am I allowed to say this?) unsolved murders here in Texas, I suspect we will be discussing this until the cows come home. there are too many players .

 

[Oregonmama]

I hope I'm wrong but I am calling this one ...I think it will fall into the files of the many many ,many, many, many many (how many times am I allowed to say this?) unsolved murders here in Texas, I suspect we will be discussing this until the cows come home. there are too many players .

Fill me in briefly. I heard about this theory many many threads ago.......

 

[sloane7777]

didn't mean to smiley face it eeks ! but it seems in every murder esp. here in TX if there are too many directions to go its just not given any resources or time until something obvious happens, there are so many unsolved murders here you could never even get a complete list of them , sad but true......aren't I just a little ray of sunshine !

 

[Razz]

I don't believe for a second that anyone has a rock solid alibi even though they can "show" they do.

I think SP was fearless, on a mission, not too terribly bright and a bad .

Police couldn't figure out SP's wanderings in the church because I think SP was clueless and this may have been his/her 1st time in checking things out.

The get up was laughable but it sure served it's purpose. (Maybe).

Did SP know that MB went to the bathrooms first? I don't really know, anymore. And, if after the murder he hightailed it out the door Missy came in, it may not have given the camera time to engage. I believe the camera worked when Missy came in because the camera had time to focus on her truck.

I used to think the Altima was a red herring, but now I'm not so sure.

The timing of this makes no sense unless....the perp(s) knew or thought they had "rock solid" alibis and it was now or never.

This is just a theory but one that has taken a while to hone. It continues to evolve and I hate where it has taken me. I hope that I'm wrong.

Please poke holes in this theory, but when you do, please give me reasons why this theory doesn't work. And saying he/she has a rock solid alibi isn't going to do it unless you were there with the perp or you are the perp or the police have unconditionally cleared them from any participation, or knowledge.





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