TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #36

[janesmith787]

ALL JMO, and strictly that.

I agree with the poster who thinks they're building a case. Reading 100s of posts made me start to question, but I always have to go back to my gut.

Read between the lines of what they haven't said:
1. Haven't officially cleared anyone
2. Haven't told the public to be alert and scared
3. Haven't released 911 calls (I believe to protect campers who called, and also if there's info only perp would know.)
4. CG trainers aren't afraid of dark, early morning camps (trainers were told not to speak of it, but that's it)
5. People on that SW were there for a reason, but haven't explained why...although some are obvious

I think they did the Altima thing to shut people up. If it's as horrific as I've been told, it was definitely a personal attack ALL JMO. I was told it was a closed casket, but I'm not stating that as facts. There were *rumors* of her liking men of other ethnicities. JMO, but that could also set off rage....I dont agree with that mindset and don't know how to be PC about it. But, this is a small town in TX. So if they're already upset about infidelity/money, add that in the mix and someone could justify it in their own mind.

I don't for a second believe they're clueless. I think they know, but have to line it all up. The gun store videos were insanely detailed. I believe there's 1 perp, but accomplices. Would be interesting to see their mode if communication with each other if that's the case. My gut says someone involved via an affair.

Sidenote-Jethro, you've got amazing insight and I always look forward to your posts.

Again all JMO.

 

[janesmith787]

Also, another thought makes me wonder if she was planning to meet someone early. Day 1 of brand new camp was 4/17 so not unusual for new people to come. Can't help but wonder if she saw who it was under the garb.

I cant remember if it was MPD who mentioned perp spending a lot of time in kitchen or just on here. But, that's another thing that makes me think they know more. They've never told us what scene of crime was like or what kitchen was like. They did turn it over quick, but maybe they got what they needed. I think there's details only perp would know, and they don't want to let on that they're on them. Pressure busts the pipe, and that's a huge burden for anyone to carry. Praying they bust soon and this case is solved!!

JMO

 

[Flatbush]

I remember it well. For the first minute, I believe, we did not know if it was a man or woman. Finally the camera panned up to a gentleman's face. I don't recall that he was a Texas Ranger. He was wearing jeans and was minus the Texas Ranger cowboy hat.

I am of the opinion that whomever killed her was all bundled up for 3 reasons.

1. ID as not to scare Missy away.
2. Conceal their identify so not to be recognized on camera.
3. Bundle up so lesser chance of leaving a clue revealing their identity.

I could be wrong.



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[janesmith787]

I remember it well. For the first minute, I believe, we did not know if it was a man or woman. Finally the camera panned up to a gentleman's face. I don't recall that he was a Texas Ranger. He was wearing jeans and was minus the Texas Ranger cowboy hat.

Is this the one? http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/murdered-midlothian-mother-laid-to-rest/151326157

 

[SteveS]

I don't think there's any possible way LE doesn't have a tag number for that Altima. The cameras at that gun shop were amazing. There are demo videos of them on YouTube showing how clearly they recorded.

If they have the plate and really needed help, then they'd have provided the plate number for the public to be able to truly locate the car. Since they didn't give the plate number, that means if they knew it as you say, they had already found whoever they needed to find.

So assuming they did have the plate, it means they did already locate the driver. So, why would they ask the public's help to find someone they don't need help to find?

 

[ezrah]

You may be surprised now that you are conscious of those traits. Lots of us found we saw people everywhere with those same characteristics, when it was first mentioned way back when.

As to the alibi, as far as we know it is solid. MOO

I had taken a screen shot from a TV video doing a segment on MBs murder. The gait of this person caught my eye. I'll also provide a link to the vid. http://www.insideedition.com/videos...s-memorial-service-looking-for-murder-suspect

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[Jethro4WS]

Also, another thought makes me wonder if she was planning to meet someone early. Day 1 of brand new camp was 4/17 so not unusual for new people to come. Can't help but wonder if she saw who it was under the garb.

I cant remember if it was MPD who mentioned perp spending a lot of time in kitchen or just on here. But, that's another thing that makes me think they know more. They've never told us what scene of crime was like or what kitchen was like. They did turn it over quick, but maybe they got what they needed. I think there's details only perp would know, and they don't want to let on that they're on them. Pressure busts the pipe, and that's a huge burden for anyone to carry. Praying they bust soon and this case is solved!!

JMO

There are several key things that MPD knows (and few others) and the killer know:

(1) What Missy saw when she walked into that church. Were the doors to the rooms that were left open by SP still like that.
(2) Which direction did Missy go upon entering the church. Did she continue north up the West hall or did she turn east down the South hall or west toward the bathrooms.
(3) Where exactly was Missy killed in the church.
(4) How exactly was she killed, the exact cause of death.
(5) What time exactly was SP first seen in the church and where was that.
(6) What time exactly was SP last seen in the church and where was that.
(7) They stated in search warrant affidavits that there was glass around the body. Was there glass found under her body.
(8) Did Missy have any defensive wounds at all.
(9) Nothing was reported missing from the church. Was there anything that was missing from Missy's truck.
(10) According to MPD Missy was last seen entering the church carrying stuff. Was what she was carrying found where she was killed.
(11) Was Missy's iPhone found on her person. It wasn't in the truck for sure.
(12) Did Missy have a purse/wallet with her. None was in the truck.
(13) Did SP leave any item(s) at the scene other than the tools observed in the video.
(14) What was the position of Missy's body. Did any of those that found Missy move her body in any way.
(15) Did Missy have any tattoos in private places that were exposed or marred/obliterated.
(16) Who was the last person to contact Missy, prior to her death, by phone call or message (regardless if answered).
(17) Who was the last person that Missy called or messaged prior to her death (regardless if answered).

 

[Bootsctr]

Is this the one? http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/murdered-midlothian-mother-laid-to-rest/151326157

Yes, the video at the bottom of the page shows the gentleman. Thank you! I attempted to search for it unsuccessfully.

 

[Cannonball3804]

I would hope you are right. Do you have an opinion on what it is that is holding them up from naming a person of interest? That is, forcing someone out in the public eye, all lawyered up? Maybe, in turn, causing someone else to come forward with more information (if it exists). It doesn't happen all the time, that I understand. But there are cases - like the Karen Swift case out of TN - where LE has named a person of interest over 4 years ago and insist they want to talk to the person but they won't cooperate (in the Karen Swift case due to the fact that the person of interest won't talk to LE without their lawyer present).

One thing about this case that bothers me is that there has been very little search warrant activity, if any, outside of the first week or two. Even the last two to be released - the Facebook warrants - were actually issued two days after Missy was killed. Every warrant we have seen are for companies that won't provide information without a warrant or for the victim where a warrant is required because she is dead. The only other warrant that we know about is one that includes the serial number of a gun but MPD won't release that one due to the serial number (despite a request to release it in redacted form). Whether that was aimed at who they believe did it or it led to a dead end is unknown.

Besides the lack of search warrant activity, there has also been a lack of DNA testing activity, as far as we know. Just the shirt and nothing else, unless they lied.

Or maybe they have lots of evidence bagged up but haven't sent it off for DNA testing. Maybe they're waiting for a strong suspect to emerge first before they test?


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[arkansasmimi]

There are several key things that MPD knows (and few others) and the killer know:

(1) What Missy saw when she walked into that church. Were the doors to the rooms that were left open by SP still like that.
(2) Which direction did Missy go upon entering the church. Did she continue north up the West hall or did she turn east down the South hall or west toward the bathrooms.
(3) Where exactly was Missy killed in the church.
(4) How exactly was she killed, the exact cause of death.
(5) What time exactly was SP first seen in the church and where was that.
(6) What time exactly was SP last seen in the church and where was that.
(7) They stated in search warrant affidavits that there was glass around the body. Was there glass found under her body.
(8) Did Missy have any defensive wounds at all.
(9) Nothing was reported missing from the church. Was there anything that was missing from Missy's truck.
(10) According to MPD Missy was last seen entering the church carrying stuff. Was what she was carrying found where she was killed.
(11) Was Missy's iPhone found on her person. It wasn't in the truck for sure.
(12) Did Missy have a purse/wallet with her. None was in the truck.
(13) Did SP leave any item(s) at the scene other than the tools observed in the video.
(14) What was the position of Missy's body. Did any of those that found Missy move her body in any way.
(15) Did Missy have any tattoos in private places that were exposed or marred/obliterated.
(16) Who was the last person to contact Missy, prior to her death, by phone call or message (regardless if answered).
(17) Who was the last person that Missy called or messaged prior to her death (regardless if answered).

RBBM, which is exactly why they - MPD - is not releasing more than they have to protect the integrity of the investigation. They said from the beginning... there are some things that only the Suspect/Murderer knows ....

This is what could happen, I commend MPD for being able to keep info contained as much as they have. JMHO...

from Sherri Papini case, MSM yesterday...snip:

Sherri Papini's husband might have compromised kidnapping probe with public comments, sheriff says
November 30, 2016
Sherri Papini’s husband may have compromised the investigation into her kidnapping when he released details of her time in captivity to the media without notifying law enforcement, Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko said Wednesday.

“I did not know he was going to release this until a short time before I did a media interview,” Bosenko said at a news conference. “Yes, I think with some of the details he has provided it could affect the integrity of the investigation.”

Keith Papini released a statement this week stating that his wife was found on the side of a road beaten, chained, with a bag over her head and weighing only 87 pounds.

"My first sight was my wife in a hospital bed, her face covered in bruises ranging from yellow to black because of repeated beatings, the bridge of her nose broken,” he wrote.
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-papini-abduction-shasta-20161130-story.html

 

[Oregonmama]

There are several key things that MPD knows (and few others) and the killer know:

(1) What Missy saw when she walked into that church. Were the doors to the rooms that were left open by SP still like that.
(2) Which direction did Missy go upon entering the church. Did she continue north up the West hall or did she turn east down the South hall or west toward the bathrooms.
(3) Where exactly was Missy killed in the church.
(4) How exactly was she killed, the exact cause of death.
(5) What time exactly was SP first seen in the church and where was that.
(6) What time exactly was SP last seen in the church and where was that.
(7) They stated in search warrant affidavits that there was glass around the body. Was there glass found under her body.
(8) Did Missy have any defensive wounds at all.
(9) Nothing was reported missing from the church. Was there anything that was missing from Missy's truck.
(10) According to MPD Missy was last seen entering the church carrying stuff. Was what she was carrying found where she was killed.
(11) Was Missy's iPhone found on her person. It wasn't in the truck for sure.
(12) Did Missy have a purse/wallet with her. None was in the truck.
(13) Did SP leave any item(s) at the scene other than the tools observed in the video.
(14) What was the position of Missy's body. Did any of those that found Missy move her body in any way.
(15) Did Missy have any tattoos in private places that were exposed or marred/obliterated.
(16) Who was the last person to contact Missy, prior to her death, by phone call or message (regardless if answered).
(17) Who was the last person that Missy called or messaged prior to her death (regardless if answered).

This is why it's so hard to speculate. We all can agree that the murder was personal and not random. From day one we never knew how long the perp was in the church. LE only can verify when he/she was first observed. I still think she was killed by the kitchen because LE stated the peep was in the kitchen for a long time. Did they know that missy would go to the kitchen to drop stuff off ? It's obvious the perp knew her schedule and what she did to get ready for the camp . Which to me means it was some one known to her but perhaps she didn't see them upfront until it was too late, which is why the swat outfit was worn. Praying that justice will come soon, the girls need it so much.

 

[finine]

This is why it's so hard to speculate. We all can agree that the murder was personal and not random. From day one we never knew how long the perp was in the church. LE only can verify when he/she was first observed. I still think she was killed by the kitchen because LE stated the peep was in the kitchen for a long time. Did they know that missy would go to the kitchen to drop stuff off ? It's obvious the perp knew her schedule and what she did to get ready for the camp . Which to me means it was some one known to her but perhaps she didn't see them upfront until it was too late, which is why the swat outfit was worn. Praying that justice will come soon, the girls need it so much.

But they've said she was located in the SW corner and that's opposite the kitchen...?


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[arkansasmimi]

Also, another thought makes me wonder if she was planning to meet someone early. Day 1 of brand new camp was 4/17 so not unusual for new people to come. Can't help but wonder if she saw who it was under the garb.

I cant remember if it was MPD who mentioned perp spending a lot of time in kitchen or just on here. But, that's another thing that makes me think they know more. They've never told us what scene of crime was like or what kitchen was like. They did turn it over quick, but maybe they got what they needed. I think there's details only perp would know, and they don't want to let on that they're on them. Pressure busts the pipe, and that's a huge burden for anyone to carry. Praying they bust soon and this case is solved!!

JMO

RBBM. MPD has said this.

May 4, 2016 http://www.fox4news.com/news/136850559-story
A Midlothian police spokesman said in a statement they will not be commenting further on the affidavits -- especially not about the cause of Missy's death or mechanism of injury. They said it is information only the killer would know.

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Warrant issued for cell phone

Terri Bevers, a mother to three girls, was laid to rest Saturday. Courtesy of the Bevers family
Wednesday
Posted May 4, 2016 at 7:31 PM
Updated May 4, 2016 at 7:32 PM http://www.waxahachietx.com/news/20160504/warrant-issued-for-cell-phone

Police issue update in Bevers murder case
“The Midlothian Police Department continues to thoroughly investigate the murder of Terri “Missy” Bevers. As with any investigation of this magnitude, search warrants are one component of the investigation,” the Midlothian Police Department stated in a press release Thursday.

The department is not offering additional comment on this or future warrants, the release stated, but will notify the public when it has more material that can be released.

“Furthermore, the department will not release any additional information regarding the specific cause of death or mechanism of injury to Mrs. Bevers as we believe this is information that only the killer would know,” the release stated. “We continue to vigorously track down every single lead that comes in.”

 

[Oregonmama]

But they've said she was located in the SW corner and that's opposite the kitchen...?


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Really? I missed that. The kitchen was close to the auditorium I believe where she was headed

 

[arkansasmimi]

Quote Originally Posted by finine View Post
But they've said she was located in the SW corner and that's opposite the kitchen...?
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Really? I missed that. The kitchen was close to the auditorium I believe where she was headed

SW corner was in one of the SW Affidavits.
Auditorium/Worship Center is located in the middle of the building. Kitchen is on the North side of the building middle, (where the metal door was damaged) MB entered into the Creekside Church on the SW side where her vehicle was parked under the awning. MPD confirmed this. Straight in front of her just past the South hallway to right is the door to the Worship Center. JMHO any of this area is the SW corner of the building as in SW where MB entered/parked her truck, SE Rear, NW parking lot on metal door area, NE Rear There are photos of her in front of those Worship Center doors next to the Holy Ground View attachment 105388 The accordian doors are Holy Ground coffee station. You can see the silver trash can which is in the photo with MB class View attachment 105389.

JMHO the Worship Center doors were locked. *if not why did they have locks? Worship Center doors from Creekside Dads Day video ss View attachment 105390

 

[arkansasmimi]

There are several key things that MPD knows (and few others) and the killer know:

(1) What Missy saw when she walked into that church. Were the doors to the rooms that were left open by SP still like that.
(2) Which direction did Missy go upon entering the church. Did she continue north up the West hall or did she turn east down the South hall or west toward the bathrooms.
(3) Where exactly was Missy killed in the church.
(4) How exactly was she killed, the exact cause of death.
(5) What time exactly was SP first seen in the church and where was that.
(6) What time exactly was SP last seen in the church and where was that.
(7) They stated in search warrant affidavits that there was glass around the body. Was there glass found under her body.
(8) Did Missy have any defensive wounds at all.
(9) Nothing was reported missing from the church. Was there anything that was missing from Missy's truck.
(10) According to MPD Missy was last seen entering the church carrying stuff. Was what she was carrying found where she was killed.
(11) Was Missy's iPhone found on her person. It wasn't in the truck for sure.
(12) Did Missy have a purse/wallet with her. None was in the truck.
(13) Did SP leave any item(s) at the scene other than the tools observed in the video.
(14) What was the position of Missy's body. Did any of those that found Missy move her body in any way.
(15) Did Missy have any tattoos in private places that were exposed or marred/obliterated.
(16) Who was the last person to contact Missy, prior to her death, by phone call or message (regardless if answered).
(17) Who was the last person that Missy called or messaged prior to her death (regardless if answered).

RBBM, #9 unsure if anything missing & #12 true it is unknown what MB had with her, but Per the Ford F150 SW, there was a purse in her truck. Along with a list of what was found in her truck. JMHO


Detectives also have Bevers' purse, iPad and other personal items and electronics found in her truck that could hold clues. http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/family-to-missy-bevers-killer-you-will-pay-for-what-you-did/148031944

 

[dogmatica]

Are law enforcement obligated to tell the truth to the public regarding things like alibis, whether someone is cleared etc, legally? Or can they lie to the public, like they can to suspects, when interrogating them?

 

[Mainely16]

If that car had anything to do with Missy's case, IMO the plates were phony. No way the perp/s would have gone to all of that planning just to leave their tags in direct view of a surveillance camera or any possible witness.

As someone mentioned, those cams were incredibly powerful. One guy was counting his money inside of his car and you could pretty much read the denomination of the bills.

 

[ezrah]

If that car had anything to do with Missy's case, IMO the plates were phony. No way the perp/s would have gone to all of that planning just to leave their tags in direct view of a surveillance camera or any possible witness.

As someone mentioned, those cams were incredibly powerful. One guy was counting his money inside of his car and you could pretty much read the denomination of the bills.

I agree! Car tags are easily changed out and also could have been altered in some way. Both would mean that whatever car tag might have been on the Altima didn't match the vehicle. To my eyes it is obvious that PD intentionally released the Altima pic with the tag area unreadable. JMHOO


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[Cannonball3804]

RBBM, #9 unsure if anything missing & #12 true it is unknown what MB had with her, but Per the Ford F150 SW, there was a purse in her truck. Along with a list of what was found in her truck. JMHO

Regarding MB's truck, that would sure be risky for the perp to, after committing a violent murder, brazenly go outside and rummage thru her truck. There is the risk of being spotted. Also the risk of transferring DNA to the vehicle. The iPad was still there, and you would think the perp would not be able to resist taking that. I just can't see him going to the truck.


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