TX - Terri 'Missy' Bevers, 45, murdered in church/suspect in SWAT gear, 18 Apr 2016 #36

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http://www.ballingerledger.com/news...xhachie-to-honor-fallen-trainer-and-volunteer

“She was a big supporter of kids, especially at the Boys and Girls Club as a volunteer while a trainer at Camp Gladiator. She had a love for the kids and wanted each of them to be a success,” volunteer Missy Phillips said.

How did MB manage these many jobs I wonder?
Probably with a bit of difficulty and self-induced stress. In my opinion (I can be wrong) it seems obvious that she was doing everything possible to avoid being around BB alone or the whole family unit - her, BB, and the kids (her and the kids was no problem) - for years. She made herself busy and out and about from as early as 3:30 in the morning until 9:00 at night. That photo of MB and BB out (was it Valentine's day?) speaks volumes.

That, for me, is why I have been discounting that there was an "open marriage" in play. Because if she were always out and about anywhere and everywhere all day long it provides the opportunity to work in an affair. And, all that avoidance also makes it easier to carry on an affair because for a woman that is a monogamist (I believe she was) they have to not put themselves in a position where they are having sex with two different men since they can only "love" one man at a time in that way. My take, unless anything comes out to change it, is that if talk of an "open marriage" was brought up at all it came from MB after she was already in an on-going affair but before being caught. If it comes out of the blue, or if it comes up as a solution ahead of other marriage saving ideas especially in the presence of a lack of communication, it is a red flag.

Like, I said. I could be wrong.
 
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Sorry to be so emphatic Wannabedetective. I just don't think there's anything we can presume or assume here.

They kept saying the driver of the Altima was not a suspect but someone they wanted to speak to hoping the driver had seen something that night.

And why they even made a suggestion about the car (make unk as well as inability to see the plates)
behind the church is unknown to me unless of course, police were indicating that a car had been parked around the back during the murder.

I hadn't given this a lot of thought before because they really glossed over it. But....in hindsight, it is important because it may indicate SP had a car.

Who knows? But I do think it worthwhile to file it in the very interesting category but unknown
if related to Altima, or SP. (For now).



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The key thing about the Altima that struck me is that MPD specifically said they wanted to speak to the driver of that car. If, as many people believe, MPD did have the plate then they know who owns and registered the vehicle. That individual may or may not be the driver. Even later on, when asked about whatever happened with the Altima on the MPD facebook page MPD responded that the driver had not contacted them. They seemed to want to have the Altima out there and I think they were being very specific about using the term driver rather than owner (which I believe they know). It has always seemed like a message to me and I am certain that starting with the press conference on the Friday after MB was murdered that there were specific things that they said that were messages aimed at SP - even if they didn't know who it was yet.

One thing I have considered about the Altima and it being a message is that it has nothing to do with the Altima per se. In that, MPD was demonstrating that they have camera footage from SWFA that is high quality even in the dark and rain conditions or that MPD believes at one time or another - not necessarily the same night that a vehicle associated with SP was in that parking lot.

The other thing I have considered is that if they have a specific person in mind MPD might know that at one time or another that this person owns or owned an Altima (regardless of color or model year) or has a sibling, in-law, or parent that did.

For me, I can't shake the notion that the Altima is a specific message aimed at SP. That said, if it was a message it doesn't appear to have had the desired outcome.

I don't think that MPD is going to stay silent on this case until an arrest. I believe that at some point they will release something that is again a message to SP. I am sure they would prefer not to do so but I think it is inevitable. If I had to hazard a guess I think it will be the actual cause of death and what was used to do that.
 
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Probably with a bit of difficulty and self-induced stress. In my opinion (I can be wrong) it seems obvious that she was doing everything possible to avoid being around BB alone or the whole family unit - her, BB, and the kids (her and the kids was no problem) - for years. She made herself busy and out and about from as early as 3:30 in the morning until 9:00 at night. That photo of MB and BB out (was it Valentine's day?) speaks volumes.

That, for me, is why I have been discounting that there was an "open marriage" in play. Because if she were always out and about anywhere and everywhere all day long it provides the opportunity to work in an affair. And, all that avoidance also makes it easier to carry on an affair because for a woman that is a monogamist (I believe she was) they have to not put themselves in a position where they are having sex with two different men since they can only "love" one man at a time in that way. My take, unless anything comes out to change it, is that if talk of an "open marriage" was brought up at all it came from MB after she was already in an on-going affair but before being caught. If it comes out of the blue, or if it comes up as a solution ahead of other marriage saving ideas especially in the presence of a lack of communication, it is a red flag.

Like, I said. I could be wrong.

What about the Valentine’s photo speaks volumes to you?
I am not trying to be “unfriendly” to the victim (rules state it’s a victim-friendly site), however, from what we have learned it seems MB had at least a couple of flirtations or extra-marital relationships going on simultaneously (or at least very close together), so not sure about the monogamist thing that you mention. Not judging at all – just my thoughts based on info released. Per LE, we know she was talking to CW in January (not sure if they ever met or for how long they communicated), and we know that there are rumors that she was flirting (or more) with AT around the time of her murder, and then the SW affidavit states that BB alleged she was having an affair with KC (I presume he meant at the time of the murder as well). I don’t know if any of it is true or how far any of it went. My point is, if any of it is true (or was perceived to be true by those affected), there are at least a few people who could have been jealous or angry to the point of wanting revenge. And that even if MB and BB didn't have an "open marriage," there was some acceptance of the situation. Again, not judging at all – just my thoughts based on info released. JMO.
 
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Sorry to be so emphatic Wannabedetective. I just don't think there's anything we can presume or assume here.


They kept saying the driver of the Altima was not a suspect but someone they wanted to speak to hoping the driver had seen something that night.

And why they even made a suggestion about the car (make unk as well as inability to see the plates)
behind the church is unknown to me unless of course, police were indicating that a car had been parked around the back during the murder.

I hadn't given this a lot of thought before because they really glossed over it. But....in hindsight, it is important because it may indicate SP had a car.

Who knows? But I do think it worthwhile to file it in the very interesting category but unknown
if related to Altima, or SP. (For now).



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You're good.

I remember back in April seeing a still photo (looked like a frame from a video) of a part of a car through a window. It was notated that this shot was from an interior church camera that inadvertently was partially aimed outside and caught a vehicle in the parking lot outside. And you were left to assume the car held some significance but was difficult to identify because you could only see a little bit of it. IIRC, from what you could see, it was silvery/white and kind of plain (no distinguishing features – a 5 year old Altima would fit that description.)

But at 4 am it probably would be pretty dark to capture much outside.

Does anyone elseremember that? (don’ have 6 hours tolook thru volumes of pages for it).


It kind of went away but it crossed my mind that this mightbe one of those evidentiary items that LE could be stashing.
 
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What about the Valentine’s photo speaks volumes to you?
I am not trying to be “unfriendly” to the victim (rules state it’s a victim-friendly site), however, from what we have learned it seems MB had at least a couple of flirtations or extra-marital relationships going on simultaneously (or at least very close together), so not sure about the monogamist thing that you mention. Not judging at all – just my thoughts based on info released. Per LE, we know she was talking to CW in January (not sure if they ever met or for how long they communicated), and we know that there are rumors that she was flirting (or more) with AT around the time of her murder, and then the SW affidavit states that BB alleged she was having an affair with KC (I presume he meant at the time of the murder as well). I don’t know if any of it is true or how far any of it went. My point is, if any of it is true (or was perceived to be true by those affected), there are at least a few people who could have been jealous or angry to the point of wanting revenge. And that even if MB and BB didn't have an "open marriage," there was some acceptance of the situation. Again, not judging at all – just my thoughts based on info released. JMO.
One thing we don't know is if they were simultaneous. We have heard from KS that there was a prior infidelity from 15 months prior to either KS talking about it or MB's murder (not clear to me). We also know from the SW affidavit that the contact with CW was from January right up until her death. I have been wavering in my thinking on whether or not BB was aware of the CW communications prior to her death or did he learn of it after from someone or getting into her account (after all some MB posts were removed or hidden in the aftermath of her death). That he brought it to their attention seems to me that it could have occurred early as in the day of the murder but also could have been on the Tuesday where he spent several hours talking with MPD. Either way, with her iPhone and iPad in their possession the CW discovery was likely already known to MPD by that Tuesday and very possibly before BB spoke about it.

The one thing I will note about this is that in releasing the search warrants that they did MPD very definitely hung CW out to dry while leaving KC hidden in the shadows. That may or may not have any significance at this point in time but suggests to me it very well did at the time.
 
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What about the Valentine’s photo speaks volumes to you?
I am not trying to be “unfriendly” to the victim (rules state it’s a victim-friendly site), however, from what we have learned it seems MB had at least a couple of flirtations or extra-marital relationships going on simultaneously (or at least very close together), so not sure about the monogamist thing that you mention. Not judging at all – just my thoughts based on info released. Per LE, we know she was talking to CW in January (not sure if they ever met or for how long they communicated), and we know that there are rumors that she was flirting (or more) with AT around the time of her murder, and then the SW affidavit states that BB alleged she was having an affair with KC (I presume he meant at the time of the murder as well). I don’t know if any of it is true or how far any of it went. My point is, if any of it is true (or was perceived to be true by those affected), there are at least a few people who could have been jealous or angry to the point of wanting revenge. And that even if MB and BB didn't have an "open marriage," there was some acceptance of the situation. Again, not judging at all – just my thoughts based on info released. JMO.
About the Valentine's day photo what I see is distance between them on both of their faces.
 
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http://www.ballingerledger.com/news...xhachie-to-honor-fallen-trainer-and-volunteer

“She was a big supporter of kids, especially at the Boys and Girls Club as a volunteer while a trainer at Camp Gladiator. She had a love for the kids and wanted each of them to be a success,” volunteer Missy Phillips said.

How did MB manage these many jobs I wonder?
I am speculating but she basically seemed like a very high energy person but.....that patch she wore (that was sold as a product through the Gladiators) may have been an energy boost to a person who had high energy anyway. (I could use one of those.) I only read a few of her posts but the ones that stood out for me was after she returned home from Austin. It seemed like a stream of continuous posts about baseball and how she and the girls were going to fix up a healthy lunch.

It sounds a bit like me when I've had a bunch of coffee or a Bufferin (or an Excedrin.) Not that I'm saying anything's wrong with that but boy did those posts make me tired.

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I do have the pictures. Not sure, if the video is still available. I'll check.

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http://www.today.com/video/missy-be...structor-in-texas-church-a-woman-669813315633

-Nin
 
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You're good.

I remember back in April seeing a still photo (looked like a frame from a video) of a part of a car through a window. It was notated that this shot was from an interior church camera that inadvertently was partially aimed outside and caught a vehicle in the parking lot outside. And you were left to assume the car held some significance but was difficult to identify because you could only see a little bit of it. IIRC, from what you could see, it was silvery/white and kind of plain (no distinguishing features – a 5 year old Altima would fit that description.)

But at 4 am it probably would be pretty dark to capture much outside.

Does anyone elseremember that? (don’ have 6 hours tolook thru volumes of pages for it).


It kind of went away but it crossed my mind that this mightbe one of those evidentiary items that LE could be stashing.
Is this what you are talking about?

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I remember back in April seeing a still photo (looked like a frame from a video) of a part of a car through a window. It was notated that this shot was from an interior church camera that inadvertently was partially aimed outside and caught a vehicle in the parking lot outside.

We had that (speculative) discussion here. But I don't think there was any video seen here that showed that, nor any real confirmation of exactly what LE had seen, nor from what camera shot. You may be recalling the discussion, but it was based on LE's mention, not on something we actually saw ourselves.
 
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JMO KC twitter is closed, but way back when it was open and public, beginning in late summer, early fall of 2015, his tweet subject changed from workout banter to appreciation of his marriage and indicated a mutual effort to renew and nurture it. The impression I got (having learned of the possible affair w MB)was that the affair was over by then. When KS subsequently said that she knew of an affair from a year or so ago, I figured that maybe that was what she was talking about.....so by the time MB was murdered, that affair was in the rear view mirror. MB and MC, somehow apparently remained friends. We don't hear about CW until Jan 2016. JMO
 
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JMO KC twitter is closed, but way back when it was open and public, beginning in late summer, early fall of 2015, his tweet subject changed from workout banter to appreciation of his marriage and indicated a mutual effort to renew and nurture it. The impression I got (having learned of the possible affair w MB)was that the affair was over by then. When KS subsequently said that she knew of an affair from a year or so ago, I figured that maybe that was what she was talking about.....so by the time MB was murdered, that affair was in the rear view mirror. MB and MC, somehow apparently remained friends. We don't hear about CW until Jan 2016. JMO

I think that's a very fair analysis, and truths often ignored in a zeal to assume the worst of the victim and/or the family. What looks bad on the surface from the bleacher seats might have actually been far more benign than we realize from where we sit.
 
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Thanks Nin.

Well, what do you all think? It's not exactly how I remembered it. And it is not straight on. There appears to be a small sign on the wall they walk in front of. Is it a reflection from something outside? Can anyone read it?

Video doesn't load for me at all. I get the page, but no video comes up, just an eternal attempt at a connection to it. But if it is the video I am thinking of, we saw it here before. And when we did, at first we thought a left turn, but on further study as we examined/charted/explained using sight lines based on foreground landmarks, it was fairly obvious they were seen going into or down the main hallway rather than "turning left."
 
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Not that it matters that much, but her other products she sold weren't part of CG. Trainer's aren't allowed to promote a specific brand or supplement. If asked what they use, they can say "I use thrive, advocare, etc.." I don't think the businesses she's involved in played a role in her murder. CG trainers are all supportive of each other and go to each other's camps. The products are all multi-level marketing, so I'd imagine you want more and more people involved and it's natural for her to be friendly and outspoken considering her chosen professions. JMO
 
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Thanks Nin.

Well, what do you all think? It's not exactly how I remembered it. And it is not straight on. There appears to be a small sign on the wall they walk in front of. Is it a reflection from something outside? Can anyone read it?



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You are wc, Razz. This is the only video I have seen so far showing showing those gentlemen entering the Porte Cochere doors. However, since you were mentioning the reporter, you may have this video in mind, which shows a reporter in front of the PC doors at night. No MPD personnel entering the church at this time. But it nicely shows the bulletin board and the cross hanging on the wall, as well as the wheelchair in the vestibule area:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/woman-found-dead-inside-midlothian-church/140954492

-Nin
 
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You are wc, Razz. This is the only video I have seen so far showing showing those gentlemen entering the Porte Cochere doors. However, since you were mentioning the reporter, you may have this video in mind, which shows a reporter in front of the PC doors at night. No MPD personnel entering the church at this time. But it nicely shows the bulletin board and the cross hanging on the wall, as well as the wheelchair in the vestibule area:

http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/woman-found-dead-inside-midlothian-church/140954492

-Nin
Hmmmm.....wc? Wholly confused?
That's how I am at the moment.

I don't remember everyone talking about it. SteveS said it was determined that the EMT's headed
down the main hallway and did not turn left. I have no reason to doubt his story, but that really messes with my hypothesis.

So, what is the reigning theory if they didn't turn left?
How is it that after she went where SP was, neither were seen on camera again.

I'm aware that Arkansasmimi thinks the broken glass is from the table in the main hallway but how can that be without the cameras recording it?

Help!

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About the Valentine's day photo what I see is distance between them on both of their faces.[/QUOTE

where is this pic? I don't recalll seeing it anyway. TIA
 
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