TX - Truck/van crash with 9 fatalities, Andrews, Mar 2022

[LostOldUserName]

This is incredibly sad on all parts.

 

[BrownRice]

I think they may want to investigate that fire a little further. Are they sure it wasn't arson, set by the kid?

Fire at home of dad and son, 13, was sparked by 'cooking meth'


Fire at home of career criminal dad and son, 13, was sparked by 'occupant cooking meth' | Daily Mail Online

 

[BrownRice]

Duplicate

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Fire at home of dad and son, 13, was sparked by 'cooking meth'


Fire at home of career criminal dad and son, 13, was sparked by 'occupant cooking meth' | Daily Mail Online

OFGS!

 

[BrownRice]

OFGS!

Ya, keeps getting sadder.

 

[airportwoman]

Okay, the Daily Mail is basically a tabloid, but none of this surprises me. I wonder what kind of a trainwreck Agatha and the other 4 children have been as well.

 

[doublestop]

Is there some reason the news articles all mention the family's religion? I can't imagine seeing an article that says "the father, a Baptist" or "the boy, a Methodist." Why do they keep saying they are Mennonite?

 

[303gmf]

Is there some reason the news articles all mention the family's religion? I can't imagine seeing an article that says "the father, a Baptist" or "the boy, a Methodist." Why do they keep saying they are Mennonite?

Mennonite’s & meth? Wow
There has to be more to this story

 

[MimosaMornings]

Fire at home of dad and son, 13, was sparked by 'cooking meth'


Fire at home of career criminal dad and son, 13, was sparked by 'occupant cooking meth' | Daily Mail Online

And no one contacted DFPS?

 

[airportwoman]

Is there some reason the news articles all mention the family's religion? I can't imagine seeing an article that says "the father, a Baptist" or "the boy, a Methodist." Why do they keep saying they are Mennonite?

The parents both have definitely German names, and as for them potentially being Mennonite, I used to live in an area with a sizable Amish population, and they aren't as different from "us" as many people would think.

 

[Coppertop15]

Those are "Mennonite names" for sure, but I can absolutely assure you (but not swear, because we don't do that) that we are not into meth casseroles at the potluck.

 

[Coppertop15]

That poor kid.

 

[Laughing]

Is there some reason the news articles all mention the family's religion? I can't imagine seeing an article that says "the father, a Baptist" or "the boy, a Methodist." Why do they keep saying they are Mennonite?

Possibly because of the shock factor, possibly because The University of the Southwest is a Christian school with Baptist roots.

Agree that this just keeps getting worse!

jmho ymmv lrr

 

[IceIce9]

A tire blew out and the driver lost control. This would have been the same tragedy regardless of who was driving. Let's wait for all the facts before passing out blame. MO

A 13 year old should not have been allowed to drive, period.

 

[IceIce9]

Is there some reason the news articles all mention the family's religion? I can't imagine seeing an article that says "the father, a Baptist" or "the boy, a Methodist." Why do they keep saying they are Mennonite?

This article states the family belonged to the Baptist church:

Fehr, who knew Henrich growing up, noted that his church will host the father and son's funeral, although they were members of South Seminole Baptist Church. South Seminoles' Pastor Richard "Buck" Wheat will officiate the memorial.

Family of 13-Year-Old Driver in Fatal Texas Car Crash 'Lost Everything' in House Fire Months Before

 

[IceIce9]

From the article


In Texas, a minor can begin the classroom part of a driver education course at 14 but must be at least 15 to apply for a learner license, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) website.

It's unclear why the minor was driving on Tuesday night. Authorities have not disclosed his relationship to the other occupant, identified as Henrich Siemens, 38, of Seminole, Texas.

What we know about Texas crash involving a 13-year-old driver that killed nine

 

[IceIce9]

Those are "Mennonite names" for sure, but I can absolutely assure you (but not swear, because we don't do that) that we are not into meth casseroles at the potluck.

I live in an area where there are many Mennonites and Amish, and while their background (and names) are Amish or Mennonite they aren’t necessarily practicing their religion. In some cases they are a couple of generations removed from active religion but still have the names.

I work occasionally with an “Amish” fire department, and while they all have an Amish background many have actually joined other churches and the non-Amish lifestyle. The Amish firefighters are easily identified as they wear clothing with hooks instead of buttons or zippers, they ride bikes to work instead of drive, etc.

Not saying this is the case here but it could be the family has Mennonite roots but aren’t actively members of the religion.

 

[kaen]

I imagine that at the outset of this story, the designation "Mennonite" was based on local or family information. But, Mennonites have different denominations. Linda Stolzfoos was killed by a man who grew up in a Mennonite tradition but not a conservative one.

It is time to stop referring to this father as a Mennonite because his religion does not factor into his actions ---his last one or the many before. He was an accused domestic abuser and had a long history with being on the wrong side of the law. (IMHO)

The 13 year old is a victim of this man's actions, not unlike those college students and their coach. To have a kid driving at a high rate of speed on a spare that should not be used at that speed is criminally negligent. I am not sure whether this man was still in their home or not after the DV charges but if he was all of the children in that home need to be assessed for help and possible state oversight.

I am heartbroken for the families of the students/coach and for the family of this 13 year old. This was potentially avoidable for all involved. As we get more and more of a picture of this man and his actions, I am sure our hearts will continue to break.

 

[nao]

Moo...the aricles say " the 13 year old was "allowed" to drive" i think moo... The 13 year old was daddy dearest personal chauffeur..(dad had bad driving record)..... Moo

 

[dotr]

Families of Ontario students who survived fatal Texas crash release statements | CP24.com

(L-R) Dayton Price, Hayden Underhill
''The Price family said they are grateful for those who arrived first to the scene and cared for the boys.

“We are eternally grateful and wish to thank all the first responders and those who arrived on scene to assist in ensuring Dayton and Hayden were well cared for,” they said.

They also thanked their community. “We are inspired and uplifted by the generosity and outpouring of support from our family, our friends, friends of friends, the USW family and the people of West Texas," the statement read.

On Thursday, the Underhill family issued their own statement, stating that “Hayden continues to make progress.”

“We are grateful to the many people who have expressed their best wishes towards him and our family, and have aided us in some way,” the statement read.

“We are also thinking of Dayton and the Price family as he begins his own recovery.”

The Underhills said they're remaining focused on their son at this time and are asking the public for privacy.

The Price family said their thoughts and prayers are with the Underhill family.''