GUILTY TX - Zuzu Verk, 22, Alpine, 12 Oct 2016 #3 *Arrests*

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@Gardener1850 - thank you for that. I can't access the article over here (EU dumb rules) - and noticed it says in the headline "Police Officer takes stand".

But you didn't mention any police officer.... do you have a name? Sorry to keep bothering you, but just want to keep my notes straight! TIA!
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I also thank so much to @Gardener1850 since I am also in EU (under dumb rules...)
 
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Video Reporter Summary of Day 1:
 
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I also thank so much to @Gardener1850 since I am also in EU (under dumb rules...)

@Niner

I have to be away from the internet for much of today but I will update later tonight if no one else does. So frustrating that only one station seems to be covering this trial in detail. I'm also several time zones away from Texas, which is affecting my ability to update in real time.
 
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@Gardener1850 - hey no problem - real life calls! :D

I probably won't be looking here until I want to update my notes for tomorrow's posting! :)
 
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It's physiologically impossible for someone to hyperventilate to death due to an emotional response in the way he's describing. Even if they hyperventilate to the point they become dangerously hypoxic, people don't just drop straight dead. They become unconscious and then start breathing more deeply and regularly as the autonomic nervous system takes over.

It's possible for someone to suffer a cardiac event and die pretty suddenly as a result of intense fear or emotion, but by all accounts Zuzu was healthy and active, frequently hiking in pretty challenging high desert terrain. There's nothing to suggest she may have had something like an undiagnosed underlying heart condition, which would be rare in the first place.

It's almost certain he strangled her and this is the lie they're using to make it all seem like an accident.
 
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Day 3
Chris Estrada

Chris Estrada has taken the stand in Robert Fabian’s trial Thursday in Caldwell County, delivering key pieces of information to the court.
Estrada started by describing his relationship with Fabian, saying they had known each other from high school and spoke frequently, via text, phone calls and social media.
He told the court that Fabian would often comment about Zuzu saying he “loved her” and cared for her.
Furthermore, Estrada recalled Fabian being supportive of her decision to go to Texas A&M but noted he struggled with it at times.
Then, Estrada then turned to Oct. 12, the same day Zuzu disappeared.
Estrada says he received a call at about 3:15 a.m. in the morning from Fabian. He went on to say that he responded later with a Snapchat message to Fabian, asking what he needed.
Later that day, Estrada remembers going to Alpine to hangout with Fabian and picked him up at his sisters house, according to the testimony.
From there, the pair went to dinner and Estrada says Fabian asked to go to Dollar General.
Estrada then says Fabian asked to borrow his credit card, as he had forgotten his.
He handed over the card and Fabian went into the store and returned to Fabian’s apartment afterwards, Estrada told the court.
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Back at the apartment, Estrada claims Fabian wanted to talk with him about something and said it was a “life and death matter.”
Fabian told Estrada that the dinner went well but things got physical between he and Zuzu, according to Estrada’s testimony.
Fabian went on to tell Estrada that he had his hands around Zuzu’s throat when she started to hyperventilate and stopped breathing, Estrada said Thursday.
Fabian then tried to conduct CPR but was unsuccessful, Estrada told the court. Estrada went on to say that Fabian told him she had died and was still under the covers in his bedroom.
At that point, Fabian asked Estrada to help him get the body out of his apartment, according to the testimony. Estrada said he became worried and left, ending up at a friend’s home.
Estrada said after visiting a friend, he went home and fell asleep.
He goes on to describe what happened after Fabian allegedly made a confession to him.
Estrada told the court Fabian asked him a second time to help move Zuzu’s body and told Estrada he, “just wanted to get her out.”
He claims that Fabian also asked Estrada not to turn him in to authorities.
Estrada told the court that he declined to help Fabian move Zuzu’s body but also reassured him that he would not turn Fabian in.
When asked by prosecutors why he didn’t turn Fabian in, Estrada said, “It was a difficult decision but at the time, that is what I choose. Today, it would be different.”
The defense then began to question Estrada pointing out key things about his testimony.
The defense pointed out that Estrada frequently used the term “we” while speaking and noted that Estrada admitted to drinking the night of Fabian’s alleged confession.

Day 3: Estrada arrives in Caldwell County, more testimony expected
 
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More testimony from Day 3:

Amy Lenpher

Next was Amy Lenpher, an employee of Dollar General.

Lenpher confirmed to the court that the store had cameras and they also have electronic cash registers that show the purchase, the card, the time and the date of the purchase.

A video was then shown to the court.

In the video, Fabian can be seen entering the store at 10:09 p.m. He then walks to the counter, purchases some items and leaves around 10:13 p.m.

A receipt of the purchase was then shown to the court, which confirmed that Fabian had purchased drop cloths.


Cpt. Darryl Losoya (continued)

On Thursday, Officer Losoya was first to the stand to continue his testimony in the case.

The court returned to a video interview with Fabian.

Losoya said, Fabian described in more detail the date with Zuzu and what took place afterwards.

Fabian begins by describing what Zuzu was wearing the night she disappeared and re-emphasized what the date consisted of; a dinner, champagne among other things.

He then tells the police she became upset about comments regarding an old girlfriend and he claimed to have walked her out of the apartment between 2 and 3 a.m.

Officers then had Fabian point out where Zuzu parked the night of the date.

From there a second interview with Fabian was shown to the court.

In the second interview, Fabian details what happened after Zuzu left his apartment. In the interview, Fabian said he was frustrated with Zuzu after she deleted a Snapchat and watched a movie before going to bed.

Fabian claims he woke up around 8 a.m. the next morning and texted Zuzu before falling back asleep.

Eventually, Fabian said he went to work but was late and arrived around 11 a.m.

“We were just trying to make it work,” Fabian said in the second interview.

The prosecutors again point out Fabian’s use of past tense.

In the interview, investigators then asked Fabian about problems with an acquaintance, the same acquaintance Miles Verk is accused of fighting with.

Fabian went on to discuss Zuzu’s routine and why he cleaned the apartment after she left.

He claims the argument never became physical and also told investigators during the interview that he hadn’t searched for Zuzu because he was “trying to give her space.”

Police then start to point out discrepancies in Fabian’s interviews.

Fabian recanted part of his previous statement and said he went out for a drive after the argument. When he came back, Verk was still there and left some time after, according to the recorded interview.

“I had nothing to do with her disappearance,” Fabian can be heard saying in the interview.

Barr, the prosecutor, then points out that Fabian told police he would only help if, “there is nothing to incriminate him on.”

In the interview, police ask again if Fabian had anything to do with the disappearance saying, “I think you are leaving some stuff out.”

Fabian was not arrested following the second interview but police did search hisapartment. In the dryer, investigators found a mattress pad, bleach and clothes. The clothes and mattress pad were then presented to the court, all of which had visible bleach stains.

Losoya then told the court there was, “no doubt the clothes belonged to Fabian.”

The defense then interjected saying Losoya was also using past tense with Fabian and asked if he’d ever framed questions to get a conviction. Losoya said he had not framed the questions.

The defense team points to other cleaning supplies found in Fabian’s apartment, which were never collected as evidence in the case. Furthermore, they also noted that the items were only tested once and came back negative.

They also claim police never fingerprinted the bleach in Fabian’s home and notes a pair of latex gloves that were too small for Fabian saying they may have been from a woman who lived in the apartment before Fabian.

In driving home their point from the first day of the trail, the defense reiterates that Fabian’s finger prints have not been found on anything incriminating and nothing existed, which connected him to Zuzu’s death.

The defense then turns to other possible suspects, most notably the acquaintance that appears in various witness testimony.

However, the prosecutors countered saying Fabian had been caught in a lie about his actions during the evening with Zuzu and said the acquaintance had already been cleared by law enforcement.

Also, the prosecutor noted the acquaintance joined the search parties after Zuzu went, missing. Fabian never did.

Barr then says that no finger prints had been found because everything had been cleaned.

Day 3: Estrada arrives in Caldwell County, more testimony expected
 
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Friday, May 3rd:
*Trial continues (Day 4) (@ 9am CT) - TX - Zuzu Verk (21) (missing Oct. 12, 2016, Alpine; found Feb. 3, 2017) – only for *Robert Fabian (26) indicted (2/6/27) with 1st degree murder & tampering with evidence with or fabricating physical evidence by concealing a human corpse. Plead not guilty. Held on $925K bond.
Trial started 4/29/19. Moved from Brewster County to Caldwell County.
4/29/19 Jury Selection Day 1: Expected to last one day with opening statements starting on Tuesday, 4/30.
4/30/19 Day 1: Opening statements. State witnesses: Lori Verk (Zuzu’s mom). Andre’ana Doggett (Zuzu's best friend). Meredith Schock (Zuzu's neighbor). John Franco (Fabian's downstairs neighbor). Oumy Ndiaye. Sgt. Aaron Villanueva, LE officer who investigated Zuzu's disappearance. Trial continues on 5/1.
5/1/19 Day 2: State witnesses: John Franco (neighbor of Fabian). Miles Verk (Zuzu's brother). Josh Cobos (friend of Fabian). James Carillo (Fabian's BIL). Brewster County Sheriff Ronny Dodson (lead search for Zuzu). Sgt. Kirk Hoffman, Alpine PD (collected evidence). Cpt. Darryl Losyoa, Alpine PD (interviewed Fabian). After Losoya took the stand, the court turned to a video recorded interview with Fabian. Trial continues on 5/2.
5/2/19 Day 3: State witnesses: Captain Darryl Losyoa, returned to video of interview & showed 2nd interview. Chris Estrada. Amy Lenpher, an employee of Dollar General. Trial continues on 5/3.
*Chris Estrada (28) 2 counts of tampering with physical evidence/corpse & tampering with evidence; trial date was supposed to be May 21, 2018. 4/20/18 pled guilty (no contest) to plea deal to 2 counts of tampering with physical evidence/corpse & tampering with evidence. Will be sentenced after Fabian trial.
 
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More Day 3 Witnesses:

Pamela Miller

Following Estrada, was Pamela Miller, a former Brewster County resident who lived in the area where Zuzu’s remains were eventually found.

Miller told the court Thursday that she had previously lived on Wagon Road in Brewster County. She went on to say that early Thursday morning, the day after Fabian and Zuzu had a dinner date at his apartment, she noticed a dark colored vehicle with round headlights driving at a high rate of speed in the area.

She said a few minutes later, the vehicle drove away at a high rate of speed, noting it “could have been a Jeep.”

At the time, Miller said she had no reason to contact authorities but said it did match the description of a vehicle police were searching for in the investigation and later called police.

Prosecutors then showed pictures of Fabian’s Jeep and Miller told the court it looked like the vehicle she spotted that morning, but was not certain it was his Jeep.

The defense then noted that the vehicle was only in the area for a short amount of time.

Brittney Gasca

Brittney Gasca was next on the stand. She was a friend of Estrada’s and recalled the night he went to see her.

Gasca told the court she had seen Estrada the night after Fabian’s dinner date with Zuzu and after Estrada had met up with Fabian.

While with Estrada, Gasca said she recalled his strange behavior and said Estrada “looked like he had seen a ghost,” and “just didn’t look himself.”

Gasca told the court she continuously asked Estrada what was wrong, to which he replied, “just don’t ask me questions.”

Together, Estrada and Gasca watched a movie and she testified that he left her house between 2 a.m. and 2:30 a.m.

However, Gasca told the court that after Estrada left, he sent her a Snapchat of an open pasture and said she did not know Estrada had been with Fabian that night.

About five days later is when Gasca said she heard Zuzu was missing.

After hearing the news, Gasca said she was with Josh Cobos and they discussed Zuzu’s disappearance and Estrada’s visit to her home, according to the testimony.

After speaking with Cobos, they both decided to speak with police.

Dianne Moore

Following the testimony from Gasca, the narrative was back to Fabian as Dianne Moore, the former CEO and CFO of Big Bend Regional Medical Center was called to the stand.

Moore said she worked with Fabian and called him “very plesant” and “outgoing.”

That was until Zuzu had disappeared.

Following the disappearance, Moore said Fabian was “not the same guy” he once was at the hospital.

He was eventually suspended along with his sister who also worked at the hospital, Moore said Thursday.

Yolanda Jurado

Like Moore, Jurado was also a part of the BBRMC management staff and said she had come to know Fabian.

Jurado told the court she never spoke to Fabian about Zuzu but did ask at one point what was wrong, to which Fabian said he had broken up with his girlfriend.

However, Jurado said Fabian was friendly with his co-workers, until Zuzu disappeared.

Afterwards, Jurado said he was “withdrawn” and that he wouldn’t address anyone.

She also told the court that she was supportive after hearing Zuzu had gone missing and told him to “have faith.”

Jurado later recalled Fabian talking about watching a press conference to see if they had found and “body parts.”

The defense then asked if Jurado reported what she knew to police and said told the court she did.

The court has since dismissed for the day and will resume Friday morning.

Day 3: Estrada arrives in Caldwell County, more testimony expected
 
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Thanks a bunch (again!!) for all the info Gardener! :)
 
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FABIAN TRIAL DAY 4: Prosecutors share call and text records

LOCKHART, Tx. (KOSA) -- The trial of a Robert Fabian, who is accused of killing Sul Ross University student Zuzu Verk, has entered its fourth day.
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1 p.m. Update: New evidence has been shared by prosecutors on Friday.

Prosecutors spent part of Friday presenting call and text records of Robert Fabian.

Zuzu Verk's last outgoing text was made at 10:12 p.m. on Tuesday, October 12.

Hours later Fabian called Chris Estrada at 3:14 a.m. and 3:15 a.m.

Records show that Fabian contacted Verk's phone several times on Wednesday and Thursday.

Early Friday morning between 3:01 a.m. and 4:28 a.m. Fabian received several calls from his sister who he had been staying with since Wednesday. Prosecutors say that he never answered any of her calls.

Prosecutors then moved on to describe the relationship between Fabian and Verk. saying that Fabian was described as being "possessive" and "self-serving" in interviews.

Evidence was then shown of plastic found at Verk's gravesite looking to be consistent in appearance as white drop cloth sold at Dollar General.
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FABIAN TRIAL DAY 4: Prosecutors share call and text records
 
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Day 4

Jared Maynard

First to the stand Friday morning was Alpine Border Patrol Agent Jared Maynard.

Maynard was the agent who located Zuzu’s remains and discusses what he found at the scene.

The agents says they were putting out sensors in the area on February 3, 2017. At some point, Maynard says he came across a depression dug in the ground and noticed a piece of plastic, a blue sock and black fabric.

Maynard says the depression was about three to four feet wide and two to two and a half feet deep, according to the testimony.

Sheriff’s Dodson and Alpine Police Chief Russell Scown noted the shallow grave back in 2017 saying it was about three feet by three feet.

While investigating closer, Maynard told the court he saw a human jaw bone and recalled Zuzu’s disappearance.

Nearby, Maynard noticed a human skull and then told the court he notified his supervisors saying, “I think this is a shallow grave.”

Maynard also told the court he remembered seeing blonde hair at the scene as well as beer bottles. However, Maynard says finding alcohol containers here was not uncommon.

Photos of the gravesite, as well as the grave were then shown to the court.

The photos show the area quarantined by crime tape as well as the skull that was found at the scene.

Maynard then says he located more bones in the area, prompting him to contact Brewster County Sheriff Ronny Dodson.

The defense then stepped in and questioned why Maynard described the plastic as similar to a plastic bag.

Maynard confirmed that immigrants often used plastic bags to sleep and burry things. However, the Border Patrol notes that immigrants were not apprehended in that area.

Day 4: Border Patrol Agent, Texas Ranger discuss Verk case
 
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Day 4 Continued

Jeff Vajdos

Next was Jeff Vados, a Texas Ranger in Alpine.

Vajdos says Alpine is generally a safe community.

The Ranger said he met with local police officers and observed Zuzu’s home noting that it was very unkempt and messy.

During the observation, Vajdos recalled seeing a blood splatter on the back wall and said it was splattered in an odd way.

Vajdos told the court he believed the blood “was significant at that time.”

However, Vajodos testified that the blood was from a dog injury.

Furthermore, Vajods recalls finding Zuzu’s cell phone in the home and downloaded the data but found nothing of significance.

The conversation then turns to Estrada and how investigators used Facebook to develop a timeline and pinpoint his location.

The following is a list of records discussed in court regarding Estrada’s timeline.

6 – 8:30 p.m. - Oct. 12, 2016: Estrada was at his home.

8:43 p.m. – Oct. 12, 2016: Location pinged at US 67 and US 90 intersection, about eight miles outside of Alpine.

9:18 – 10:12 p.m. – Oct. 12, 2016: Estrada is at a local restaurant.

10:15 – 10:21 p.m. – Oct. 12, 2016: Estrada is at a Dollar General.

10:22 – 10:49 p.m. – Oct. 12, 2016: With Fabian’s sister and brother-in law’s home.

10:50 – 12:12 a.m. – Oct. 12, 2016 – Oct. 13, 2016: At Fabian’s home

12:12 – 12:21 a.m. – Oct. 13, 2016: At Fabian’s sister and brother-in law’s home.

12:25 – 2:42 a.m. – Oct. 13, 2016: Estrada is at Gasca’s home

3:20 – 7:37 a.m.- Oct. 13, 2016: Estrada is back at his home.

Vajdos then turned to the calls and text messages from Robert Fabian during the week of Zuzu's disappearance.

The following is a record of Fabian's calls and text messages from Oct. 12 and during the week of Zuzu's disappearance:

- Fabian calls Estrada

- Fabian texts Zuzu

- Fabian and Estrada exchange messages multiple times throughout the day

- Fabian also texted and called Zuzu multiple times.

- Fabian also made multiple calls to his sister.

Vajdos then discusses his interview with Fabian and told the court they had to "guide" him to answers and notes he often used past tense.

"It raised a red flag," Vajdos told the court about Fabian's use of past tense in the interview.

Vajdos went on to talk about other "inconsistencies," which included the time at which Fabian left his apartment and that he seemed more “self-serving” than concerned about Zuzu.

The Ranger later talks to the court about the acquaintance that Miles Verk was accused of fighting with and who appeared in multiple witnesses’ testimony.

Vajdos says acquaintance was originally a person of interest in the case.

"He did have a romantic crush on Zuzu that was not reciprocated," Vajdos told the court.

Law enforcement interviewed the acquaintance and reviewed his Facebook records, which ultimately showed he was home during Fabian and Zuzu’s date night through the early morning of Zuzu's disappearance.

The Ranger, next, discussed the scene where Zuzu’s remains were found.

He told the court Thursday that hundreds of pieces of evidence were collected at the gravesite including a number of bones, which were all laid out on a blue tarp.

Vajdos also noted that there were no duplicate bones found during their search of the site and very little tissue remains intact.

The Ranger also noted finding multiple pieces of hair near the plastic at the scene.

Vajdos also told the court, that during the investigation, he too traveled to Dollar General and bought a drop cloth, telling the court it had the same consistency as the plastic found at the scene.

The defense then came in to question Vajdos.

They point out that Zuzu’s boots and underwear were not sent to a lab for testing and note doorknobs and blinds were not fingerprinted.

They also point out that nothing in Zuzu’s car was linked to Fabian. Furthermore, the Defense notes that the Facebook tracker only puts Estrada in a general area.

The defense then turns to the acquaintance, saying phone records only point to his phone and not him, but also point out that the acquaintance had scratches on him.

However, Vajdos says the acquaintance had an explanation for the scratches that were found on him.

Then, the defense turned to the grave site and notice that the investigators were sanctioned for leaving the gravesite.

They then ask if the drop cloths from Fabian’s home were tested, and Vajdos says no.

Barr then chimed in saying no other suspect purchased drop cloths during the disappearance and say the cloths in Fabian’s home matched the Dollar General packaging.

He also noted that Fabian purchased three drop cloths, but they only found one.

They then ask if it is easy to wipe away finger prints and Vajdos tells the court prints can be vagile.

The defense team then chimes in asking about DNA and if it is easy to wipe away, Vajdos responded with “no.”

Day 4: Border Patrol Agent, Texas Ranger discuss Verk case
 
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Fabian trial update: Texas Ranger testifies about phone records, interview with Fabian

LOCKHART, Texas — The trial of Robert Fabian is still underway as of May 3, but the focus on the first half of Friday's trial has now shifted to social media and phone records.

Texas Ranger Jeffrey Vajdos took the stand, testifying about phone records in the days after Fabian was suspected of murdering his on-again, off-again girlfriend Zuzu Verk.

The cell phone calls and text messages were described as frantic, with some going from Fabian to Verk but many more sent to Crhis Estrada, Fabian's friend.

Estrada told jurors in a previous days' testimony that Fabian admitted to him he had "accidentally" choked Verk to death and needed help moving her body.

There were also messages between Fabian and his sister, Jocelin Carrillo. Some of these messages occurred in the middle of the night at times when he had supposedly stayed at her house.

Vajdos also testified about an interview he conducted with Fabian before he was a suspect, which was prior to the time her skeletal remains were found by a Border Patrol agent. Fabian was arrested the next day and has been behind bars ever since.

Fabian trial update: Texas Ranger testifies about phone records, interview with Fabian
 
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So, CE says he didn't help RF transport her to the grave site, but she was too heavy for RF to do it alone. Are we to believe RF did it alone, did someone else help him, or is CE lying about that?
 
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Monday, May 6th:
*Trial continues (Day 5) (@ 9am CT) - TX - Zuzu Verk (21) (missing Oct. 12, 2016, Alpine; found Feb. 3, 2017) – only for *Robert Fabian (26) indicted (2/6/27) with 1st degree murder & tampering with evidence with or fabricating physical evidence by concealing a human corpse. Plead not guilty. Held on $925K bond. Trial started 4/29/19. Moved from Brewster County to Caldwell County.
4/29/19 Jury Selection Day 1: Expected to last one day with opening statements starting on Tuesday, 4/30.
4/30/19 Day 1: Opening statements. State witnesses: Lori Verk (Zuzu’s mom). Andre’ana Doggett (Zuzu's best friend). Meredith Schock (Zuzu's neighbor). John Franco (Fabian's downstairs neighbor). Oumy Ndiaye. Sgt. Aaron Villanueva, LE officer who investigated Zuzu's disappearance. Trial continues on 5/1.
5/1/19 Day 2: State witnesses: John Franco (neighbor of Fabian). Miles Verk (Zuzu's brother). Josh Cobos (friend of Fabian). James Carillo (Fabian's BIL). Brewster County Sheriff Ronny Dodson (lead search for Zuzu). Sgt. Kirk Hoffman, Alpine PD (collected evidence). Cpt. Darryl Losyoa, Alpine PD (interviewed Fabian). After Losoya took the stand, the court turned to a video recorded interview with Fabian. Trial continues on 5/2.
5/2/19 Day 3: State witnesses: Captain Darryl Losyoa, returned to video of interview & showed 2nd interview. Chris Estrada. Amy Lenpher, an employee of Dollar General. Pamela Miller, a former Brewster County resident who lived in the area where Zuzu’s remains were eventually found. Brittney Gasca (friend of Estrada's). Dianne Moore, former CEO & CFO of Big Bend Regional Medical Center & worked with Fabian. Yolanda Jurado, also worked BBRMC with Fabian. Trial continues on 5/3.
5/3/19 Day 4: Alpine Border Patrol Agent Jared Maynard, found Zuzu's body. Jeff Vajdos, a Texas Ranger in Alpine. Prosecutors spent part of Friday presenting call & text records of Fabian. Trial continues on 5/6.
*Chris Estrada (28) 2 counts of tampering with physical evidence/corpse & tampering with evidence; trial date was supposed to be May 21, 2018. 4/20/18 pled guilty (no contest) to plea deal to 2 counts of tampering with physical evidence/corpse & tampering with evidence. Will be sentenced after Fabian trial.
 

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