UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #2

[AM12]

Clearly, the black nike top was not being worn when alesha was being carried or it was washed clean of fibres(if possible) before being left “fresh (looking)”on the beach

Yes but fibers would still have been on Aleshas clothes if it was worn during

 

[angeldust]

Quite a lot of circumstantial evidence has been produced but for me the most difficult for the defence to explain away would be his mother agreeing the boxers on the beach looked like her son’s...she probably would have washed them plenty of times for him even if she hadn’t bought them for him...I really can’t see the defence being able explain this away. This really is a tragic case, I, like others, am beginning to believe his own mother knows it was her own son that committed this terrible crime...

Impossible to imagine what hell that woman must be going through. If there is any substance to rumours she must be destroyed. She couldn’t have known her son was capable of such a thing, who could really.? I bet she blames herself too it’s just horrific all round No matter what the outcome she has to deal with it all too

 

[Truthseeker777]

Yes but fibers would still have been on Aleshas clothes if it was worn during

Indeed so it was not worn whilst carrying the little girl. The accused said he gave it to TMc...surely if she was trying to frame him she would have used it but it has come up clean assuming of course this is the actual top he left his house wearing...

 

[Kikixxxx]

So he had grey joggers on at 12.30 and black joggers at 1.54 when he left the house?

I think the cctv would be on night vision so it wouldn’t be able to differentiate colours. Dark grey joggers would appear black etc

 

[bronbaby]

Indeed so it was not worn whilst carrying the little girl. The accused said he gave it to TMc...surely if she was trying to frame him she would have used it but it has come up clean assuming of course this is the actual top he left his house wearing...

I am struggling with what the person carrying alesha was wearing. I assumed they had their head covered, explains a hoody being worn by the accused. But how did no fibre transfer to her clothing? Was she wrapped in say a blanket? Was the hoody then removed at the wooded area before the rest of the crime was to take place, then be thrown onto the sea after? Regarding CCTV of shoreline I thought the figures head was covered.

 

[Truthseeker777]

Impossible to imagine what hell that woman must be going through. If there is any substance to rumours she must be destroyed. She couldn’t have known her son was capable of such a thing, who could really.? I bet she blames herself too it’s just horrific all round No matter what the outcome she has to deal with it all too

It’s absolutely heartbreaking for many people especially those who loved Alesha and even those who loved the accused...it truly is a tragedy ... human nature spans the angelic to the demonic and sadly on that fateful night the darkest forces came through and created so much pain

 

[Truthseeker777]

I think the cctv would be on night vision so it wouldn’t be able to differentiate colours. Dark grey joggers would appear black etc

But the 30 fibres forensics found were described as being “black”

 

[Truthseeker777]

I am struggling with what the person carrying alesha was wearing. I assumed they had their head covered, explains a hoody being worn by the accused. But how did no fibre transfer to her clothing? Was she wrapped in say a blanket? Was the hoody then removed at the wooded area before the rest of the crime was to take place, then be thrown onto the sea after? Regarding CCTV of shoreline I thought the figures head was covered.

Who said the figure’s head was “covered” please?

 

[bronbaby]

Who said the figure’s head was “covered” please?

I must be mistaken then. I thought o had read that online. Should o delete my post? Apologies, new here

 

[Kikixxxx]

But the 30 fibres forensics found were described as being “black”

Photographic evidence showed a kitchen knife and several items of male clothing, including a pair of men's boxer shorts, jogging bottoms and a hooded top, which were discovered near her body.

Images showed an inside-out pair of men's grey jogging bottoms with a pair of men's boxer shorts inside.


The joggers washed up on the beach were deffinitley grey

 

[Truthseeker777]

I must be mistaken then. I thought o had read that online. Should o delete my post? Apologies, new here

Don’t worry about it. I’m new too. Nice to meet you

 

[Truthseeker777]

Photographic evidence showed a kitchen knife and several items of male clothing, including a pair of men's boxer shorts, jogging bottoms and a hooded top, which were discovered near her body.

Images showed an inside-out pair of men's grey jogging bottoms with a pair of men's boxer shorts inside.


The joggers washed up on the beach were deffinitley grey

So why on earth are forensics talking about 30 “black” fibres ?

 

[Kikixxxx]

So why on earth are forensics talking about 30 “black” fibres ?

Sarah Jones, a forensic scientist, also gave evidence on the sixth day of the trial.

She told the court that her studies showed a total of 69 black and grey fibres from jogging trousers and boxers recovered from the shoreline on the island were "indistinguishable" from those found on Alesha's clothes.

A mixture of both grey and black. Maybe the joggers were grey but the cord ties ( that you tighten around your waist ) were black maybe? I don’t know

 

[bronbaby]

Don’t worry about it. I’m new too. Nice to meet you

Shows how important it is not to go on what I think I’ve read but be clear on facts

 

[Truthseeker777]

Sarah Jones, a forensic scientist, also gave evidence on the sixth day of the trial.

She told the court that her studies showed a total of 69 black and grey fibres from jogging trousers and boxers recovered from the shoreline on the island were "indistinguishable" from those found on Alesha's clothes.

A mixture of both grey and black. Maybe the joggers were grey but the cord ties ( that you tighten around your waist ) were black maybe? I don’t know

Ah...this is the quoteI was referring to in the Daily Mail

Ms Jones told the court: 'Overall we consider the black polyester and black viscose fibres found on Alesha MacPhail's vest came from the jogging bottoms found on the shoreline in Ardbeg.'

Some 30 black polyester fibres and 13 black viscose fibres were found on Alesha's pants and shorts, which were discovered close by her body.

 

[angeldust]

I’ve just read a report that states he was wearing all black when he left god knows what the truth is

 

[Truthseeker777]

Shows how important it is not to go on what I think I’ve read but be clear on facts

Absolutely

 

[Truthseeker777]

I’ve just read a report that states he was wearing all black when he left god knows what the truth is

Yes I read that too...either the reporting is not good and confusing us or the court case is a mess

 

[angeldust]

Yes I read that too...either the reporting is not good and confusing us or the court case is a mess

I’m beginning to think the latter

 

[Gardenista]

Yes I read that too...either the reporting is not good and confusing us or the court case is a mess

It's just really hard to follow a trial based on tweets and news stories. I try to only follow trials that are videoed because so many times we find reporters errors.