UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #3

[sindydee]

Yeah


I know it’s an utter joke

I actually thought I wasn't understanding something as its so stupid.

 

[Edinlass]

I remember the word fabrication was in the question, from the last thread but can"t remember exact wording

Your right it was the QC saying his jogging bottoms thrown into the water was a fabrication and nonsense.

 

[Taskforce88]

I believe a lot has been held back from being reported. Tweets are not a good way to get in-depth information about the trial.

 

[Bluedaisy100]

I gave an opinion about her body's being posed from descriptions I read of her being out in the open, face down and naked. I just imagined it being horrible to come across with no attempt to hide the body. Her body had the most incriminating evidence. So why didn't he make more of an effort to hide it? All this is JMO

 

[404_notfound]

What gets me is his lawyer must have presented him with this action to take, a 16 year old isn’t going to know what a special defence is let alone know that he could use this in his defence. Half of us on Websleuths never knew what it was, it’s only Scottish law aswell I think not in English law. It’s bloody Irish IMO...

It does grind the gears rather doesn't it, especially since the public will be paying for it. But i suppose on the other hand you want him going to jail and staying there and if he can pop back up in a year or two and say "oh my lawyer didn't act in my best interest!" he might get out on some ridiculous appeal. So better to throw it all in the first time round. I don't think it will make any difference. We are just reading accounts in the media and it's such a horrible case. I doubt the jury, after viewing all the actual photographs and seeing the full pathology report and so on, will believe a word of his so-called "defense".

 

[angeldust]

I do wonder if he’s receiving legal aid. I know if you earn under £15k p.a. you’re immediately entitled to it but not sure when you are still in education or if it goes by your parents earnings. Makes no odds just wondering.

He absolutely will
He’s a minor and on trial for murder

 

[Edinlass]

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I know it’s an utter joke[/QUOTE]

I hope TM sues for millions and they rethink this crazy defence as there is nothing special about it...

 

[Pooksthebear]

the second time when the search was going on and someone was picked up by the police helicopter in the woods near to where Alesha was later found.

Really? I didn’t know about that! Not heard much about the spinal injury either? Except that it could have been caused by him holding her hair and shaking her

 

[Taskforce88]

Have you got a link to this? I must have missed it.

Not off hand, the person in the woods has been discussed a number of times. Does anyone know the source of the person in the woods?

 

[Edinlass]

He absolutely will
He’s a minor and on trial for murder

Thanks

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I gave an opinion about her body's being posed from descriptions I read of her being out in the open, face down and naked. I just imagined it being horrible to come across with no attempt to hide the body. Her body had the most incriminating evidence. So why didn't he make more of an effort to hide it? All this is JMO

I think she was posed, for maximum shock impact. JMO

 

[angeldust]

End of the day, as I stated on the previous thread. This wee lass was 'violated' which (unless the forensics think it wasn't a male) shows Toni cannot be directly involved in some of these acts.

Hi they said it could be penil, digital or implement as they cannot tell how the injuries happened

 

[Taskforce88]

I think she was posed, for maximum shock impact. JMO

Very possible. If that is the case it means he wasn't planning on going back to move the body again. So I wonder if the spot where she was dumped has some significance to him or anyone involved.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I wonder if any previous history will be made public if he is found guilty? Someone mentioned Bailey Gwynne's murder yesterday and I looked it up. Not to go OT, but the relevant fact is BG's murderer's previous history was made public. Not that we know whether the accused has any history or not, but his comment to a friend about the police always blaming him was interesting.

 

[Taskforce88]

Hi they said it could be penil, digital or implement as they cannot tell how the injuries happened

Due to the significant damage I did wonder if an object was used.

 

[L White]

I wonder if any previous history will be made public if he is found guilty? Someone mentioned Bailey Gwynne's murder yesterday and I looked it up. Not to go OT, but the relevant fact is BG's murderer's previous history was made public. Not that we know whether the accused has any history or not, but his comment to a friend about the police always blaming him was interesting.

I believe this will be relevant if he is found guilty and named.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Very possible. If that is the case it means he wasn't planning on going back to move the body again. So I wonder if the spot where she was dumped has some significance to him or anyone involved.

V good point. Some hidden message perhaps, or just a secret of his own

 

[L White]

Do the the significant damage I did wonder if an object was used.

She was 6. We don't need to go into detail to say almost anything could cause an injury

 

[Edinlass]

I wonder if any previous history will be made public if he is found guilty? Someone mentioned Bailey Gwynne's murder yesterday and I looked it up. Not to go OT, but the relevant fact is BG's murderer's previous history was made public. Not that we know whether the accused has any history or not, but his comment to a friend about the police always blaming him was interesting.

May well come out but not until he hits 18 and is named

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Due to the significant damage I did wonder if an object was used.

I have to be honest, I wondered if that was the reason for the knife. Was v relieved to be wrong.