UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #3

[Bustia]

Have we heard anything in MSM about the accused father?
Could he be called by the defence?

The only thing I seen today was the accused saying he went out to look for his phone because his parents have been angry at him in the past over broken phones - summarising. Other than that as far as I’m aware it’s only his mother that has been mentioned.

 

[angeldust]

I feel its more personal towards the other family but have no basis for that. It just seems so spiteful, as well as everything else.

Oh it’s spiteful. That’s why I said could there be truth to her stopping the f buddy meet ups and him seeking revenge on her and him in the process

 

[Popcorn80]

I’m thinking maybe a teacher from school as a character witness maybe

 

[AM12]

As Edinlass and most others know, I was not at the point where I was prepared to say he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt initially, based on the first facts coming from the prosecution. However, the circumstantial evidence, coupled with the DNA, semen, fibres, his woefully unbelievable defence... I’m very sorry, but I certainly believe in a fair trial and fair evaluation but I honestly do not know how any jury could find him not guilty.

As I have previously stated, IF Toni DID have motive and was plotting to murder this little girl, why on earth would she create such an elaborate chain of potentially incriminating events. A simple accident would have sufficed. She had continual access to the child. She could have crept outside with her and drowned her in the sea, claiming she must have sleepwalked. It’s an absolute fantasy that this boy has created and he is an incredibly dangerous person in my opinion.

Absolutely and must be psychopathic as no remorse or empathy for victim or family

 

[Edinlass]

See



I think he has mommy issues too , rage towards mum , defenceless female child, maybe hates women, seems like a frenzied and prolonged attack and I hate saying that

Yeah he has issues period this boy. Appears to blame his mum for all his mistakes. Classic daddy issues that tho, the dad leaves the family and yet the mother gets the brunt of it. Meanwhile the dad lives up there on a pedistool (this may not be the case of course , just I’ve seen kids do this) and vice versa of course, not wanting to look sexist. Just whichever parent leaves the one left behind is left to pick up the pieces and is treated the worst IMO

My daughters father passed away when she was 6 yet she really didn’t have all that much to do with him. Seen him at Xmas or b’days, could go literally 6 month without seeing him and she wouldn’t ask for him. I used to ask her if she wanted to see him or speak when he called, nope not interested. He was a total waste of space btw. Then, he dies and she misses her dad, he was the best thing since sliced bread, some of the emotions she feels are blamed on her dad no longer being here. Yet, if he was still alive she would literally not want to see him. We do put people on pedistools as humans eh, it’s like we easily forget the bad stuff when someone dies.

 

[Kikixxxx]

The only thing I seen today was the accused saying he went out to look for his phone because his parents have been angry at him in the past over broken phones - summarising. Other than that as far as I’m aware it’s only his mother that has been mentioned.

Wher did you read that I didn’t see anything like that ?

 

[Bustia]

Wher did you read that I didn’t see anything like that ?

I’ll find the article and link it.

 

[angeldust]

We also have to remember that you cannot reason with insanity and I’m sure we’re dealing with a non typical person here

 

[Edinlass]

We also have to remember that you cannot reason with insanity and I’m sure we’re dealing with a non typical person here

Spot on. Wasted energy.

 

[Bustia]

Wher did you read that I didn’t see anything like that ?

“...then realised he did not have his phone with him and rushed back outside to look for it in panic, because his parents were angry with him for breaking previous phones.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/19/dna-alesha-macphail-court

 

[angeldust]

Yeah he has issues period this boy. Appears to blame his mum for all his mistakes. Classic daddy issues that tho, the dad leaves the family and yet the mother gets the brunt of it. Meanwhile the dad lives up there on a pedistool (this may not be the case of course , just I’ve seen kids do this)

My daughters father passed away when she was 6 yet she really didn’t have all that much to do with him. Seen him at Xmas or b’days, could go literally 6 month without seeing him and she wouldn’t ask for him. I used to ask her if she wanted to see him or speak when he called, nope not interested. He was a total waste of space btw. Then, he dies and she misses her dad, he was the best thing since sliced bread, some of the emotions she feels are blamed on her dad no longer being here. Yet, if he was still alive she would literally not want to see him. We do put people on pedistools as humans eh, it’s like we easily forget the bad stuff when someone dies.

Absolutely you are right never speak ill
Of the dead and all that, yet they could
Be a right a hole but not allowed to say that. Sorry about your wee girl they do tend to do that I’m sure it’s a coping mechanism with young kids xx

 

[AM12]

Just want to say thank you to everyone that just has posted the tweets and links since the trial started. Much appreciated. Been at work since it started so had to catch up when I get in.

Not sure if anyone can help me out here. I probably have missed something, but one question I do have is why TM was allowed to be accused by the defendant in the first place? Would the police not of questioned her and her boyfriend and confirmed them both as each others alibi? Ruling them out as suspects? Seeing as they were both staying in the flat that night? Just seems really terrible that she has gone through all this if the police had already ruled her out. Or is this what is allowed within the law there?

Is strange . Only introduced as defence at beginning of trial so would have been out of Police hands at that time . Maybe they just thought evidence was so compelling that it could not have been taken seriously but agree that prosecution have done little to rebut this and simple cross examination of basic details would quickly have put holes in his defence

 

[bronzepurple]

Oh it’s spiteful. That’s why I said could there be truth to her stopping the f buddy meet ups and him seeking revenge on her and him in the process

Ah yes that could be definitely be a possibility...he was jealous and didn't like being told no and that he was no longer being 'chosen' by her. That and he probably also has always thought about children sexually and thought about acting on it.

 

[Edinlass]

“...then realised he did not have his phone with him and rushed back outside to look for it in panic, because his parents were angry with him for breaking previous phones.”

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/feb/19/dna-alesha-macphail-court

Maybe the dad is around and wants nothing to do with the case. Doesn’t want reported etc. I just find it strange why the mother would bring along the uncle and her friend (aunt) to chat about DNA and a missing child with her son. You would think this would be the role of both Mum and Dad but who knows not all dads are hands on, merely in the background, not getting involved

 

[Crestnut]

Can I start by sending thoughts and prayers to all of Alesha’s family who’ve had to endure the most unimaginable heartbreak and then to sit there today and listen to the lies spouted by this psychopath, it’s just beyond belief. My thoughts are with them tonight.

I actually feel sad for aleshas family but more so the mother especially if she did not know her daughter was staying with drug dealing and domestic abuse accussations going on then to lose her beloved daugher away from home in such tragic, evil circumstances

 

[Edinlass]

Absolutely you are right never speak ill
Of the dead and all that, yet they could
Be a right a hole but not allowed to say that. Sorry about your wee girl they do tend to do that I’m sure it’s a coping mechanism with young kids xx

Thanks, bereavement counselling sorted her out and lots of love xx

 

[AM12]

End of the day, as I stated on the previous thread. This wee lass was 'violated' which (unless the forensics think it wasn't a male) shows Toni cannot be directly involved in some of these acts.

As was said by witness it is highly unlikely but not scientifically impossible

 

[angeldust]

Ah yes that could be definitely be a possibility...he was jealous and didn't like being told no and that he was no longer being 'chosen' by her. That and he probably also has always thought about children sexually and thought about acting on it.

Agree. I do think he’s disturbed, for the want of a better word

 

[Crestnut]

Ah yes that could be definitely be a possibility...he was jealous and didn't like being told no and that he was no longer being 'chosen' by her. That and he probably also has always thought about children sexually and thought about acting on it.

My thoughts were maybe he done it to get back at aleshas father due to the girlfriend telling him about the domestic abuse she seemingly sufferred

 

[Edinlass]

My thoughts were maybe he done it to get back at aleshas father due to the girlfriend telling him about the domestic abuse she seemingly sufferred

But then incriminate TM in his special defence. Doesnt make much sense?