UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #3

[bronzepurple]

A boy of this age to go into a house and kidnap a young girl and then after the horror pop out covering his tracks
Then to Act no different after an event like this and even joke with friends is frightening he then puts the family through this case/ordeal and even takes the stand is a very dangerous narcissistic who imo ranks up with the worst I have seen over the years
The age and the little things like asking his mum to leave the room when talking to the police is unbelievable at such a young age showing control after such an act

Agreed. Makes me shudder at the thought of it.

 

[Pooksthebear]

Yeah. I think so too. I don’t think it was the area in the media as it’s too far in, I think it was more nearer the bushes on the outskirts, where the police tape was and Where the stairs are imbedded in the bushes. close to the red phone box..

Yes I remember reading the statement of the man who found her, he said he went up the steps and when he looked over them he could see her.

 

[Crestnut]

Maybe he had been paying close attention to things Toni said in the past about her life with Rab, that they shared a room, that Rab's daughter slept on her own, etc. Maybe he was storing all this info away whenever Toni was venting about Rab. And as for the unlocked door...well I think a lot of people on Rothesay are not that careful about locking their doors....I often walk past cars with their windows down, parked on the side of the road. And we never hear of cars getting stolen here, or people's houses being burgled. Not saying this is what happened, just an idea.

But the grandmother stated she left the key in door accidentally that night so makes me think its usually locked so how would the accussed know the door would be open?

 

[Thebutlerdiditagain]

But the grandmother stated she left the key in door accidentally that night so makes me think its usually locked so how would the accussed know the door would be open?

Don’t think he did but then to enter and kidnap with adults in the house is a frightening and very dangerous kid and then what followed
It looks like he returned home and just returned to his normal day to day life

 

[bronbaby]

Guilty. Can’t believe the site was down for so long, I was having withdrawals and blaming my mums poor WiFi connection. Lol

Why was the site down this afternoon Edinlass? Xo

 

[bronzepurple]

Don’t think he did but then to enter and kidnap with adults in the house is a frightening and very dangerous kid and then what followed
It looks like he returned home and just returned to his normal day to day life

They said he 'sauntered' back into his house after murdering Alesha. Disturbing much!!

 

[Bluedaisy100]

I think it's likely that he skulked around, peeping in windows, sneaking into open doors on a regular basis. Honing his craft so to speak. Perhaps he's been caught up and this is why he was suspected early on and why everyone would blame him. He's talked his way out of trouble before. I've thought that this crime took preplanning and fantasizing. Maybe on one of his little forays he found the door open and pounced on the opportunity to realize his fantasy, uniting the planning with the opportunity. Parents hold your children tight. JMO

 

[AM12]

Mr McConnachie also recalled CCTV images of the accused taken at 3.35am on the morning of Alesha's death.

He said the accused was seen " sauntering" in a manner of someone "without a care in the world".

He said it was not the actions of someone who had just seven minutes before carried out a rape and murder.

Mr McConnachie said it was more the actions of someone who had just had a liaison with Toni McLachlan


Unless the reporting is wrong is the QC saying she was killed at 3.28 wtf they couldn't determine TOD

The thought of him going back to that crime scene gets me. That back road he would have taken in the darkness to then come across the horror he had inflicted just a short time before. Was he checking if he had left something, checking if she was dead? I wonder if he got enjoyment seeing it again?

Its possible he didn't return to crime scene although would have been possible in that time . He may have been disposing of evidence such as joggers

 

[bronzepurple]

I think it's likely that he skulked around, peeping in windows, sneaking into open doors on a regular basis. Honing his craft so to speak. Perhaps he's been caught up and this is why he was suspected early on and why everyone would blame him. He's talked his way out of trouble before. I've thought that this crime took preplanning and fantasizing. Maybe on one of his little forays he found the door open and pounced on the opportunity to realize his fantasy, uniting the planning with the opportunity. Parents hold your children tight. JMO

Yeah I don't think he knew the key would be in the door that night but I suspect he had probably checked on prior occasions to see how stringent they were with locking up, whether they left windows open etc. I think he had been planning this for a long time. He probably took tips from all those crime documentary programmes he watched.

 

[AM12]

As a local what do you make of the estimated timings? I keep looking at google maps and i just can't see it being 6 or 7 minutes from his CCTV, i bet he could do that in 3?

Easy if running

 

[Kikixxxx]

Alesha MacPhail: accused posted video in Snapchat group with words ‘I’ve found guy who’s done it’

he girl said: “We were talking about crime documentaries and I remember him saying he would ‘kill just for a lifetime experience’.”

She said she initiated the conversation, but the boy told her ‘killing part is taking them, being dead is the real goal so meh’,
Wouldn’t kill for fun just beneficial if they gone’.




I don’t remember reading this before... ??

 

[bronzepurple]

Another girl, also aged 16, said of the accused: “Police always blame him for all the things that happen in the area of Ardbeg”.

Read more at: Alesha MacPhail: accused posted video in Snapchat group with words ‘I’ve found guy who’s done it’

wow! didn't know that!!

 

[bronzepurple]

Alesha MacPhail: accused posted video in Snapchat group with words ‘I’ve found guy who’s done it’

he girl said: “We were talking about crime documentaries and I remember him saying he would ‘kill just for a lifetime experience’.”

She said she initiated the conversation, but the boy told her ‘killing part is taking them, being dead is the real goal so meh’,
Wouldn’t kill for fun just beneficial if they gone’.




I don’t remember reading this before... ??

I don't understand what he's meaning...'killing part is taking them'....?

 

[arrogantcat]

Mr McConnachie also recalled CCTV images of the accused taken at 3.35am on the morning of Alesha's death.

He said the accused was seen " sauntering" in a manner of someone "without a care in the world".

He said it was not the actions of someone who had just seven minutes before carried out a rape and murder.

Such a ridiculous statement. How many people has he observed walking 7 minutes after committing rape and murder in order to come to this informed opinion? Is there an agreed murderer walk they all adhere to?

 

[arrogantcat]

Quite a few people have mentioned believing the perp of this case must be a psychopath/ sociopath, so I thought this might be of interest. These are the 20 diagnostic criteria for psychopathy:

- Do you exhibit glib and superficial charm?

- Do you have a grandiose (exaggeratedly high) estimation of self?

- Do you have a constant need for stimulation?

- Are you a pathological liar?

- Are you cunning and manipulative?

- Do you have lack of remorse or guilt?

- Do you have shallow affect (superficial emotional responsiveness)?

- Are you callous, and do you lack empathy?

- Do you have a parasitic lifestyle?

- Do you have poor behavioral controls?

- Are you sexually promiscuous?

- Did you display early behavior problems?

- Do you lack realistic long-term goals?

- Are you overly impulsive?

- Are you irresponsible?

- Do you fail to accept responsibility for own actions?

- Have you had many short-term marital relationships?

- Do you have a history of juvenile delinquency?

- Have you experienced a revocation of conditional release?

- Do you display criminal versatility

 

[angeldust]

Mr McSporran responds to claims Toni was jealous of Rab’s relationship with Alesha. He says “jealous, to take her from her bed and rip her apart. That is some jealousy”.


This ^ is a horrific statement

 

[Rhenish]

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Mr McConnachie also recalled CCTV images of the accused taken at 3.35am on the morning of Alesha's death.

He said the accused was seen " sauntering" in a manner of someone "without a care in the world".

He said it was not the actions of someone who had just seven minutes before carried out a rape and murder.

Mr McConnachie said it was more the actions of someone who had just had a liaison with Toni McLachlan


Unless the reporting is wrong is the QC saying she was killed at 3.28 wtf they couldn't determine TOD

"Sauntering" in a manner of someone "without a care in the world.

Yep, he very well may have been "sauntering" because he just got "his rocks off" while fulfilling a child rape fantasy and murder that he had previously told others he would like to experience. The perv loved every second of pleasure that he got from ravishing a six year old and watching her die, now he is enjoying the cat and mouse game. So I disagree with the statement that his atty. made.

The accused's atty. is trying to shove done jurors throat anything to save his killer client.

Just to add, I hate using "the accused" reference to the killer freak. Can we all just agree to call him "psycho 16 year old lying pedophile freak" or something along those lines. "The accused is just too gentle and he does not deserve such consideration.

 

[Eezer Goode]

Hi everyone i am an occasional lurker on this site but have read every page of the trial threads.

To restore my faith in humanity, i am hoping that you are all privvy to some special, extra info not contained herein (e.g. a history of appalling violence, rape or molestation). As it stands, all i see is a witch hunt of an innocent boy based on, literally, nothing. The name calling is shameful and the logic applied by many is not only flawed but worryingly biased.

I have no doubt that, even if found not guilty, the majority on here will consider him guilty regardless. It is scary to think that, assuming mostly adults post on this thread, any one of you could be considered for jury service.

I'm positive that many of you would relish referring to this boy as a "psycho 16 year old lying pedophile freak" as opposed to 'the accused' in line with what the above poster suggested. Unfortunately that says more about you than it does him.

I'm sorry my first post is somewhat confrontational but it seems any discussion (which you are all sure is calm, considered and appreciative of all viewpoints) that doesn't denote bloodboiling from the accused's 'arrogent', 'narcissistic', 'cold', 'psychopathic', 'immature' 'goading' behaviour is not entertained.

I usually enjoy lurking here when an interesting case arises but the twisted logic applied to the circumstances and the determination in condemning the defendant has left a bad taste in my mouth. Very odd indeed.

 

[Edinlass]

Why was the site down this afternoon Edinlass? Xo

I have no idea but it was frustrating, Thought my sky bill hadn’t been paid lol

 

[Edinlass]

Hi everyone i am an occasional lurker on this site but have read every page of the trial threads.

To restore my faith in humanity, i am hoping that you are all privvy to some special, extra info not contained herein (e.g. a history of appalling violence, rape or molestation). As it stands, all i see is a witch hunt of an innocent boy based on, literally, nothing. The name calling is shameful and the logic applied by many is not only flawed but worryingly biased.

I have no doubt that, even if found not guilty, the majority on here will consider him guilty regardless. It is scary to think that, assuming mostly adults post on this thread, any one of you could be considered for jury service.

I'm positive that many of you would relish referring to this boy as a "psycho 16 year old lying pedophile freak" as opposed to 'the accused' in line with what the above poster suggested. Unfortunately that says more about you than it does him.

I'm sorry my first post is somewhat confrontational but it seems any discussion (which you are all sure is calm, considered and appreciative of all viewpoints) that doesn't denote bloodboiling from the accused's 'arrogent', 'narcissistic', 'cold', 'psychopathic', 'immature' 'goading' behaviour is not entertained.

I usually enjoy lurking here when an interesting case arises but the twisted logic applied to the circumstances and the determination in condemning the defendant has left a bad taste in my mouth. Very odd indeed.

Welcolme.

It’s a shame you feel this way, starting with the most obvious question - why are you so adamant he isn’t guilty? How do you suppose the accused’s semen was found ‘inside’ a 6 year old girl he had never met who just happened to also have the DNA of the accused over her entire body? How did fibres of the victim end up on clothes of the accused whom she had never met? Who was the figure spotted on CCTV carrying what appeared to be a child, the only child reported missing in the island that night, a ghost?

Let me know, I’m genuinely intrigued.