UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #4

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That CCTV video is truly chilling.

Sounds familiar, but there’s a longer and better quality version available on the Daily Mail website than the one linked here. As he comes back to the house for the first time you can hear what I think is him telling himself, very loudly, to “Ssssshhhhh”?!

Can’t help but notice a cobweb in front on the camera too, thank goodness this one didn’t get in the way too much

Haha, cobwebs again.... pesky critters....

The DM video clip is much better.... he definately comes back from the woods on his final return at 4.07am....
 
  • #823
Not that his identity has been revealed, can we talk about the "cover-up" on the island he was a part of?

So there's more than has been reported in the news so far?
 
  • #824
Haha, cobwebs again.... pesky critters....

The DM video clip is much better.... he definately comes back from the woods on his final return at 4.07am....

Great catch! I kept wondering why he didn't just cut through so I figured it was not possible to go that way. I missed it on the final trip, though.
 
  • #825
I keep coming back to the same thing. She thought they were going on an adventure.

And that just makes my heart break more if that was the case... Not that I think taken by knife would be any better... Whole thing is sickening
 
  • #826
Has the other cctv of him down by the shoreline been made available?
 
  • #826
I'm surprised the tabloids didn't publish all of the rumors they've heard since they had no trouble publishing some of them. Maybe they are saving that story for another day.
 
  • #827
Maybe it isn't true.
 
  • #828
Has the other cctv of him down by the shoreline been made available?

No, I don’t think it will be as Alesha is on there too.
 
  • #829
I think this case will keep in the news for decades to come. I haven’t seen the evidence but three hours to dismiss, converge and recall is pretty much unheard of in a murder case.

Even though that suggests it’s nailed on and the evidence I have heard confirms they caught a monster, there’s that small doubt that lingers. There are some very strange stuff with this story that suggests there’s stuff to discover.

Without going into too much details, the phone calls, the lack of evidence in one place but abundance in another, the way the accused goes from incredibly calm and calculating to incredibly stupid. Even how the damning evidence is found and the times.

In fact if the lad had said nothing, I would have believed him more. His fabrications are what has swung it for me. I can understand why there’s doubt in some when they look at it.

It’s that cctv that chills me. That’s not someone in panic. Either we have got it wrong or this guy is truly something unheard of.
 
  • #830
would it not be possible to discuss the cover up but omit the victims details? I understand what you are saying completely. But if there has been a cover up. And we know what subsequently happened to Alesha. Lessons have to be learned surely.

For all we know there is a criminal case regarding that incident now ongoing. Basic elements have been revealed in the press already. As a survivor myself i would quite literally have killed myself if it had all been revealed in this manner when i was that age.
 
  • #831
I think we can all read between the lines here.
 
  • #832
Lessons have to be learned surely.

I hope that lessons are learned from this situation to try and prevent something like this happening again.

However, I don’t think it’s up to us to decide what those lessons are and discussing rumour isn’t going to help anything.
 
  • #833
I think this case will keep in the news for decades to come. I haven’t seen the evidence but three hours to dismiss, converge and recall is pretty much unheard of in a murder case.

Even though that suggests it’s nailed on and the evidence I have heard confirms they caught a monster, there’s that small doubt that lingers. There are some very strange stuff with this story that suggests there’s stuff to discover.

Without going into too much details, the phone calls, the lack of evidence in one place but abundance in another, the way the accused goes from incredibly calm and calculating to incredibly stupid. Even how the damning evidence is found and the times.

In fact if the lad had said nothing, I would have believed him more. His fabrications are what has swung it for me. I can understand why there’s doubt in some when they look at it.

It’s that cctv that chills me. That’s not someone in panic. Either we have got it wrong or this guy is truly something unheard of.
Sadly, not unheard of. Fortunately, not too common.
 
  • #834
(AC’s) mum... said she was urged to check footage last July 2 by the aunt of Toni McLachlan...


She recalled: “She said to me to look at 2am onwards because that’s the last time Toni saw her in bed

‘ I waited for my friend to finish work and said to her, ‘Look, I’ve gone through that CCTV from the time that you’ve said and he has gone out and come back’.

“She said, ‘Well, you better phone the police’.”


So, Toni saw Alesha at 2am

Were we, and more importantly the jury, aware of this ?
Yes, you are spot on. I saw that in an earlier post and thought that I was losing the plot, somehow, as it mucked up the timelines from what we had been told. I don't know what the jury made of that statement at all...
 
  • #835
To be honest, I'd rather wait to hear the sentencing reports. MSM is rather vague in their allegations. If AC has been subject to other investigations and social services and/or the police had been made aware, then I can guarantee that there wuld be no 'cover up'. Allegations of SA are always investigated by the police.
 
  • #836
Until he gives a true account of what happened, there will be stuff to discover. I can see lots of gaps.
 
  • #837
A cover up could imply they were not reported to the police.
 
  • #838
I wish he had just pleaded guilty and admitted everything.
 
  • #839
"Charles O'Neill and William Lauchlan are not unknown in the Scottish courts and were once described by a judge as "evil, determined and manipulative". They are not only killers, but predatory paedophiles who have convictions dating back 12 years. ... In Rothesay, on the Isle of Bute, the pair are known to have babysat for mothers who were heavy drinkers, allowing them access to their sons."

McGarrigle duo's depraved history - BBC 2010

This is too close to home. Very strange.
 
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"Charles O'Neill and William Lauchlan are not unknown in the Scottish courts and were once described by a judge as "evil, determined and manipulative". They are not only killers, but predatory paedophiles who have convictions dating back 12 years. ... In Rothesay, on the Isle of Bute, the pair are known to have babysat for mothers who were heavy drinkers, allowing them access to their sons."

McGarrigle duo's depraved history - BBC 2010

This is too close to home. Alcoholic parents, timeline matches up.

A 'ring' was operating on Bute for some time. It had links with the mainland. There are known offenders living on the island.

There is some connection - some of it very very weird - but what can be said is limited for now.
 
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