UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #5

[Ciana]

Well, the lady did end up arrested and in court because of it so it was serious enough at the time. I would have held a grudge too if it was all lies.

Taskforce, I hear what you are saying and if I ended up in the jail because of the lies of another, I, too, would be none too pleased. The ex- pal has told us that the case was dismissed, which was probably for the best, anyway, for all involved. It sounded like a childhood incident that got out of hand, that A.C. took a "tanty" because a person who was not his parent got involved and was trying to push him into a room. It also sounds to me like a storm in a teacup, to be honest with you. There were no mention of the other child being taken to a hospital or a doctor or mention of A.C. being taken to any of those places, either. I am guessing here that there was insufficient evidence in court and that was the reason for it to be thrown out. No disrespect to the woman in the story, but it does appear like "I told you so, I was right" type of reaction. It happened, it was unpleasant, and it caused an end to her friendship with Janette.

 

[kyndigs]

I agree. Selling drugs attracts attention to your door. All sorts of characters buy weed, some good, some bad. However, in my life (a long time smoking cannabis) there are many who are dangerous and I wouldn't want anywhere near my family or even knowing they exist.

I'm not blaming RM, I feel immensely sorry for him. He will have to live with the what-ifs and guilt for the rest of his life and not get to see his daughter grow up.

I was raised in Easterhouse there was a dealer in the next close, the people who used to go up there while all the kids were just outside playing, some kids had to go up that same close to get home while junkies were hitting up in the close, eventually people got sick of it and the dealer got his head kicked in by the young team after a kid accidentally pricked their finger on a needle in the back garden.

 

[Ciana]

Can't blame him. The press (some) did what they normally do and pounced on A's mother when she was in a vulnerable state.

I read an earlier post on here today in this thread that mentioned that he "has gone off with a g/f." So, if that is accurate, then Janette is now on her own.

 

[Ciana]

I was raised in Easterhouse there was a dealer in the next close, the people who used to go up there while all the kids were just outside playing, some kids had to go up that same close to get home while junkies were hitting up in the close, eventually people got sick of it and the dealer got his head kicked in by the young team after a kid accidentally pricked there finger on a needle in the back garden.

Well, kyndigs, I take my hat off to the YT. There was a gang in my scheme, South Nitshill (Glasgow), who looked after the elderly and made sure the young ones were kept on the straight and narrow. They were very well respected in our wee community.

 

[Alyce]

Alesha MacPhail killer's sick Facebook boast after murdering the six-year-old

I wonder where they’ve got that photo from that he’s liked it? His Facebook was deleted ages ago so it wouldn’t still show that he liked it ?

I remember looking at his page, last July, so the journo might have saved it back then, for future use

 

[mrazda71]

mrazda, it's nice to be nice. We are all on here for the same purpose.

How have I Not 'been nice' ?

 

[bronzepurple]

Today AC's mum must be moving out the house because there is a van and they are removing furniture and putting it in the van like they are leaving for good...

 

[Kikixxxx]

Today AC's mum must be moving out the house because there is a van and they are removing furniture and putting it in the van like they are leaving for good...

That’s so sad isn’t it

 

[kyndigs]

That’s so sad isn’t it

Honestly, this is the consequences perpetrators don't think of when they commit crimes, and it will probably be best for her to move away for her own peace, as people talk and even though she is totally innocent she will be forever glared at, I can't even begin to imagine the pain of knowing your child whom you love has committed such horrible acts, she lost her son that day due to his disgusting acts, I have nothing but sympathy for her.

 

[Ciana]

I think assumptions can be made fairly safely by the fact that Rab has admitted selling weed. People buying a bit of weed are not the same kind of people who are buying their desperate fix of heroin or crack.

Either way ... the point being that the person I was responding to said they felt less for Rabs loss than Genies 'because' he was dealing drugs from his house, therefore attracting people buying drugs (this could go round in circles)

Rabs drug dealing is NOT the reason that Aaron knew the family or knew of Alesha.

REPLY;



mrazda, to clarify a point; never, at any time, have I blamed the father for the death of his child. Never. Not once. And if my sympathies are more with Alesha's mother, then that is my concern and not yours. You have your opinion, as do I and each of us are on here for the proper reasons. I would not query why your sympathies lie as they do, that is your right and yours alone. Further to that, as we are all now aware that TM's aunt was/is the friend of J.C. and that A.C. and T.M. were known to each other for a variety of reason, i.e. aunt/mother/school ETC. R may well have known A.C because of those links, or he may simply have known the prisoner because he sold drugs to him. I don't know this and you I am assuming that you don't either. These are all moot points now. Parents have lost their beloved child.

 

[Ciana]

Ciana, do you think Georgina was aware of Rabs drug dealing?

jaci, this is just my opinion, but I think (and hope) not. If there was a custody battle coming up, as mentioned previously, her solicitor could have used that very fact against him.

 

[mrazda71]

@Ciana your reply was written IN your quote so it's not carried forward

If you write a post on a public forum then you can and should expect other people to respond even if it's in a way you don't appreciate.

Edited to add - one might suggest that Genie deserved less sympathy as she allowed her daughter to go and stay with a drug user never mind dealer BUT neither makes any difference.

The only person to blame is Aaron Campbell.

 

[Ruthbullock]

Honestly, this is the consequences perpetrators don't think of when they commit crimes, and it will probably be best for her to move away for her own peace, as people talk and even though she is totally innocent she will be forever glared at, I can't even begin to imagine the pain of knowing your child whom you love has committed such horrible acts, she lost her son that day due to his disgusting acts, I have nothing but sympathy for her.

It’s a shame, she hasn’t been more supported by the islanders. Whilst she raised him- she reported him and held her hands up to it all. She can’t be held personally responsible for his actions, if that thought was followed then Aleshas dad and grandparents are also responsible (which I don’t think at all!) by the fact that they didn’t keep her safe and left keys in the door and allowed their son to deal drugs. Sadly I was close to two different families who have had murders occur, neither family moved away and the community supported them. I hope she’s just moving to be nearer a better support network.

 

[Ciana]

I'm guessing that she had no choice in testifying if she was called as a witness?

There have been witnesses, called to the stand, who suddenly "forget" what they have previously given in a statement. By what has been reported, this lady stuck to her original story.

 

[Ruthbullock]

jaci, this is just my opinion, but I think (and hope) not. If there was a custody battle coming up, as mentioned previously, her solicitor could have used that very fact against him.

JMO- but I think she knew and contested custody. I would imagine he got it based on the fact that he lived with his parents who would be the stable force looking after her. After all she was there to visit with dad, but it was grandad who took her to the party on the main land.

 

[sunshine2019]

It’s a shame, she hasn’t been more supported by the islanders. Whilst she raised him- she reported him and held her hands up to it all. She can’t be held personally responsible for his actions, if that thought was followed then Aleshas dad and grandparents are also responsible (which I don’t think at all!) by the fact that they didn’t keep her safe and left keys in the door and allowed their son to deal drugs. Sadly I was close to two different families who have had murders occur, neither family moved away and the community supported them. I hope she’s just moving to be nearer a better support network.

As far as I am aware the Islands have been supportive. She might want to leave herself because of the bad memories.

 

[Ruthbullock]

JMO- but in some ways they are worse in my experience. People on harder drugs tend to be more self centred and out of it and show complete lack of care or empathy for those around them. Weed is seen as acceptable, and people who smoke it tend to see themselves as perfectly functioning normal people- when the reality is they are only able to function to a degree.

 

[bronzepurple]

As far as I am aware the Islands have been supportive. She might want to leave herself because of the bad memories.

Yes I think this is more likely to be the case. I don't blame her for wanting a new start.

 

[Ciana]

How have I Not 'been nice' ?

Hello, mrazda, it was in reference to you telling jaci off for her typo error. I meant it in a pleasant way to you, I was not having a go, we are all on here for the best of reasons, a very special wee darling girl who met a dreadful end. Best wishes and have a nice day.

 

[Ruthbullock]

Yes I think this is more likely to be the case. I don't blame her for wanting a new start.

I agree, hence my last sentence- hope she is moving to a better support network. But there are people who are selling their stories (or worse giving them away) who are local to make out that she was the most incompetent parent- whilst watching for years as she potentially struggled.