GUILTY UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #7

[tresir2012]

No. Once the appeal is heard i imagine it will be published on the ScotCourt website or the Scottish Judiciary website.

Alesha MacPhail's killer Aaron Campbell granted an appeal against his 27-year sentence

I just found this link. This states that the appeal against sentence was granted after his legal team argued the sentence was too harsh.

 

[Yenriac]

I was just reading about the grounds for John Leatham's sentence appeal. Apparantly he requested an appeal because Paige Doherty's remains were easy to locate. (I think that's mental but there you go)
So based on that i am totally stuck in trying to understand what AC's grounds would be other than his age.

 

[Yenriac]

Alesha MacPhail's killer Aaron Campbell granted an appeal against his 27-year sentence

I just found this link. This states that the appeal against sentence was granted after his legal team argued the sentence was too harsh.

God. Too harsh. He's having a laugh is he not? Too harsh for what? I wonder if they mean too harsh for a minor?

Edit: Too harsh isn't grounds for an appeal, they must provide a reason as to why they think it's too harsh (just spoke to my relative in PF office) the reason(s) provided is/are the grounds.

 

[Kiranerys]

What is a " full and substantial appeal"?

 

[Yenriac]

Duplicate post.

 

[Yenriac]

What is a " full and substantial appeal"?

I have no idea, maybe it means everything put forward will be considered. Or possibly they mean we'll make sure that his sentence is watertight.

 

[Kikixxxx]

Why don’t you think Aaron is appealing his conviction @Eezer Goode ? You know if he’s really innocent and being set up by the police, the court, the judge and the psychologists ? This is his last chance to get the “truth” out there, that he wasn’t really trying to hold back laughter, that he wasn’t really satisfied with the murder and that he didn’t abduct a child From her bed, rape her, murder her and smear his “” on her and then joke about it with his friends the next day? I just can’t think why he could be sitting back and accepting a 27 year Minimum prison sentence for something he didn’t do ?...

 

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[Eve71]

God. Too harsh. He's having a laugh is he not? Too harsh for what? I wonder if they mean too harsh for a minor?

Edit: Too harsh isn't grounds for an appeal, they must provide a reason as to why they think it's too harsh (just spoke to my relative in PF office) the reason(s) provided is/are the grounds.

He’ll play on his age and also the Judge Lord Matthews who is known for giving long sentences.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I just wondered because cannabis use has rocketed all over the UK in the last decade.

Def more widespread than drinking booze in my location, south UK.

 

[Ruthbullock]

He plead guilty though. Didn’t put the family through the ordeal of a trial and didn’t say anything like “I was trying not to laugh during the trial” . The crime AC committed was horrific enough but the aftermath was just as bad. Plus his defence trying to pin the blame on aleshas step mum is unforgivable too.

I wonder if they will look to Jamie bulgers case for time spans

 

[Yenriac]

.

 

[Kiranerys]

I wonder if they will look to Jamie bulgers case for time spans

I dont think so,they were so young when they were locked away and so much work was done to rehabilitate them that it made no sense to send them on to adult prison and undo all the good work(with Thompson at least in hindsight) that had been done.
I think they would have to look at cases where the convict was around the same age,in which case 27 years isnt that excessive

 

[Yenriac]

And further to @Kiranerys reply, that was England. I'm not sure they can use cases in English law as comparison for Scottish sentencing.

 

[tresir2012]

List of youngest killers - Wikipedia

According to this link, other than AC, there only appears to be 8 young killers in the UK and just one of those is in Scotland, Luke Mitchell.

And below is the Websleuths link for that case:

GUILTY - UK - Jodi Jones, 14, Dalkeith, Scotland, 30 June 2003

 

[Edinlass]

List of youngest killers - Wikipedia

According to this link, other than AC, there only appears to be 8 young killers in the UK and just one of those is in Scotland, Luke Mitchell.

And below is the Websleuths link for that case:

GUILTY - UK - Jodi Jones, 14, Dalkeith, Scotland, 30 June 2003

What’s your point?

 

[tresir2012]

What’s your point?

This is the only case that either side will have as a reference or precedent so I'm posting it as a reference. I don't have a point.

The non Scottish ones can also be referenced, but as has been pointed out by others, they are not Scottish Law so may not be relevant.

 

[Edinlass]

This is the only case that either side will have as a reference or precedent so I'm posting it as a reference. I don't have a point.

And Luke Mitchell.

 

[tresir2012]

And Luke Mitchell.

What do you mean? I don't know what you are saying.

 

[Cappuccino]

I wonder if they will look to Jamie bulgers case for time spans

Doubt it, those two were only just over the age of criminal responsibility at the time of their crime, whereas this one is a teenager. Plus there was no rape or house breaking involved there.